Before Steam Deck, for any game that was available on both Steam and Switch, it was always a question whether the portability was worth more than playing on PC with much better performance, mods, and probably for a cheaper price.We've seen similar numbers with PS4 to PS5 adoption. If Nintendo doesn't screw it up, no reason why there won't be similar numbers. As those players age, I can see there being competition from Steam Deck/PSP/Xbox mini once they release. But those are years away.
Fixed. You can now change it.There's no option to change my vote? Oof
You could say the same about the other consoles. If anything there's less reason to upgrade those since you know Nintendo isn't going to waste time pushing people to the new console and not spend years durdling with cross gen games.From the leaks we had so far, Switch 2 seems to be a more powerful Switch, something the majority of the Nintendo buyers clearly don't care about. As a lot of the Switch buyers are parents... I think a lot will scratch their heads at why they should something similar to what their kids already have.
They will only "already have one" if the games they play are still being released on Switch. Once almost all games are Switch 2 only, then they'll need to upgrade.Cause it was different from Wii
This will not be the same difference and it will make an "You already have one" effect that new software will ease only partly
The fuck is this Steam Deck shit? You realize Switch 2 is going to outsell the Deck's LTD in pre-orders, right? It's not even a blip to Nintendo.Before Steam Deck, for any game that was available on both Steam and Switch, it was always a question whether the portability was worth more than playing on PC with much better performance, mods, and probably for a cheaper price.
After I got a Steam Deck a year and a half ago, I literally haven't bought a single 3rd party game for Switch.
There's no doubt in my mind that some subset of gamers won't feel the need for Switch 2 because they have another portable. And another subset who owns both, but buys fewer games on Switch 2 because portability is no longer a unique advantage.
That's true for now, but there are rumors of both Sony and MS working on handheld machines that, if true, are very likely to release during the Switch 2's lifetime. Which is something the current Switch never had to deal with.I'm surprised so many think there's legit competition. Isn't the Steam Deck like the most popular non-Switch handheld and it's sold like what 4-5m units so far? Even the Vita was selling faster.
Calm your tits dude. Nobody is saying that Steam Deck will beat Switch 2. But it will undeniably take SOME of their market. And portable gaming PCs (and the Steam platform) are growing rapidly while the console market is shrinking slightly.The fuck is this Steam Deck shit? You realize Switch 2 is going to outsell the Deck's LTD in pre-orders, right? It's not even a blip to Nintendo.
They will only "already have one" if the games they play are still being released on Switch. Once almost all games are Switch 2 only, then they'll need to upgrade.
I just think it's an incredibly bad bet to think whatever Sony or MS does will matter when it comes to Nintendo. Nintendo is off on their own with a ton of (true) exclusive franchises that are sales juggernauts. Nothing Sony or MS will put out now will rival the run the PSP had and even with the PSP the DS was the 2nd most selling gaming system of all time.That's true for now, but there are rumors of both Sony and MS working on handheld machines that, if true, are very likely to release during the Switch 2's lifetime. Which is something the current Switch never had to deal with.
The fuck is this Steam Deck shit? You realize Switch 2 is going to outsell the Deck's LTD in pre-orders, right? It's not even a blip to Nintendo.
Maybe. But even so I think a handheld that's pushed by Sony/MS has a lot more potential to grab market share than, say, SteamDeck. Even if they "only" sell between 20-40M LTD, those could be potential customers that might have bought a "Switch 2" instead (depending on how similar these supposed devices are).I just think it's an incredibly bad bet to think whatever Sony or MS does will matter when it comes to Nintendo. Nintendo is off on their own with a ton of (true) exclusive franchises that are sales juggernauts. Nothing Sony or MS will put out now will rival the run the PSP had and even with the PSP the DS was the 2nd most selling gaming system of all time.
Im not thinking to those who follow the market but the mass of casual buyers, Curios but not followers of gaming. They were Wii fortune and I think they're a solid base in Switch user basei
I do expect a lot of the smaller titles (remasters, remakes, 2D Kirby etc.) to be cross gen for the first couple of years. But there will also be tentpole releases from first and third parties that will be Switch 2 only.Not to mention that maybe the large installment of Switch could be a problem for same Nintendo, not developing for Switch means a millions of lost sales, maybe a cross gen situation like Sony with PS4/PS5 will be a solution to keep software sales during transition but it will be another obstacle to the transition itself
I voted yes. Nintendo's never screwed up a handheld (well at least since the GBA days).
Fixed for you… Lol, Switch only have 8 years on the market, that's the norm.If they let it sit for 30 years like the PS2, then yeah.
I'm just not seeing it. DS 2nd best selling system of all time when PSP sold 80 million and no handheld from MS or Sony is going to be anywhere close to as successful as the PSP.Maybe. But even so I think a handheld that's pushed by Sony/MS has a lot more potential to grab market share than, say, SteamDeck. Even if they "only" sell between 20-40M LTD, those could be potential customers that might have bought a "Switch 2" instead (depending on how similar these supposed devices are).
It's just one more thing that would make it more difficult to reach 150-160M again.
Oh for sure. I'm just viewing it as a potential obstacle to "reach the success of the Switch".As long as Nintendo is the place to play Nintendo games, they'll be massively successful. Maybe not setting best selling console records in back to back gens but at the very least it'll hit 100 million and likely much more.
True, as always it's about the games.It all depends on the games so for me it's too early to tell.
Either you live under a rock or don't understand how modern SoCs work. The Tegra X1 has 256 shader cores, while the T239 has 2048 CUDA cores. In pure technical theory, the chip in Switch 2 could deliver 4 TFLOPS, compared to the Switch 1's 0.4 TFLOPS, or a 10x increase.Nope.
Switch 2 will offer maybe a 20% increase in performance/graphics over Switch at a 60%+ cost.
Any source for that claim? The switch is a hybrid a lot of people use for mobile play. During the pandemic, with a lot of people working at home, stationary consoles should have done better.Probably not because many will still stick to Switch 1 which still have plenty of life. Also, Covid probably help with the Switch sales.
The nintendo handheld will be cheaper than a Steam Deck or Rog Ally, and will have the benefit of Nintendo exclusives in addition to that. Why by a Rog Ally, when i get the same games on the Nintendo handheld, looking as good and access to Mario, Zelda etc.It will sell shitloads, but i'd be suprised if it reach Switch numbers.
A lot more competition in the handheld space now, and will definitely continue to be.
Quite a few people who was there day 1 with the Switch will probably have moved on to Steam Decks or Rog Allys etc, and might not feel the need a new Nintendo hybrid because of that. Then again.. the power of Nintendo's exclusives is pretty heavy.
I will of course get one for a few of the Nintendo exclusives like Metroid, Mario and Zelda. And I bet many who now actually prefer PC handhelds (like me) will get one on the side because of those titles.
Many gamers have a massive existing Steam library. Plus Steam gamers are usually cheaper and they have some insane sales, as well as the Steam store experience being roughly 1,000,000x more pleasant than the Nintendo eshop ghetto. Plenty of reasons why someone might choose a handheld PC over a Switch 2The nintendo handheld will be cheaper than a Steam Deck or Rog Ally, and will have the benefit of Nintendo exclusives in addition to that. Why by a Rog Ally, when i get the same games on the Nintendo handheld, looking as good and access to Mario, Zelda etc.