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42% of PS5 purchases from Sony's latest record breaking quarter has come from new users. Where do we think these users are coming from?
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Horseganador
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The "this is an xbox" campaign has worked.
Felessan
Member
Rising MAU tells us different story.
Same installbase with rising MAU show that migration is slower this gen, and that's understandable given way too prolongen window of crossgen games. So playstation is grabbing new gamers outside it's ecosystem to close gap
Truthtellers
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Killjoy-NL
Member
With Xbox sales coming to a halt and an uptick in new PSN-users, there will be a very strong correlation between the two.
Schmendrick
Member
There is only one competitor who pretty much officially threw the towel so the answer should be obvious.
Felessan
Member
They do though, consoles still by far the cheapest and convinient way to play games. And as more games appear on playstation specifically targeting these regions, the more people will opt for value for money.
Before games "from Chinese to Chinese" were PC-only and console proposition were "Western/Japan games" those have different culture, views, art style etc. A niche staff for foreign lovers (like anime in the west and western stuff in Japan). Now China got a lot of their own games on consoles, both mp and SP, so now it's a proper value proposition for locals.
PS5 were selling out in China on Wukong launch.
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Angry_Megalodon
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Just google it.
www.zleague.gg
PS5 Sold Out in China: Black Myth: Wukong Fuels Frenzy
Black Myth: Wukong ignites PS5 sales frenzy in China, leaving consoles sold out. Learn how this game is impacting the console wars. Read more!
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
100% all three.
Astray
Member
Because these guys are very likely to have already been users.
jm89
Member
Are you sure didn't lose your PS4 psn account and had to create a new one?
That's the new narrative.
Didn't knew about that, always thought China was PCland and India mobileland so consoles, sure have an audience, but not a big one like in US/EU/JP
GHG
Gold Member
A lot of Xbox users don't have substantial digital libraries due to gamepass. That makes it very easy for people to move on.
They've played themselves in more way than one.
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RedC
Member
I haven't owned a Playstation since PS2.Are you sure didn't lose your PS4 psn account and had to create a new one?
That's the new narrative.
That changed when I got PS5 Pro and PSVR2.
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I would think the bulk of these has come from China and Korea.
We've seen a big push from Sony investing into developers from these places in the last few years.
Looks like it's starting to pay off.
As countries such as India become more affluent I expect to see similar growth in the next few years.
I think only a small percentage would of come from Xbox only gamers.
We've seen a big push from Sony investing into developers from these places in the last few years.
Looks like it's starting to pay off.
As countries such as India become more affluent I expect to see similar growth in the next few years.
I think only a small percentage would of come from Xbox only gamers.
Unknown?
Member
Most PC gamers have weaker specs and upgrading would require new motherboard. Just too expensive.PC
Mahavastu
Member
I voted for "emerging markets"
There are not enough ex-Xbox users to explain 42%.
Not sure, how many kids still get consoles, but for Christmas this might be. On the other hand we have the PS5 Pro, so probably many base PS5 are being handled down to other users, maybe kids. Yes, together with Christmas the Kids option is definitely possible
But for china the highly successful Black Wukong game might be a reason. It is a country with many citizens, where Playstation was not very strong before.
There are not enough ex-Xbox users to explain 42%.
Not sure, how many kids still get consoles, but for Christmas this might be. On the other hand we have the PS5 Pro, so probably many base PS5 are being handled down to other users, maybe kids. Yes, together with Christmas the Kids option is definitely possible
But for china the highly successful Black Wukong game might be a reason. It is a country with many citizens, where Playstation was not very strong before.
iHaunter
Member
And as Xbox games are now coming to PS5 more and more. Seems like Microsoft are waving the console white flag at this point.
phant0m
Member
Ngl this is probably a big contributor.
Used to be you could build a $600-800 mid-tier PC that would thrash the $400 console.
Now you gotta spend that on the GPU alone and half the PC ports run like dogshit
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Where is the pool option for "banned accounts creating a new one"??
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Nowhere because it’d be dumb.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
You say people can't be banned anymore and create a new account??
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
There's simply no way you can reconcile the absolutely historically terrible quarter that Microsoft had and the peak PS5 quarter and not put two and two together that it's Xbox fans from Xbox One deciding to buy a PS5 instead of an XBS.
Of course some of it is new generation of kids and people buying games like Astro Bot or the success of Black Myth Wukong in China, but those wouldn't have been as predominant in Q3 as what we just witnessed.
Despite no Spider-Man 2 level game, PS5 is up over last year's Q3... stop and think about that.
Of course some of it is new generation of kids and people buying games like Astro Bot or the success of Black Myth Wukong in China, but those wouldn't have been as predominant in Q3 as what we just witnessed.
Despite no Spider-Man 2 level game, PS5 is up over last year's Q3... stop and think about that.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I’m saying it wouldn’t explain the 42% uptick unless there was an event where Sony mass-banned users and they all came back within the same time frame.
RetroGamingUK
Member
That’s the real take away, sales momentum is speeding up.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
No one is saying that would be the only factor. Like people said here already, can be several factors.
Edit: plus
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Gorgon
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Are you sure didn't lose your PS4 psn account and had to create a new one?
That's the new narrative.
I'm one of those.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
Go check out Amazon Japan best selling video games...
Both PS5 Monster Hunter bundles are #2 and #3 respectively behind only Monster Hunter Wild...
3rd party horii controller #4
Elden Ring Nightrein #6
Non bundled PS5 disc drive #10
PS5 Pro #14
don't want to look too much into Amazon charting because it can be misleading, but I think we have to keep an eye on Monster Hunter's performance in Japan this month and what impact it'll have on PS5.
I've mentioned it's the largest PS5 release in region to date. Then you have Ghost of Yotei, GTA6, and Onimusha 2 all dropping within the next 22 months...
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
?
Steam Hits An All-Time Record Of 38.3 Million PC Players, Breaking All Previous Records
Steam has hit its highest-ever record of concurrent users online on the platform, exceeding 38 million in total.
Steam peak concurrent players 2023 | Statista
In January 2023, gaming platform and digital storefront Steam reported 33 million peak concurrent players, up from 30 million peak concurrent players in the preceding year.
www.statista.com
Steam hit 38.3 million peak concurrent players in 2024, compared to 24.8M in 2020 and 8.4M in 2015.
Meanwhile PS5… almost caught up to PS4 launch aligned.
So yeah don’t worry, looks like PC is getting plenty of growth, whereas PS5 is nearly bringing in enough users to remain stable.
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Some takes here are so hot that they deserved to be printed and burned.?
Steam Hits An All-Time Record Of 38.3 Million PC Players, Breaking All Previous Records
Steam has hit its highest-ever record of concurrent users online on the platform, exceeding 38 million in total.wccftech.com
Steam hit 38.3 million peak concurrent players in 2024, compared to 24.8M in 2020 and 8.4M in 2015.
Meanwhile PS5… almost caught up to PS4 launch aligned.
So yeah don’t worry, looks like PC is getting plenty of growth, whereas PS5 is nearly bringing in enough users to remain stable.
RetroGamingUK
Member
At the end of the generation and we get the best selling games list
GTA 6 will be #1 in western countries
Monster Hunter Rise will be #1 in Japan
PS5 is getting 2 games this year that will shift a huge amount of units
Hardware sales will top 2024
Giallo Corsa
Member
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Some console warriors don't understand the concept of having more than 1 gaming machine too.?
Steam Hits An All-Time Record Of 38.3 Million PC Players, Breaking All Previous Records
Steam has hit its highest-ever record of concurrent users online on the platform, exceeding 38 million in total.
Steam peak concurrent players 2023 | Statista
In January 2023, gaming platform and digital storefront Steam reported 33 million peak concurrent players, up from 30 million peak concurrent players in the preceding year.
Steam hit 38.3 million peak concurrent players in 2024, compared to 24.8M in 2020 and 8.4M in 2015.
Meanwhile PS5… almost caught up to PS4 launch aligned.
So yeah don’t worry, looks like PC is getting plenty of growth, whereas PS5 is nearly bringing in enough users to remain stable.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
what do you think the poll results are?
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Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Why would Xbox owners 'abandon ship' when (other than Astrobot) PS5 hasn't had any exclusive games? In fact, Indy came out and a slew of other new games are coming out between February and May (so far) and most of those are at least 6 months exclusivity. Only Doom seems to be day one on PS5.
Most of these new users are likely newer markets.
If they are Xbox users. most adults have the money to buy more than one console you know!!
Most of these new users are likely newer markets.
If they are Xbox users. most adults have the money to buy more than one console you know!!
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jm89
Member
Comparing consoles sales to concurrent player numbers.?
Steam Hits An All-Time Record Of 38.3 Million PC Players, Breaking All Previous Records
Steam has hit its highest-ever record of concurrent users online on the platform, exceeding 38 million in total.
Steam peak concurrent players 2023 | Statista
In January 2023, gaming platform and digital storefront Steam reported 33 million peak concurrent players, up from 30 million peak concurrent players in the preceding year.
Steam hit 38.3 million peak concurrent players in 2024, compared to 24.8M in 2020 and 8.4M in 2015.
Meanwhile PS5… almost caught up to PS4 launch aligned.
So yeah don’t worry, looks like PC is getting plenty of growth, whereas PS5 is nearly bringing in enough users to remain stable.
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Saber
Member
Probably the late to the party movers from PS4 to PS5.
I'm one of them. This might shock you, but PS5 price isn't exactly fair in other countries. My country the price is absurd, so the only thing people can do is either buy in another country or wait for a cheaper price, like I did.
I'm one of them. This might shock you, but PS5 price isn't exactly fair in other countries. My country the price is absurd, so the only thing people can do is either buy in another country or wait for a cheaper price, like I did.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Anyway to answer the question, just anecdotally I know a few dads who didn’t own a PS4, but got a PS5 to play with their kids. I’m guessing there is a decent amount of growth there.
I’m not directly comparing the sales of one platform vs concurrent users on the other, I’m using that as a way to gauge the relative growth of PC gaming vs PlayStation gaming over time. If you know of a better way than looking at Steam player counts, please share it.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Did you create a new PSN account??
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