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Silent Hill 2:

• For SH2 in Europe: 78% of sales are on PS5 and 22% on PC.
• SH2 easily outperformed Calisto Protocol and AW2, but the Dead Space remake did a little better than the SH2 remake in Europe.
• Broadly speaking, SH2 sold 1 million worldwide first, so that's great.

Other sales tidbits:

• Every new game last week did well.
• Metaphor had a really decent launch; across Europe, it's actually pretty close to what DD2 did and is ahead of other JRPGs like Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth and P3R, but it is not as big as what P5R did.
• Undisputed is the fourth biggest sports game launch in Europe this year; worldwide, it's probably ahead of F1.
• The game that did extremely well is Sparking Zero; it was a huge hit across Europe (GSD) launch sales are up 140% compared to the fastest-selling Dragon Ball game, which was FighterZ

Thanks Smitch from the purple forum for the sales summary.

 

[Flabagast]

I think SH2 will have more legs than Dead Space, but still those early numbers are quite good

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

As expected from the $50K income household peasants

 

[Sooner]

I'm still in shock over Bloober Team making a great game.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Nearly 80/20 split between PlayStation and PC is crazy, especially when the space version came out a few days earlier.

I would regard it as a PlayStation series traditionally thoughZ

 

[Gaiff]

Nearly 80/20 split between PlayStation and PC is crazy, especially when the space version came out a few days earlier.

I would regard it as a PlayStation series traditionally thoughZ

Not that crazy if it's Europe. PC is significantly bigger in America and much bigger in China.

Even looking at Steam Charts, it only peaked at 23K on PC. I think worldwide it's 70/30 PS5 at most.

 

[yogaflame]

PS5 for the win. It is a blowout.

 

[DaciaJC]

Not that crazy if it's Europe. PC is significantly bigger in America and much bigger in China.

I thought Europe had proportionally more PC players compared to the US?

 

[Ridicululzz]

Wow surprised at that Sparking Zero stat

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Not that crazy if it's Europe. PC is significantly bigger in America and much bigger in China

May explain why PC seems more of a big deal on this forum than it actually is

Any reason for PC being bigger in America than Europe?

 

[Sleepwalker]

So Dead Space sold better and still underperformed in EA's eyes and as such there won't be a DS2 remake or DS4.

Fuck EA.

 

[winjer]

I bet the issues with stutters and UE5 didn't help selling this game on PC.

 

[GHG]

Not that crazy if it's Europe. PC is significantly bigger in America and much bigger in China.

Even looking at Steam Charts, it only peaked at 23K on PC. I think worldwide it's 70/30 PS5 at most.

I thought it was the other way round? Especially in the Eastern European countries?

Any reason for PC being bigger in America than Europe?

Not so sure it is:

Number of PC gamers worldwide by region 2021 | Statista

As of 2021, Asia accounted for over 687 million PC gaming users, more than a third of global PC gamers.

www.statista.com

 

[Ronin_7]

PlayStation keeps dominating AAA.

More news at 11.

 

[Ronin_7]

Not that crazy if it's Europe. PC is significantly bigger in America and much bigger in China.

Even looking at Steam Charts, it only peaked at 23K on PC. I think worldwide it's 70/30 PS5 at most.

PC bigger in America than Europe...

Hahahahaha
Hahahahaha
Hahahahaha

 

[Deerock71]

I bet the issues with stutters and UE5 didn't help selling this game on PC.

If you play it on Steam Deck locked at 30 fps, you don't even notice the stutters.

 

[Gaiff]

I thought Europe had proportionally more PC players compared to the US?

I thought it was the other way round? Especially in the Eastern European countries?

I thought North America was the biggest territory outside of Asia.

 

[GHG]

I thought North America was the biggest territory outside of Asia.

I'd be interested to see the source of the top chart to see what countries they are including in "western" and "eastern" Europe, but if you combine all the European nations present in the second chart they beat out the United States.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

^^^^

F2P though.

 

[Gaiff]

I'd be interested to see the source of the top chart to see what countries they are including in "western" and "eastern" Europe, but if you combine all the European nations present in the second chart they beat out the United States.

As they should because Europe has more than twice the population of the United States and Canada combined (but not Mexico which I'm unsure if they put in LATAM or NA). I think that PC has a larger market share in NA than in Europe. Europe has more raw numbers because they have more people.

Does Europe in the OP also include Russia or just the EU?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Hopefully SH's budget was around 75M or lower.

 

[GHG]

As they should because Europe has more than twice the population of the United States and Canada combined (but not Mexico which I'm unsure if they put in LATAM or NA). I think that PC has a larger market share in NA than in Europe. Europe has more raw numbers because they have more people.

But if you combine the European nations in official data, it doesn't. Also:

Steam: Game and Player Statistics

Does Europe in the OP also include Russia or just the EU?

Russia not included.

 

[Vick]

I love to see it, and I did my part with a physical copy. But hopefully Konami will find these results more satisfactory than EA did with Dead Space's.

 

[YuLY]

Not that crazy if it's Europe. PC is significantly bigger in America and much bigger in China.

In what Universe is PC bigger in America than Europe ????

The game is a survival horror, they have their place on PC but it isnt a huge draw. PC is insane for souls-like, open world rpgs, gaas. Less so for fighters, survival horror, cinematic 8h games (aka remedy stuff).

It did fine and the good thing about PC gaming is that games continue to sell for decades on Steam as long as the publisher keeps it available, it will get much close as % after 2-3 years.

 

[Gaiff]

But if you combine the European nations in official data, it doesn't. Also:

Steam: Game and Player Statistics

Yes, that's my point. Europe peaked at 8.2 Tbps but North America at 7.1. Europe's population is close to double that of NA if you include Mexico and more than double if you don't, yet, the peak is only 15% higher. A lot of that is probably due to the fact that the infrastructure across Europe isn't as advanced as in NA though, so it's not like guys in Spain could have the same traffic as guys in Canada even if they wanted.

If I may more clearly illustrate my point. PC has a bigger share in NA than in Europe ie: a bigger % of people play on PC in NA than in Europe. If in Europe it's 78/22, in NA it would be 60/40 (random number). Europe still has higher number but NA has the bigger percentage.

Russia not included.

This might or might not affect the overall numbers. Whatever the case, I don't think the worldwide results would be dramatically different. There is Asia missing though, so it could be a differentiator. However, judging by the peak Steam numbers, I don't think it was such a hit on PC. It seems to have done alright.

In what Universe is PC bigger in America than Europe ????

I thought it was outside of Russia and even including Russia, I still believed PC's share in NA was bigger than its share in Europe. ie in Europe it's 65/35 in favor of consoles but in NA it's 50/50.

 

[StueyDuck]

Didn't realise dead space did well, good on dead space

 

[YuLY]

I thought it was outside of Russia and even including Russia, I still believed PC's share in NA was bigger than its share in Europe. ie in Europe it's 65/35 in favor of consoles but in NA it's 50/50.

Maybe you are referring to revenue ? then I really dont know cause gaas games are weird and you know, Fortnite . genshin etc are crazy on pc etc.
But I thought you meant total nr. of gamers/people that are on PC. I'm from Eastern Europe, I dont know a single person in real life who doesnt game on PC, most of them exclusively.

 

[Gaiff]

Maybe you are referring to revenue ? then I really dont know cause gaas games are weird and you know, Fortnite . genshin etc are crazy on pc etc.
But I thought you meant total nr. of gamers/people that are on PC. I'm from Eastern Europe, I dont know a single person in real life who doesnt game on PC, most of them exclusively.

No, definitely not total. Just percentage. For example, Europe has a population of 800M with 180 million console gamers and 100 million PC gamers. NA has a population of 400 million with 120 million console gamers and 80 million PC gamers. In this example, Europe has more PC gamers but a lower percentage are on PC. That's what I meant by PC being bigger in NA.

 

[xiskza]

I love to see it, and I did my part with a physical copy. But hopefully Konami will find these results more satisfactory than EA did with Dead Space's."

You cant really compare EA and Konami can you.

 

[Itchy Tickles]

Wish all the success to Silent Hill 2 and hope it has a good Christmas bump. The effort and end result of this game is absolutely amazing.

Personally enjoyed it a hellva lot more than Dead Space, though I never felt Dead Space to be that much of a horror game. Like RE4 onwards, it had horror elements but was more action based. Having only jump scares in "horror" is low effort. Was still good, but it showed age in level design, especially imo.
I think the Silent Hill 2 remake had a lot more differences and amazing upgrades over the original vs. Dead Space remake and the original of that, too. Both remakes had stutter issues on different engines, though, which sucks.

Hope this is another piece of evidence that gaming is getting some of its soul back over the mess caused by f2p and microtransactions from greedy, exploitative, lazy pieces of shit.

 

[TGO]

Bit of contradictory reporting but this is just the EU.

EA's Dead Space remake was easily the best-selling game. However, it sold less than half of what The Callisto Protocol managed in its first week

Dead Space is No.1, but launch sales lower than The Callisto Protocol | UK Boxed Charts

Forspoken manages No.4

www.gamesindustry.biz

 

[fudgybrownie]

Single player games do very well on playstation when comparing to pc.

 

[mckmas8808]

Hopefully SH's budget was around 75M or lower.

I so what your guess to be right. If it cost over $100m, we're screwed.

 

[Mr Moose]

Not that crazy if it's Europe. PC is significantly bigger in America and much bigger in China.

Even looking at Steam Charts, it only peaked at 23K on PC. I think worldwide it's 70/30 PS5 at most.

In terms of platforms, PC was No.1 in terms of game sales, ahead of PS5 (No.2), Switch (No.3), PS4 (No.4) and Xbox Series S and X (No.5). Out of those five, Switch and PS4 were the only platforms to post a drop in game sales year-on-year.

2023.

 

[onQ123]

It's really PlayStation vs PC now

 

[Mibu no ookami]

PC bigger in America than Europe...

Hahahahaha
Hahahahaha
Hahahahaha

This guy talks and talks and talks and talks... yet none of what he says ever adds up.

PC is big, but with most AAA single player games, people aren't generally buying them on PC, especially if they aren't open world RPGs.

That's just the reality.

Everyone thinks PC is this monolith but it isn't. The biggest PC games on the market aren't even on Steam. The biggest Steam games aren't that big on console.

These are the current most played games on steam at the moment

CS2
DOTA2
Banana
PUBG
Throne and Liberty
Rust
GTA5
Factorio
Apex Legends
EA FC

EA FC is the only game that is a full priced game in the top 10. The top 5 are all free to play.

The next full priced game is Metaphor ranked 35 and DBZ ranked 36.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's really PlayStation vs PC now

Now you know why the new narrative™ was being seeded prior and articles pushing it popped up from the usual's right after the Pro was announced.

 

[Zathalus]

Makes sense, the game didn't do that well on PC and most of those players were from the US.

Edit: Correction on that, the largest single country was US. Europe as a whole is about the same. For this particular title.

 

[DarkstarRising13]

I so what your guess to be right. If it cost over $100m, we're screwed.

It helps that Blooper Team is based in Poland, which has a lower cost of living compared to a developer studio in California. The budget was likely around $50-60 million give or take.

With very positive word of mouth, Black Friday, and Christmas sales, Silent Hil 2 Remake will likely sell around 2.5 million to 3 million by the end of this year.

 

[Esparadrapo]

Yes, that's my point. Europe peaked at 8.2 Tbps but North America at 7.1. Europe's population is close to double that of NA if you include Mexico and more than double if you don't, yet, the peak is only 15% higher. A lot of that is probably due to the fact that the infrastructure across Europe isn't as advanced as in NA though, so it's not like guys in Spain could have the same traffic as guys in Canada even if they wanted.

WTF

Spain's average Internet speed is faster than Canada's.

 

[Killer8]

Not surprised it outperformed Alan Wake 2. SH2 reached 1 million units sold in just a few days while AW2 took 2 months to reach the same milestone.

 

[Self_Destructive]

LMAO people thinking the PC result is bad... This is a heavily PS centric IP.. all the marketing has been basically for Playstation with this game. 1 in 4 copies is just fine for what is basically the series' first honest attempt on PC.. not counting that complete shit ass port of the PS2 game.

Just like with Capcom and Resident Evil.. if they continue to release these games, and put out quality ports in the future of their games, Bloober will continue to grow on the platform. Not to mention, it's been said by analysts that PC sales of games typically don't start off quite as strong as consoles, but have far longer tails.

 

[Sleepwalker]

WTF

Spain's average Internet speed is faster than Canada's.

Canada's average gets skewed by the vast amount of rural areas that can't get high speed internet or flat out depend on starlink.

1gbps+ internet speed is commonplace across the GTA, for example. (I have 3gbps and only pay $50 per month)

 

[Gaiff]

WTF

Spain's average Internet speed is faster than Canada's.

Not taking a jab at Spain lol. I just recalled a few friends there saying their connection sucked. Also, Canada's average is not wholly representative because it has a huge territory and some vast expenses that are almost empty like Nunavut or Northwest Territories. In every city and even town, you'll get a much faster average than the data suggests.

 

[Esparadrapo]

Canada's average gets skewed by the vast amount of rural areas that can't get high speed internet or flat out depend on starlink.

And? Don't they play games in rural areas?

1gbps+ internet speed is commonplace across the GTA, for example. (I have 3gbps and only pay $50 per month)

There are unlimited 10 Gbps plans in Spain for 25€.

Not taking a jab at Spain lol. I just recalled a few friends there saying their connection sucked. Also, Canada's average is not wholly representative because it has a huge territory and some vast expenses that are almost empty like Nunavut or Northwest Territories. In every city and even town, you'll get a much faster average than the data suggests.

If it's empty territory, it should weight less in the average.

 

[EN250]

It was never going to sell gangbusters, but I hope it has legs so Konami has some effing incentive to remake or remaster SH1+3

 

[Shakka43]

May explain why PC seems more of a big deal on this forum than it actually is

Any reason for PC being bigger in America than Europe?

 

[MarV0]

May explain why PC seems more of a big deal on this forum than it actually is

Any reason for PC being bigger in America than Europe?

PC gamers don't really care about Silent Hill, nothing complicated about it.

I'm surprised it managed to capture 22%.

 

[Rush2112]

Funny because EA killed dead space remake as they were not happy with the sales.

 

[GHG]

Funny because EA killed dead space remake as they were not happy with the sales.

EA are also the epitome of greed, so nothing was ever going to be good enough for the remake in terms of sales.