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[LordOfLore]

He lost. That's canon. Honestly I never got how with his power gone how he even lasted as long as he did.

I'm still waiting for a modern comic to confirm Quik Bunny/Superman happened in New 52 timeline, and had repercussions to the DC universe.

Superman has fought and trained with some of the best fighters in the universe. He has picked up a few tricks over the years.

 

[CoolestSpot]

Superman has fought and trained with some of the best fighters in the universe. He has picked up a few tricks over the years.

Yeah, I always forget this, since he starts off rather rough as a fighter just using his powers thanks to being just a Kanas farming boy.

 

[Slayven]

Folks more Jedi and Sith speed

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I'd lean heavily towards "yes" with this

I'd lean towards no. It appears to be a natural force like gravity.

 

[CoolestSpot]

LOL no....LOL just no.

I mean even with his own training and fighting style, there are a bunch of B.S. force powers that could overwhelm him. I think his Spidey sense would give him an edge for only so long before being beaten.

 

[MisterHero]

The concept of Brainiac in Star Wars is kind of unique. Star Wars doesn't really have warmongering AIs does it?

There's droid bounty hunters, droid armies, but not a sentient Death Star!

 

[Kevinroc]

Red kryptonite removes Superman's inhibitions, so if that were the case, Vader would be even more fucked, as not only would it fail to cut Supes, it would also cause him to stop holding back.

Red kryptonite does random crap. Not sure why the TV shows just say it removes a Kryptonian's inhibitions beyond not wanting to pay to give Superman or Supergirl a giant ant head or something.

 

[LordOfLore]

The concept of Brainiac in Star Wars is kind of unique. Star Wars doesn't really have warmongering AIs does it?

There's droid bounty hunters, droid armies, but not a sentient Death Star!

IG-88 took control of the second Death Star IIRC. Sadly it was seconds before the shot that destroyed it was fired.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

The new canon Thrawn novel establishes that the Chiss Ascendancy knew of some incredible threat hidden in the Unknown Regions during the time of the fall of the Republic and the age of the Empire.

The Chiss Ascendancy is also implied to be on par, if not stronger, than the Empire at its height.

What if the threat was Darkseid?

 

[CoolestSpot]

IG-88 took control of the second Death Star IIRC. Sadly it was seconds before the shot that destroyed it was fired.

He still got to hit the empire with the rotating door for awhile before then.

 

[SpaceWolf]

The new canon Tarkin novel establishes that the Chiss Ascendancy knew of some incredible threat hidden in the Unknown Regions during the time of the fall of the Republic and the age of the Empire.

The Chiss Ascendancy is also implied to be on par, if not stronger, than the Empire at its height.

What if the threat was Darkseid?

What if a Darkseid/First Order alliance led to a new Death Star that fired Omega Beams?

 

[Sephzilla]

The new canon Tarkin novel establishes that the Chiss Ascendancy knew of some incredible threat hidden in the Unknown Regions during the time of the fall of the Republic and the age of the Empire.

The Chiss Ascendancy is also implied to be on par, if not stronger, than the Empire at its height.

What if the threat was Darkseid?

that would be awesome

Spoiler

isnt that threat supposed to be Snoke?

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

What if a Darkseid/First Order alliance led to a new Death Star that fired Omega Beams?

that would be awesome

Spoiler

isnt that threat supposed to be Snoke?

I messed up, it was the Thrawn novel, not Tarkin.


Anyway, I think 3 Death Stars is enough.


And

Spoiler

we don't know yet. They wanted the aid of the Empire to defeat it, so I doubt it.

 

[Slayven]

I mean even with his own training and fighting style, there are a bunch of B.S. force powers that could overwhelm him. I think his Spidey sense would give him an edge for only so long before being beaten.

Like what?

Force lightening?
Dude fights electro

Force push/pull?
Jean grey couldn't tag him

Force mind tricks?
His will is too strong

 

[Sephzilla]

Spidey still has to breathe though. A dark side user would just force choke his ass and then throw him out an airlock

 

[CoolestSpot]

Okay, I'm really considering this Spiderman vs Force User debate. I could be convinced otherwise, considering most of Spiderman's own foes would be proper training to take on a Force user if not the vast Marvel universe, plus his own ridiculously enhanced stats and quick thinking.

But I don't know, all the feats I remember of Force users can get out there. Then again, I don't even remember what's canon and what isn't, because writers keep making old things canon again...

I'll be over here debating it with myself

 

[Wag]

Well Radien's a god so his lightening will be mystical, and we know mystic lightening fucks with superman

Is the force a supernatural force?

I guess The Force can be taken one of two ways:

In 4/5/6 the force was all mystical, in the prequels they tried to "science" it up by quantifying it with "midichlorians". But now we're back to The Force being all mystical and shit again.

So take your pick. 🤣

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Jedis could probably defeat the Netflix Defenders though. And mayyyyybe the pre-Morrison Justice League.

 

[CoolestSpot]

Spidey still has to breathe though. A dark side user would just force choke his ass and then throw him out an airlock

Also, they'd just have to use "Center of Being" and they could get Spidey no matter how he attacks.

Center of Being was a stance used in lightsaber combat. It could also be used for meditation. The stance was used by members of the old Jedi Order. Users of this stance would hold the lightsaber horizontally, with the lightsaber hilt just below the chin. The meditative stance would find use in combination with more passive and defensive forms. One who fell deeply into this style could almost unconsciously defend from even the most flowing random attacks and feints.

Also, for strong enough Force users trained in it, even will cannot stop telepathy. They're on the same level of Professor Xavier at a certain point, and he wiped Spidey's mind with ease before. But I was right, they did trim down the power list quite a bit for Force users. Now they only have these.

Alchaka
Art of Movement
Breath control
Center of Being
Detoxify Poison
Flashburn
Force Body
Force Enlightenment
Force ghost
Force healing[1]
Force speed
Force stealth (Also known as Force Concealment)
Hibernation trance
Morichro
Tapas
Cloak of Shadow
Force Listening
Force Smell
Force meld
Force sense
Precognition
Battle Precognition
Shatterpoint
Psychometry
Force empathy
Farsight
Force sight
Force vision
Telepathy
Comprehend Speech
Shadow Vision
Alter Damage
Alter Image
Alter Environment
Animal friendship
Battle meditation
Combustion
Crucitorn
Dark transfer
Deadly Sight
Dopplegänger
Drain Knowledge
Droid Disable
Electric Judgment
Force bellow
Force blinding
Force cloak
Force confusion
Force Defend
Force deflection
Force Destruction
Force drain
Force fear
Force horror
Force insanity
Force-flash
Force flight
Force Illusion
Force Jump
Force Light
Force lightning (Organic limbs & extremities required)
Chain lightning
Force shock
Force storm (lightning)
Wall of light
Force Orb
Force persuasion
Force projection
Force Pull/Push
Force scream
Force Stun
Force Stasis
Force Stasis Field
Force Slow
Force Affliction
Force Plague
Force storm (wormhole)
Force Subjugate
Force suppression
Force Breach
Force Throw
Force travel
Force Wave
Force Repulse
Force weapon
Force Whirlwind
Force Whisper
Pyrokinesis
Force wound
Force choke
Force grip
Force crush
Kinetite
Levitation
Malacia
Mechu-deru
Midi-chlorian manipulation
Mind control
Mind trick (Also known as Affect Mind)
Mind probe
Protection bubble
Plant Surge
Revitalize
Sever Force
Sith alchemy
Spear of midnight black
Spirit Transference
Telekinesis
Teleportation
Torture by Chagrin
Thought bomb
Revelation
Dampen Presence
Conceal Other
Cleanse Mind

 

[Wag]

Superman is very strong willed, so the Jedi/Force mind tricks wouldn't work on him.

 

[Sanjuro]

Yodaman v Superman

 

[Sephzilla]

WHO DA MAN?

YODA MAN!

 

[Slayven]

Jedis could probably defeat the Netflix Defenders though. And mayyyyybe the pre-Morrison Justice League.

Nuklon, Obsidian, Metamorpho, and Ice Maiden?

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Nuklon, Obsidian, Metamorpho, and Ice Maiden?

Yeah, that's who I meant. But also basically any post JLI incarnation that didn't have the Martian Manhunter or any member of the trinity. Although I guess Metamorpho and Obsidian are fairly powerful. Upon reflection, let's just say that force users could probably defeat Ted Kord.

 

[Slayven]

Yeah, that's who I meant. But also basically any post JLI incarnation that didn't have the Martian Manhunter or any member of the trinity. Although I guess Metamorpho and Obsidian are fairly powerful. Upon reflection, let's just say that force users could probably defeat Ted Kord.

LOL that is the only Blue Beetle they could take. Dan Garrett was jacked as hell.

 

[Seesaw15]

Superman's a bitch to magic so just use some force lightning. My only point of reference is the JL cartoon where the writers had to knock out Superman and Martian Man Hunter every episode so the plot could happen.

 

[HStallion]

The new canon Thrawn novel establishes that the Chiss Ascendancy knew of some incredible threat hidden in the Unknown Regions during the time of the fall of the Republic and the age of the Empire.

The Chiss Ascendancy is also implied to be on par, if not stronger, than the Empire at its height.

What if the threat was Darkseid?

I predict Yuuzan Vong 2.0

 

[Slayven]

I predict Yuuzan Vong 2.0

CRAWLING IN MY SKIN MY WOUNDS WILL NEVER HEAL!!!

Spoiler

Cause they were so mean they got kicked out of the force

 

[Soapbox Killer]

Superman is very strong willed, so the Jedi/Force mind tricks wouldn't work on him.

Nah, Obi-Wan from Sith beats Superman. Strong willed or not.

 

[Chmpocalypse]

Plot twist: Clark discovers that Krypton was destroyed by the Death Star.

Great twist for a terrible idea.

 

[Dj Convoy]

Two tastes that would have not gone well together.

 

[CoolestSpot]

I predict Yuuzan Vong 2.0

Oh god, I hope not. One of my disliked aspects of old EU.

And old JLI they could take Booster Gold, and Ted Kord, and uh...

That might be it.

 

[HStallion]

Oh god, I hope not. One of my disliked aspects of old EU.

And old JLI they could take Booster Gold, and Ted Kord, and uh...

That might be it.

The idea behind them was really cool since its basically the Tyranids from Warhammer 40K but the entire implementation... not so much.

 

[Lastgengamer]

Superman is very strong willed, so the Jedi/Force mind tricks wouldn't work on him.

Yeah and Supes could just speed blitz them, not a fair fight. Could Vader/Anakin even survive a punch from an under-powered Superman like the one on that cover? I doubt it.

 

[bengraven]

Never cross over Star Wars. Ever.

 

[itwasTuesday]

How powerful the Porg race is, we do not yet know. hrmm.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

i know that if batman was in this comic the writers would have made him force sensitive

 

[HStallion]

i know that if batman was in this comic the writers would have made him force sensitive

He would have gone through Jedi training but outdid every other person to ever attempt it because he's the god damned Batman.

 

[Lastgengamer]

i know that if batman was in this comic the writers would have made him force sensitive

Ever seen this? Batman vs Darth Vader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3tC8TPh9oQ

Or Spider-Man vs Darth Mual

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q2uzIv4nhg&pbjreload=10

 

[Slayven]

He would have gone through Jedi training but outdid every other person to ever attempt it because he's the god damned Batman.

Then removed the force from himself. Dude hates super powers

 

[Fancyarcher]

That could have been cool. Just imagine Superman with a lightsaber or something. Now the closest we've even gotten to a Superman / Star Wars is a Superfriends episode or something, lol.

It was almost the other way around at one point.

I'm glad they didn't, even went Marvel went under. We wouldn't have gotten some great comics or even the MCU, which I'm a big fan of.

 

[HStallion]

A preview of a Jedi Vs Superman

 

[ferr]

I mean even with his own training and fighting style, there are a bunch of B.S. force powers that could overwhelm him. I think his Spidey sense would give him an edge for only so long before being beaten.

spidey sense vs jedi intuition, seems like an even battlefield there

 

[Malreyn]

Whats superman's track record against street level psychic powers?

But isn't the force "magic"?

 

[ferr]

But isn't the force "magic"?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShrugOfGod

 

[Slayven]

spidey sense vs jedi intuition, seems like an even battlefield there

Except Spidey sense has a better track record, and Spidey is way faster than any jedi. Like Rock Lee vs Sasuke. Sasuke could see Rock coming, but couldn't do anything about it

 

[Jean Valjean]

That could have been cool. Just imagine Superman with a lightsaber or something.

 

[Slayven]

That could have been cool. Just imagine Superman with a lightsaber or something. Now the closest we've even gotten to a Superman / Star Wars is a Superfriends episode or something, lol.

Why would Superman downgrade?

 

[Szu]

In the end, Batman is going to have to save Superman.

 

[CoolestSpot]

Why would Superman downgrade?

Watch him slay Dr.Manhattan with it.

(I'd like to see him try)