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[Bryank75]

In what could be my favorite episode of Side Quest thus far, Colin absolutely decimates mainstream gaming media with great points and those wonderful named callouts. Had to bump the thread for this as I'm sure a number of people on this website would be interested in in this discussion.

Yes, I tweeted Russ Pitts to say how disappointed I was that he was basically bullied by the mainstream gaming media till he caved in. He should be able to run his business as he wants....

While there are a lot of different opinions on YouTube, the mainstream media seems to lockout such people and views.
Then you have my fellow countryman Danny O’Dwyer trying to make it seem like msgm is inclusive and tolerant of differing views, while also saying by being apolitical, he was entertaining the wrong type of people.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I still cannot believe that the Kinda Funny guys abandoned him and apologized for the Tweet before he quit. I mean how could you not expect him to quit after that. I didn't watch KF for a while after that out of sheer principle, and I've checked back in recent months and as I expected without Colin the content lost nearly all of its honesty and was fake, glossy trash.

I stopped watching, and removed subscriptions to Kinda Funny and all their shit after that. I was not even the biggest Colin fan, but I respected his passion speaking from real thoughts and made for more a variety in the dynamics. You do not have to always agree with someone in order to respect their viewpoints. It is how one learns in life, opposing viewpoints make for healthy and truly progressive discourse. The way they bitched out like that, spineless and weak. Can't respect those with no backbone out of fear of raging gaming nerds over the most harmless of stereotypical woman's day jokes.

P.S. They need a Tim Gettys mute option if anything.

 

[Skyn3t]

Say again, who is this Colin guy?

 

[Dr. Claus]

I stopped watching, and removed subscriptions to Kinda Funny and all their shit after that. I was not even the biggest Colin fan, but I respected his passion speaking from real thoughts and made for more a variety in the dynamics. You do not have to always agree with someone in order to respect their viewpoints. It is how one learns in life, opposing viewpoints make for healthy and truly progressive discourse. The way they bitched out like that, spineless and weak. Can't respect those with no backbone out of fear of raging gaming nerds over the most harmless of stereotypical woman's day jokes.

P.S. They need a Tim Gettys mute option if anything.

Same here.

Also removed myself from anything involving NoClip for similar reasons (mostly that Danny O'Dwyer is a complete ass to a good majority of the audience).

 

[RokkanStoned]

I stopped watching, and removed subscriptions to Kinda Funny and all their shit after that. I was not even the biggest Colin fan, but I respected his passion speaking from real thoughts and made for more a variety in the dynamics. You do not have to always agree with someone in order to respect their viewpoints. It is how one learns in life, opposing viewpoints make for healthy and truly progressive discourse. The way they bitched out like that, spineless and weak. Can't respect those with no backbone out of fear of raging gaming nerds over the most harmless of stereotypical woman's day jokes.

P.S. They need a Tim Gettys mute option if anything.

I kind of felt like Greg worked better on Beyond! than at Kinda Funny. Something flowed better on the Beyond podcasts and it's especially easy to see in the video ones
I think Greg and Tim never function well on camera together, with Tim working much better by someone else that's more a support for him as he's very overbearing. Nothing will beat Beyond though. Looking at those podcasts even now, so long after, the chemistry between comedic, at times explosive and loud Greg, with the more straight man Colin, it worked so well. You could see Greg taking charge, but Colin always naturally falling into the conversation in a very chill manner.

 

[Bryank75]

I kind of felt like Greg worked better on Beyond! than at Kinda Funny. Something flowed better on the Beyond podcasts and it's especially easy to see in the video ones
I think Greg and Tim never function well on camera together, with Tim working much better by someone else that's more a support for him as he's very overbearing. Nothing will beat Beyond though. Looking at those podcasts even now, so long after, the chemistry between comedic, at times explosive and loud Greg, with the more straight man Colin, it worked so well. You could see Greg taking charge, but Colin always naturally falling into the conversation in a very chill manner.

I could never stand Tim, arrogant and self interested with a sneering liberalism.
Greg....I used to like. He was fun and seemed like a decent guy but I can never go back and watch him after what he did to Colin. It was really not now a friend should act.
I didn’t and don’t agree with Colin on everything but he is certainly a man of principle and good moral character, he didn’t sell himself out like the rest. He has my respect and support for those reasons. His family seem really genuine too.

 

[Moneal]

I could never stand Tim, arrogant and self interested with a sneering liberalism.
Greg....I used to like. He was fun and seemed like a decent guy but I can never go back and watch him after what he did to Colin. It was really not now a friend should act.
I didn’t and don’t agree with Colin on everything but he is certainly a man of principle and good moral character, he didn’t sell himself out like the rest. He has my respect and support for those reasons. His family seem really genuine too.

I lost all respect I had for Greg after reading his response to why he didn't meet with Colin earlier this year. He talked about how he was crying, in his wife's arms, after the whole peace and quiet joke stuff started going down. How he thought he was gonna lose the business he worked so hard to create. Better to throw your friend of 10 years under the bus. The same friend that stood next to you while you were going through cancer treatments. That same friend that helped you start the business. The business would have been fine either way but its just easier to give in to the mob than stand by your friend.

 

[mckmas8808]

Good stuff, thanks for the YT link as well.

I think Colin kept Kinda Funny "real", I loved his sarcastic view on things; the harshness. Kinda Funny is total shite nowadays IMO, can't stand the over-the-top-always-funny-and-excited vibe. Makes me wanna barf.

I love the happy vibe that they are on now. It's amazing! But I do miss Colin too. Colin makes a good point here, but diversity is also included with skin, religion, gender, and sexual orientation.

 

[RokkanStoned]

I could never stand Tim, arrogant and self interested with a sneering liberalism.
Greg....I used to like. He was fun and seemed like a decent guy but I can never go back and watch him after what he did to Colin. It was really not now a friend should act.
I didn’t and don’t agree with Colin on everything but he is certainly a man of principle and good moral character, he didn’t sell himself out like the rest. He has my respect and support for those reasons. His family seem really genuine too.

I don't really care much about Tim's political views, though I can see that he appears arrogant, though that might also be understandable that once he came on Kinda Funny he had to make room and prove himself.
I do feel like Greg has become less energetic and that at times he falls out of flow, depending on who he has with him. I think it might also because he's gotten older as well, making it understandable that he might be trying to change or evolve. Going on their own also forcibly matured him as well, but I don't think he works as well in that role. I still like Greg, but I agree that they made mistakes in regards to Colin. I would've expected Greg to just fully backup Colin from a personal point of view, but I can imagine that going into business together with others and being invested in it, that it was a tough position for Greg. Disappointed considering the history, but I still like Greg as a person, even though my respect has dropped a bit.

I lost all respect I had for Greg after reading his response to why he didn't meet with Colin earlier this year. He talked about how he was crying, in his wife's arms, after the whole peace and quiet joke stuff started going down. How he thought he was gonna lose the business he worked so hard to create. Better to throw your friend of 10 years under the bus. The same friend that stood next to you while you were going through cancer treatments. That same friend that helped you start the business. The business would have been fine either way but its just easier to give in to the mob than stand by your friend.

I wouldn't try to assume too much in regards to how that situation was for Greg. It might've been really stressful and he might've found himself in his perspective between a rock and a hard place. I still think he was in the wrong, but I can't really put myself in his shoes and when you're mixing friendship and business things can get ugly. Worst thing was the awkward way they handled it though.

 

[mckmas8808]

I lost all respect I had for Greg after reading his response to why he didn't meet with Colin earlier this year. He talked about how he was crying, in his wife's arms, after the whole peace and quiet joke stuff started going down. How he thought he was gonna lose the business he worked so hard to create. Better to throw your friend of 10 years under the bus. The same friend that stood next to you while you were going through cancer treatments. That same friend that helped you start the business. The business would have been fine either way but its just easier to give in to the mob than stand by your friend.

You're not considering that maybe Greg honestly feels 100% different from Colin on that tweet. And it's possible that they had crazy arguments that were pretty bad after everything went down. Disrespectful things could have been said and can't be taken back.

 

[Bryank75]

I lost all respect I had for Greg after reading his response to why he didn't meet with Colin earlier this year. He talked about how he was crying, in his wife's arms, after the whole peace and quiet joke stuff started going down. How he thought he was gonna lose the business he worked so hard to create. Better to throw your friend of 10 years under the bus. The same friend that stood next to you while you were going through cancer treatments. That same friend that helped you start the business. The business would have been fine either way but its just easier to give in to the mob than stand by your friend.

Surprisingly, I hadn’t read that before. Now that I have read it, I really think Greg is one shallow, callous and cowardly person. He made it seem like he was the one being attacked..... like he was the one about to lose everything and made it all about himself.
He didn’t see that an entire industry and the zombies that mindlessly consume the garbage they write were delighting in the downfall of his friend, his apparent utter destruction. Casting him out like a leper.

Who does he think he is? Is his view of things really this distorted? Why did I ever follow this guy....

 

[Moneal]

You're not considering that maybe Greg honestly feels 100% different from Colin on that tweet. And it's possible that they had crazy arguments that were pretty bad after everything went down. Disrespectful things could have been said and can't be taken back.

What was there to argue over? The rest of KF could have just came out and said they disagree with the tweet, and moved on, but they didn't since they are in the Games Media circle. They had to denounce and deplatform Colin to stay in the circle.

 

[gioGAF]

I don't think any of us really know the exact details, but from what is presented to us, I think Greg is a terrible friend. Who cares if you disagree with your friend on something, that is like dumping my best friend because he/she is a different religion. I am surprised they didn't have Colin's back on something as stupid as that tweet. I guess it is a good thing for Colin since he can move on from people who are not really true friends.

All that being said, the break up hasn't affected me one bit. I only went to Kinda Funny for the content that Colin was in, and now I don't have to sit through the rest of them, I can get directly to Colin's thoughts on his own channel.

As some others have said, I may not agree with Colin on everything, but he is definitely a genuine individual and I can be sure I am getting his honest opinion on things with no bullshit sugar coating or pandering.

Thanks Colin, keep up the good work!

 

[mckmas8808]

What was there to argue over? The rest of KF could have just came out and said they disagree with the tweet, and moved on, but they didn't since they are in the Games Media circle. They had to denounce and deplatform Colin to stay in the circle.

Greg clearly could have handled things better. But Colin could have also. Colin even came on GAF and started speaking crazy as if nobody could think what he said was terrible, yet also be open-minded at the same time. If you disagreed with Colin at that time, you were some crazy troll.

Colin seemed to have literally NO empathy for what he said and how it made people feel terrible. And also how terrible it made him look. He just kept fighting back.

 

[RokkanStoned]

Surprisingly, I hadn’t read that before. Now that I have read it, I really think Greg is one shallow, callous and cowardly person. He made it seem like he was the one being attacked..... like he was the one about to lose everything and made it all about himself.
He didn’t see that an entire industry and the zombies that mindlessly consume the garbage they write were delighting in the downfall of his friend, his apparent utter destruction. Casting him out like a leper.

Who does he think he is? Is his view of things really this distorted? Why did I ever follow this guy....

It is indeed shitty, but again, try to imagine a context to understand Greg better. First of all, it's a business and he prioritized it and the pressure he felt otherwise. Like that whole post is just marketing. If you believe the context there, then you'll have to be pretty naive. I'm pretty sure the more likely explanation is prioritizing the business first, then considering connections in the industry, making casting out Colin the financially sound thing. Is it shitty yes? But can you understand why he did so? Yes. Then you have them being distanced and he being influenced by new people as well, so a lot of pressure to drop Colin would've been on him and maybe he kind of had grown apart from the friendship as well. Is he a shitty person? Depends, we'll never know.
I'm more surprised that people are actually invested in the "best friends" marketing ploy.

 

[decisions]

Greg's response to Colin reaching out felt so wrong to me. The only reason there was any damage to the business at all was because they apologized for Colin and created a rift between them. If that never happened Colin might still be at KF today. I believe he said himself at one point that he planned to leave sooner or later, but never at once like he did. It's obvious why he left so suddenly - he no longer felt he was in the company of friends.

 

[MacReady13]

I lost all respect I had for Greg after reading his response to why he didn't meet with Colin earlier this year. He talked about how he was crying, in his wife's arms, after the whole peace and quiet joke stuff started going down. How he thought he was gonna lose the business he worked so hard to create. Better to throw your friend of 10 years under the bus. The same friend that stood next to you while you were going through cancer treatments. That same friend that helped you start the business. The business would have been fine either way but its just easier to give in to the mob than stand by your friend.

Agree 100%. And his reason for not wanting to meet up with Colin was pathetic. Wanting to move on? From what?!? All he wanted to do was catch up for dinner. Greg is so scared of his fans finding out and the potential backlash he leaves his "friend" behind like that. Pathetic in my opinion. I can't ever see Greg or any of the KF guys in the same light again. Sad because whilst Colin was there, it was my go to place for all things gaming.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

Greg cares more about his career than friendship, that's all there is to it. I can't believe how offensive they make his tweet sound that he needed to move on from his life and basically forget he knew Colin.

 

[Clear]

While I appreciated what Colin had to say in that video, I'd stress the fact that most videogames simply do not contain enough overt, deliberately-integrated political content for that facet to be treated with such importance. Rather than discussing politics of games themselves what happens is that the games are clumsily shoe-horned into a political polemic of the writer's invention.

The simple reality is that if you politicize a work, you are going to disappoint, antagonize, or even alienate the portion of the audience who holds different beliefs. Its just not practical in an artform that's as commercially orientated as games.

 

[DilWSTS]

I lost all respect I had for Greg after reading his response to why he didn't meet with Colin earlier this year. He talked about how he was crying, in his wife's arms, after the whole peace and quiet joke stuff started going down. How he thought he was gonna lose the business he worked so hard to create. Better to throw your friend of 10 years under the bus. The same friend that stood next to you while you were going through cancer treatments. That same friend that helped you start the business. The business would have been fine either way but its just easier to give in to the mob than stand by your friend.

Damn i hadnt read that response...what shit. Cancelled my patreon to them. What a bs excuse for not chatting to a friend of so many years.

 

[Hendrick's]

Just watched the latest CLS. Glad there are more high profile people pushing back on this nonsense. Think he cut Shchreier too much slack, but they are friends so I get it. Anyway, very good episode.

 

[prag16]

Damn i hadnt read that response...what shit. Cancelled my patreon to them. What a bs excuse for not chatting to a friend of so many years.

I hadn't heard this part of the backstory. Hadn't been following closely, and only knew that Colin had become blacklisted due to that extremely damn benign tweet joke.

But holy hell, I can't believe what a spineless toddler Greg is. Absolutely unreal. Completely ridiculous. Can't believe how many sycophants in that reddit thread are falling over themselves praising him.

 

[gioGAF]

Greg clearly could have handled things better. But Colin could have also. Colin even came on GAF and started speaking crazy as if nobody could think what he said was terrible, yet also be open-minded at the same time. If you disagreed with Colin at that time, you were some crazy troll.

Colin seemed to have literally NO empathy for what he said and how it made people feel terrible. And also how terrible it made him look. He just kept fighting back.

Colin didn't do anything wrong. He made a crack on twitter, big whoop. He shouldn't have to apologize for it. I cannot understand how people are saying it "was terrible". That is ridiculous. I guess people need something to be outraged over to show how woke they are.

It is simply mind-boggling that the media and people in gaming picked up on that tweet and made a big deal. I'm not saying you have to like it, but to vilify something as lame as that tweet as some reprehensible act is INSANE. It highlights what is wrong with society right now, the virtue signaling is out of control.

Colin isn't educating your children or some sort of moral authority, he can joke around. Some people may not like it, some people won't care and others will think it is funny. He should be allowed to say what he pleases. If something is truly egregious, there should be consequences (eg. as outlined in the "Terms of Service" for most social media, etc.). Something stupid or, dare I say offensive, should not lead to mob persecution online. Mobs shouldn't be doing any disciplining as far as I'm concerned.

I feel bad for comedians, like Dave Chappelle, who can't even do a routine without some outcry by the offended. At least he has money and can ignore most of the temper tantrums, smh.

 

[Scopa]

Maybe we can get the Guardians of the Galaxy cast to write a nice letter for Colin?

 

[mckmas8808]

Colin didn't do anything wrong. He made a crack on twitter, big whoop. He shouldn't have to apologize for it. I cannot understand how people are saying it "was terrible". That is ridiculous. I guess people need something to be outraged over to show how woke they are.

It is simply mind-boggling that the media and people in gaming picked up on that tweet and made a big deal. I'm not saying you have to like it, but to vilify something as lame as that tweet as some reprehensible act is INSANE. It highlights what is wrong with society right now, the virtue signaling is out of control.

Colin isn't educating your children or some sort of moral authority, he can joke around. Some people may not like it, some people won't care and others will think it is funny. He should be allowed to say what he pleases. If something is truly egregious, there should be consequences (eg. as outlined in the "Terms of Service" for most social media, etc.). Something stupid or, dare I say offensive, should not lead to mob persecution online. Mobs shouldn't be doing any disciplining as far as I'm concerned.

I feel bad for comedians, like Dave Chappelle, who can't even do a routine without some outcry by the offended. At least he has money and can ignore most of the temper tantrums, smh.

I think what he said "after" the tweet was worse than the tweet itself. If some people feel like me, we are focused more on the after effects of the tweet. I do agree that it's wack that he's blacklisted out of the gaming media though. But something tells me that some of that is due to how he treats people behind the scenes too.

And why feel bad for Dave Chappelle? What kind of world do you think you ever lived in? Do you think there was ever a time where a comedian like him can tell off-colour jokes and NOBODY has something negative to say? Alot of these people that are in front of the camera need to learn from Dave Chappelle and learn how to ignore it and stop trying to live on every word that people on Twitter say about them that's negative.

 

[Spukc]

Thing is,
the crazy crew online had it out for colin before this tweet.I think that is the only reason that resetera banned colin threads it shows how fucking toxic that site is. And they know it.
I remember the colin threads here on neogaf.
Holy shit. Talk about shitty people.
I am so glad that neogaf is somewhat more on an equal ground now.
Cause i never even replied on colin thread on neogaf.
Disagreeing colin is hitler got you a ban.

Fuck i wish colin all the best.
But i understand greg he just kickstarted kinda funny quit his job and you dont want negative PR.
He was against the wall.At the end of the day it's a business.

I still watch greg and colin and i think they both got worse.

 

[klosos]

Nice am gonna take a look at this when i get home , I find Colin to be a bit up his own arse sometimes but generally he adds something interesting to the conversation.

If any friend of mine that i was tight with for 5+ years , doesn't want to know me anymore over a silly tweet , then fuck em ill be better off without them. same goes for Colin hopefully he carves i nice niche in the industry where he can prosper.

Lol crying in your'e wife's arms over a tweet , that man needs to grow a backbone he should of stood by his mate and took it on the chin , they might even of garnered more support for the team.

 

[decisions]

Colin's new video on the plagiarism controversy. Unfortunately Miucin declined Colin's offer to speak with him. Also Chris Scullion didn't want to speak with him because of "political differences" LOL.

Colin makes some good points here about the nature of reviewing games.

 

[RokkanStoned]

Also Chris Scullion didn't want to speak with him because of "political differences" LOL.

At least he was rather polite, though it's pretty chilling to think that this is the point people are at, which just feeds onto how misrepresenting games media would be, if the premise of that message on "sides" is true. I can understand it from a more personal point of view, in that he would catch a lot of heat for "talking to the nazis" as certain segments of the games media and a part of the population, views talking to anyone right-wing. In that sense even giving a response and being polite is probably the best you could expect and rather courteous considering.

It should be a good representation of how screwed up people have gotten, where Colin a quasi-libertarian or right of center guy has no problem talking with someone, but the people on the other side have to be careful so they don't fail the purity test. Living under that kind of pressure must be devastating to your psyche and must feel suffocating. I am glad we have pretty left-wing members here at the forum, that although they might disagree with you immensely, they argue pretty well for their position and they remain polite. I'm glad we have that balance, especially with left-wing participation in low-effort political topics (to balance out our earlier right-wing participation in it), allowing us to be a place for opinions, interpretations and facts to be debated. You might change someone's mind or have your mind changed, and if not, then at least you've communicated why you think as you do and just accept that you have two different ideological axioms driving you. In academia we can have big disagreements about things that are very emotionally driven, but still accept to disagree on weighing of data and interpretations and remain polite and continue to argue our cause. Or you just agree on the argument being better and then perhaps test it further and discover a refutation later.

 

[Isa]

The new episode is interesting to be sure. I agree with the above about Scullion's not wanting to speak with Colin. Really is a shame that discourse is avoided by some arbitrary line in the sand. So much for respectful discourse in a free-speech republic. Nobody wants to compromise but instead create divisive factions. And they're not even politicians ffs. What is this, a new caste system in the media where people don't want to be "tainted" by the unclean or lesser castes?

I really am glad that Colin has a new outlet though. As well as other content creators, its nice to have different voices out there in the ether. I actually stopped subbing to KF after their hopping on the outrage bandwagon these past few months on slow news days. The final straw for me was Tim Gettys' comment during a news piece saying he could/would offer no opinion until he checked what RE had to say about it. I lost all respect at that point.

I'm really digging the Sacred Symbols show, that's my new jam for commutes and Chris and Colin have some good chemistry and moments. Plus occasional differing opinions and open minds makes for some interesting listens.

 

[NahaNago]

Also Chris Scullion didn't want to speak with him because of "political differences" LOL.

I was like "huh" when I heard that. It is just so ridiculous. I do think that they need more people for the podcast. The banter between the two is still pretty awkward but I do like the fact that they tend to have different interests in games.

 

[decisions]

The new episode is interesting to be sure. I agree with the above about Scullion's not wanting to speak with Colin. Really is a shame that discourse is avoided by some arbitrary line in the sand. So much for respectful discourse in a free-speech republic. Nobody wants to compromise but instead create divisive factions. And they're not even politicians ffs. What is this, a new caste system in the media where people don't want to be "tainted" by the unclean or lesser castes?

I really am glad that Colin has a new outlet though. As well as other content creators, its nice to have different voices out there in the ether. I actually stopped subbing to KF after their hopping on the outrage bandwagon these past few months on slow news days. The final straw for me was Tim Gettys' comment during a news piece saying he could/would offer no opinion until he checked what RE had to say about it. I lost all respect at that point.

I'm really digging the Sacred Symbols show, that's my new jam for commutes and Chris and Colin have some good chemistry and moments. Plus occasional differing opinions and open minds makes for some interesting listens.

lol what? If you could refer me to that video I would love to see it. That cannot be real.

 

[Moneal]

lol what? If you could refer me to that video I would love to see it. That cannot be real.

I don't remember hearing that, don't watch all their stuff, but I wouldn't put it past them. Greg mentions RE at least 2 times per Games daily podcast.

 

[Isa]

lol what? If you could refer me to that video I would love to see it. That cannot be real.

Ooh man I'd have to do some digging, it was at least a couple of weeks ago. If I recall it was during a Games Daily episode but I don't remember if Greg was hosting or someone else was filling in. I think he was there though. I apologize for not remembering though.

 

[mckmas8808]

I don't remember hearing that, don't watch all their stuff, but I wouldn't put it past them. Greg mentions RE at least 2 times per Games daily podcast.

Which is okay. The whole forum of RE isn't terrible.

 

[Revolutionary]

Which is okay. The whole forum of RE isn't terrible.

It's a preserved time capsule of the absolute worst point in NeoGAF history.

It's pretty terrible.

 

[RokkanStoned]

It's a preserved time capsule of the absolute worst point in NeoGAF history.

It's pretty terrible.

I think you're misunderstanding him and concluding from the loud minority at RE that RE itself is necessarily bad as a whole forum. That said, it's hard to completely avoid the consideration that a strongly moderated forum like RE, and heavily policed in terms of the "opinion corridor", that there isn't a big impact on the environment there and the forum as a whole. And it would be better to discuss RE in the actual off-site community thread, at least if it goes further than this. Short reference is fine, but if it overtakes the topic at hand, which was about a subsection of Colin's video, into a whole bigger discussion about RE only, then it looks at least to me to be belonging in the off-site community thread. That way discussion might continue, while also keeping this more on topic, without far out digressions.

Personally I dislike RE hate that's not based in ridicule or pity or sympathy or critique, but rather some kind of resentment.

 

[mckmas8808]

It's a preserved time capsule of the absolute worst point in NeoGAF history.

It's pretty terrible.

No I mean podcasters can clearly get video game information from RE and use it as content, because things move very fast over there. There's a lot of news that can be gotten there. I don't these podcasters are in the forums going back and forth like a regular member would.

 

[DonF]

declining to speak about plagiarism because of political differences is the most idiotic thing i've heard. The topic is plagiarism, not politics, not the "interviewer".

 

[NickFire]

I always felt and still feel that his friend did him wrong cutting ties like that over such a silly and harmless joke. But his name comes up here a lot, he is certainly welcome here personally and as a topic, yet I never see any posts from him. Kind of getting bored of hearing about him but never seeing him interact with the people supporting him here. He has to know this place is completely different than before, and not seeing him engage with his supporters here has me starting to wonder if he's as scared of negative press as his former friend.

I could be wrong. Maybe he does post here. don't know

 

[WAR recon zero]

declining to speak about plagiarism because of political differences is the most idiotic thing i've heard. The topic is plagiarism, not politics, not the "interviewer".

Well, Colin will sure spin this into his politics and it’s reasonable to avoid such drama. Colin’s figure is shrugged upon in the industry so it nay cast him out as well.

 

[DonF]

Well, Colin will sure spin this into his politics and it’s reasonable to avoid such drama. Colin’s figure is shrugged upon in the industry so it nay cast him out as well.

All I consume of colin is last stand and I find it very politically neutral

 

[WAR recon zero]

Scullion posted an statement. It’s very detailed and mature.

 

[RokkanStoned]

Scullion posted an statement. It’s very detailed and mature.

We know this already, if you've read the thread.

 

[prag16]

It’s very detailed and mature.

Eh. I dunno.

Compared to Oscasio-Cortez's response to Ben Shapiro? Yes.

Compared to what I would expect from a true professional? Not at all. It still boils down to, "uhhh I can't talk to you because we don't agree politically", which is pretty far from mature.

 

[NahaNago]

Scullion posted an statement. It’s very detailed and mature.

eh, I take it for being polite and somewhat mature response but not talking to someone because of their politics just strikes me as silly and immature but I can't hate him for his response since he isn't trying to be hateful. He just views it as supporting someone who's views he is against.

 

[InterMusketeer]

He just views it as supporting someone who's views he is against.

So you can never cooperate and work together with someone for mutual benefit when you disagree with them?

That's exactly the attitude that caused the harsh political climate of today to happen. You can't talk to people you disagree with, you can't work with them, you just separate yourself from the 'others' and keep to your own kind. Nothing good can come from interacting with them anyway. Heck, if you help them in any way, you're just digging your own grave! They weren't even going to be talking about politics for pete's sake. The fuck is this guy even talking about?

I don't know who this Scullion is, but after reading that response I think he's a moron and no one should listen to anything he has to say.

 

[Spukc]

Scullion posted an statement. It’s very detailed and mature.

Sad that the dude can't normally talk to colin because he is afraid of the backlash of his extreme left loon fans. As i would even care if colin talked to someone who is openly against his opinion.

my gosh what a world we live in XD
must be this certain forum that tried to paint colin as the reincarnation of hitler

 

[NahaNago]

So you can never cooperate and work together with someone for mutual benefit when you disagree with them?

That's exactly the attitude that caused the harsh political climate of today to happen. You can't talk to people you disagree with, you can't work with them, you just separate yourself from the 'others' and keep to your own kind. Nothing good can come from interacting with them anyway. Heck, if you help them in any way, you're just digging your own grave! They weren't even going to be talking about politics for pete's sake. The fuck is this guy even talking about?

I don't know who this Scullion is, but after reading that response I think he's a moron and no one should listen to anything he has to say.

I guess I'm just cutting him some slack due to usually hearing folks who won't work with others due to politics being very aggressive/hateful/violent so his polite refusal was refreshing but still ridiculous.

 

[decisions]

I think what Scullion is trying to say is that he's actually afraid of the reaction of his own audience to him working with Colin on any level, by masking that idea in the veil of being afraid of some of Colin's audience possibly checking out his content.

I mean it doesn't really make any sense what he's saying. If any far-right asshole who watched Colin's video was going to seek out Scullion's stuff to post hateful comments, declining to work with him would be more motivation for someone to do that than just speaking to Colin.