Hm....you're using the lever at the BOTTOM of the elevator, right?
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Hm....you're using the lever at the BOTTOM of the elevator, right?
It is I believe so long as youre wearing the powder keg clothes, or so I thought.
The_eJoker
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Yes, at the bottom. This is the elevator that takes you back to a room with some antidotes and is a shortcut to the first lamp in Forbidden Woods.
RetroGameAudio
Neo Member
Hmm, those levers should become operable once an elevator has been triggered at least once, and if it's not in your current location (it's at the top when you're at the bottom, etc).
But you're saying, you sent the elevator up, you can't use the lever to bring it back down, and you can't approach it from the top side since you never opened the shortcut from up there?
I've never heard of this happening to anyone before, but if that's all true, then you have lost the ability to use the shortcut.
If you're able to use the PS4 share feature to get video of the lever not working and the shortcut still being locked from the top side, it could serve as a good PSA / warning to the community.Red Liquorice
Member
You know there are two elevators there - one inside tha building, and one just on the other side of the bridge with the snake dude on it. Are you sure you're trying the right elevator?
Once you send an elevator up it's operational - but if you died before you reached the top, then you didn't open the shortcut door right outside the lamp, in which case you still have to go around to pull the lever to get the elevator down to ride it back up and open the door.
There is a little shortcut in that dead end where the crows and crystal lizard are, you can jump up through the geometry on the very left of the rock surface at the end and cut most of the area, it comes out in the houses just before the guy with the cannon.
Once you send an elevator up it's operational - but if you died before you reached the top, then you didn't open the shortcut door right outside the lamp, in which case you still have to go around to pull the lever to get the elevator down to ride it back up and open the door.
There is a little shortcut in that dead end where the crows and crystal lizard are, you can jump up through the geometry on the very left of the rock surface at the end and cut most of the area, it comes out in the houses just before the guy with the cannon.
The_eJoker
Member
Hmm, those levers should become operable once an elevator has been triggered at least once, and if it's not in your current location (it's at the top when you're at the bottom, etc).
But you're saying, you sent the elevator up, you can't use the lever to bring it back down, and you can't approach it from the top side since you never opened the shortcut from up there?
I've never heard of this happening to anyone before, but if that's all true, then you have lost the ability to use the shortcut.
Exactly. I stepped on the elevator, but for some reason i decided to do a rolo (oh, the regret...) and the elevador went up without me. There's a lever on the right side, but it's not working.
I'll try to make a vídeo about it.
Orochinagis
Member
Have you tried restarting the game or warping out to other area? - Technical support Hunter service
Orochinagis
Member
Use Valtr, he tanks Ludwing enough for second phase with ease but required to equip the League rune,
Anyway look at his sword, if the sword shines he is ready for its special attack, if the sword pales ludwig is gonna charge it with an AoE charge atack
Hmm I'll have to check where to getthe League rune. I just soloed Ludwig, I'm so proud of myself
Is there a cut off point to when the DLC is not accessible ? I'd like to complete it on my first playthrough but the bosses are quite a step up I'm having trouble with Laurence now. I guess I'll push farther in the main game and get back to the DLC later.Hmm I'll have to check where to getthe League rune. I just soloed Ludwig, I'm so proud of myself
The only cutoff point to accessing the DLC is finishing the main game.
Orochinagis
Member
Hmm I'll have to check where to getthe League rune. I just soloed Ludwig, I'm so proud of myself
Finishing the main game sends you inmediately to NG+, reseting your DLC progress. So be careful when you reach Mensis because thats the last area of the main game
The_eJoker
Member
I tried both things, and somehow the Lever is working now.
Don't know what happened, maybe the game just needed a reset...
Anyway, Thanks!
Before I bump my LTTP thread again, I ask here:
I beat Vicar Amalia. I read (shame on me) that I now shall interact with the altar to change the state of the world. Do I have to do this to unlock certain areas or can I discover the areas that are to the right and left first?
When does the DLC unlock and what would be a good level for it? I'm currently on a level between 30 and 40.
And does it pay of to discover that area where the guy with the sack brings one if he kills one?
And most important of all: What is a good attire that looks cool with the Yharghul hood I found?
I beat Vicar Amalia. I read (shame on me) that I now shall interact with the altar to change the state of the world. Do I have to do this to unlock certain areas or can I discover the areas that are to the right and left first?
When does the DLC unlock and what would be a good level for it? I'm currently on a level between 30 and 40.
And does it pay of to discover that area where the guy with the sack brings one if he kills one?
And most important of all: What is a good attire that looks cool with the Yharghul hood I found?
Orochinagis
Member
After certain actions (one is defeating Amelia) the time starts to move to sunset to nightime ending into a full moon, Some NPCs starts to appears, others move, others no longer appear and there are some specific sidequest that could end abruply if you didnt explore well
DLC unlock right after Amelia, the unknown creature outside Oedon ward sends you to the dlc.
Yes, you can find an optional boss which leads to a shortcut, a good armor set, an arcane weapon and dead, lots of dead.
The Yahargul armor =)
Red Liquorice
Member
Yes you have to touch the skull in order to a) progress the game, b) access the DLC. DLC is end game level areas, you can go there now but it will be very tough, I would recommend waiting until you have at least a+8 weapon if not +10.
The paths either side of Amelia are optional but especially right (from Amelia's boos room) is important because of a) the item gained after boss and b) another optional area. tbh it's better imo to do those before Amelia, but it doesn't really make a difference, I just do them for the upgrade materials pre-Amelia. The otherside opens up later but you can still do a loot run/have a peak now.
Yes it pays to be kidnapped by the sack guys and this area (as it is now) has a time limit on it (you have a couple of main quest bosses to go first) so again do it sooner rather than later - it has some nice loot, but the boss can be left for later if you find it tough as it will still be there when you return to that area later on (it will make sense when it happens).
As for Fashion Souls, no idea - I have my favourites and that's all I know!
edit - beaten because slow typing!
Yes you have to touch the skull in order to a) progress the game, b) access the DLC. DLC is end game level areas, you can go there now but it will be very tough, I would recommend waiting until you have at least a+8 weapon if not +10.
The paths either side of Amelia are optional but especially right (from Amelia's boos room) is important because of a) the item gained after boss and b) another optional area. tbh it's better imo to do those before Amelia, but it doesn't really make a difference, I just do them for the upgrade materials pre-Amelia. The otherside opens up later but you can still do a loot run/have a peak now.
Yes it pays to be kidnapped by the sack guys and this area (as it is now) has a time limit on it (you have a couple of main quest bosses to go first) so again do it sooner rather than later - it has some nice loot, but the boss can be left for later if you find it tough as it will still be there when you return to that area later on (it will make sense when it happens).
As for Fashion Souls, no idea - I have my favourites and that's all I know!
edit - beaten because slow typing!
Thanks!
So I should go through Yhargul or whatever it's called and the two areas besides the cathedral before I interact with the altar in the boss room?
Orochinagis
Member
The altar just gives you a key for new areas, you are already on nighttime which is the most optional time to find the Survivors and some secret sidequests.
I think you are right, the cutscene triggers the nightime
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
I thought interacting with the skull changes the time to night, not defeating Amelia.
Albino_Yeti
Member
Finally got the platinum trophy tonight. Gimme that platinum theme!
Also went back and did a speed run of the Hunter's Nightmare to get the remaining weapons I didn't have, so that I could get all the trophies for the dlc too lol. I don't know why arbitrary percentages mean so much to me, but it was annoying having the platinum and not seeing a 100% trophy percentage due to the dlc.
And with that, I put Bloodborne to rest for now. I'm sure I'll come back at some point and play through it again, but it's time to move on to other games that I haven't beaten 3 times yet lol.
Best PS4 game for sure tho.
Also went back and did a speed run of the Hunter's Nightmare to get the remaining weapons I didn't have, so that I could get all the trophies for the dlc too lol. I don't know why arbitrary percentages mean so much to me, but it was annoying having the platinum and not seeing a 100% trophy percentage due to the dlc.
And with that, I put Bloodborne to rest for now. I'm sure I'll come back at some point and play through it again, but it's time to move on to other games that I haven't beaten 3 times yet lol.
Best PS4 game for sure tho.
The_eJoker
Member
Guys, I've just killed
and It seems that the game doesn't let me go back to the Cathedral. Is there a way that I fight
later or I'll have to start the game again?
Rom
Hemwick witch
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
You can. Just warp to the Cathedral Ward instead. The Grand Cathedral is not warpable because... reasons....
near
Gold Member
So picked this up a week ago and pretty much powered through the game in just under 50hours, what an incredible experience. The level designs are unbelievably good, this game mindfucked me on so many different occasions specifically with discovering short-cuts and hidden pathways. Oh and I also didn't get the memo that this game was pretty dark in disturbing ways - like there are some seriously gruesome content within the lore found in this game which in many ways is a lot darker than most recent horror games I've played.
I believe I've beat all the bosses in the game with the exception of bosses found in chalice dungeons. So I'm currently in two minds whether I should pursue the DLC content now or work my way through the chalice dungeons.
Also how do I start the DLC content because I thought I'd have to go to a specific location to trigger it but it seems all area's I unlocked aren't showing up so I'm assuming if I want to continue with my character I'd have to unlock everything again?
I believe I've beat all the bosses in the game with the exception of bosses found in chalice dungeons. So I'm currently in two minds whether I should pursue the DLC content now or work my way through the chalice dungeons.
Also how do I start the DLC content because I thought I'd have to go to a specific location to trigger it but it seems all area's I unlocked aren't showing up so I'm assuming if I want to continue with my character I'd have to unlock everything again?
The_eJoker
Member
You can. Just warp to the Cathedral Ward instead. The Grand Cathedral is not warpable because... reasons....
Thanks for the advice, man!
Jimnymebob
Member
Glad to hear you enjoyed it, it's an awesome game.
I'm terms of bosses, there are a few that are optional, including one in a hidden location: C
ainhurst
astle
the upper Cathedral
Are you in NG+ now? Either way, the DLC is accessed after Vicar Amelia (you pick up an item outside the shed in Hunters Dream, near the doll), and from the lantern at Oedon Chapel, go
through the door on the left, and then an Amygdala will grab you near the fence.
I'm not sure if you need to beat Amelia before you access it on NG+, but you need to be in that area at least.
near
Gold Member
It really is an amazing game. I probably should have given Dark Souls more of a chance when I first tried that game because I literally gave up within the first 30mins. I really wanted to give this a try and forced myself through the brutality of quick and unforgiving deaths - I've never felt so rewarded after progressing this far with any game.
Yeah I'm in NG+ now, I fortunately backed up my save before the final boss
that doll let me know who was waiting for me out back lol.
I found the Hunter's Nightmare, but I think it would've been inconvenient if I didn't have my back up save. Do you think I should bother with the chalice dungeon stuff?
Jimnymebob
Member
If your save is backed up before NG+, I'd just go to Hunter's Nightmare from there. The DLC is hard enough as it is, and I've heard it gets absolutely brutal on NG+ and beyond.
I didn't really bother with the Chalice Dungeons. There are some new bosses in there, and you need to get to a certain boss to get a trophy, if you're going for the Platinum.
In terms of missing bosses, did you get 3 of the third of umbilical cord items?
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
No prob. Make sure you do go visit the Grand Cathedral to see what's going on.
near
Gold Member
That's essentially what I've decided to do, just going to complete the DLC without using my finished game save. Which is quite stupid but I don't want to have to go from the beginning again at least with the same character build, I'd rather start again from scratch if I'm going to have to do that. There's another key boss in the dungeons? Not really bothered about the trophies in it mostly for the lore, but having said that I'm like 3 trophies away from platinum.
Didn't know what to do with them third eye things but after I defeated
Gehrman
refuse ending.
a third ending
two boss fights in a row is clearly the true ending lol
Orochinagis
Member
That's essentially what I've decided to do, just going to complete the DLC without using my finished game save. Which is quite stupid but I don't want to have to go from the beginning again at least with the same character build, I'd rather start again from scratch if I'm going to have to do that. There's another key boss in the dungeons? Not really bothered about the trophies in it mostly for the lore, but having said that I'm like 3 trophies away from platinum.
Didn't know what to do with them third eye things but after I defeatedI loaded up my save again and did theGehrmanFound out via youtube there wasrefuse ending.and did it all againa third endingtwo boss fights in a row is clearly the true ending lol
There is no real true ending. the third umbilical chords and the sunrise ending are the most posible outcomes
Orochinagis
Member
Heh, I managed to get a lot of gold coins so told Gehrman goodbye for the forced work.
Metalingus5150
Member
Apparently Sanadsk has been datamining the game and will post a video soon.
Edit: Here it is.
Edit: Here it is.
Orochinagis
Member
Surprised there is no Amelia assets
Red Liquorice
Member
You can still fight Paarl, he is in the exact same place in Yahgul as before.
Nightmare of Mensis is the very final area (not including the DLC). Frontier is an optional area that can be accessed a lot earlier in the game, so finding it at the same time as Mensis you might find it very easy.
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Orochinagis
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Jimnymebob
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Opus Angelorum
Member
Fuck Ludwig.
Traded the game in, really knocked the shine of it for me.
Traded the game in, really knocked the shine of it for me.
what happened with Valtr?? Didn't have the rune that make him appear?
Oh cool. So the consensus seems to be, tackle the DLC before this boss. yes?
Red Liquorice
Member
There might be a snippet of dialogue with the doll you miss if you do it after, other than that it doesn't make a difference.
The big thing about the DLC is to do it before the final main game boss, as defeating that boss immediately throws you in to NG+
RuinerPrime
Member
Amazon shipped my copy of the Bloodborne art book. Glad it came to the US finally. It'll be here Wednesday.