Gozer the Gozerian
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Fuck this Tomb of Giants, finally made it to Nito and promptly got my ass kicked. Hate these Skeleton dogs.
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Dark Souls |OT5| Definitely better than the sequel
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Gozer the Gozerian
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I just realized I can run past the final group of them on the way to Nito. The only problem now is.... Nito.
edit: YOU DEFEATED
the game assumes you as a helper want to watch the cut scenes...the host likely pressed start button to rid of it, you need to do the same or it will play.Thanks for the help.
I've been quite surprised by how many people don't attempt the bosses by themselves first. I'm regularly seeing the boss introduction cutscenes but I suppose if people want to co-op the whole game, then it's up to them
are you left handed what is unnatural with having the shield in the left and the sword in the right?
the master key is most definitely the best selection. Its a long story, but many of us who prefer open world and skipping linear paths, begged from to make dark open world after demon's....you don't even need the master key to break what little sequence there is perceived to be in the game, but it does make it easier (as in less time consuming...it isnt that hard to do.) There is no need to feel that you are doing something wrong playing the game the way you want...this was the intent of the developer...in order to have a "path less traveled", there had to be an illusion of a "preferred path" otherwise it could not be broken...get it? So break the so-called sequence all you want,,,that was the true intent of the developer...they would not have made a master key, nor given useless other gifts that have no value unless they thought it was ok to select it. The path f a sorcerer is different than a pyro is different than a bow's specialist...it all depends on what items you want. The items you want are going to be in different spots, and you will want to get the items you want to make your character the way you want him/her to be as son as possible. This is made less time consuming by the master key. All enemies/bosses can be beat at SL 1 so go and learn a way to get through any area, even if it is a suicide run to get the items you want. DOnt look up where your stuff is necessarily, but DO search through tough areas, suicide for items you can see etc. makes the game what it is. IT IS NOT A LINEAR DUNGEON CRAWLER.
SL1 is not as hard as you think...the game is based on attack power, not defense, you can dodge all attacks in the game....vitality and defense is relatively unnecessary fdr an experienced player. If you max out weapons at SL 1 you are minimally less powerful, but simply have less defence. The best way to experience a different game altogether is to do a SL1 no upgrades run and use only what you can hold at base stats....not upgrading makes it a different game and was the best experience I have had as souls enthusiast...not because I'm all macho, but because it gave me new problems to sort out and enabled me to get yet another 15-30 hours of new content out of the game that already gave me 1000.
There are better weapons out there...it hits hard but what about reach? What about varied moveset? There are literally a hundred weapons in the game...try a few less obvious ones and find the one that turns your crank...if that is the battle axe I would be surprised, but if it is what you wish to use after trying all others..... that is definitely your choice.
never consume boss souls,,,make all the weapons and try them out...both the ones mentioned are relatively AWESOME for different reasons...they may not fit your playstyle or parameters, but you want to know they are there just in case. Souls are easy to come by....unique weapons, less so.
Although it is more common for people to do another build, like sorcerer, faith based, melle only, bows only, thief/ dex ninja, skywalker build, or strength tank right away on 2nd playthrough....you can do a SL1 if you wish. Just remember, depending on your playstyle the first round you may have found legitimate ways. Because the game allows for ingenious ways to get by, like tanking for example, you may not have had the practice at dodging that you may want to do a SL1 with. I say go for it...but learn to dodge, learn to two hand weapons with no shield, and use strategies you might not have thought of the first time, like the red tearstone ring, power within pyro, iron flesh etc etc etc. When there is a will there is a way, but at SL 1 the options are less obvious.
A few hints for SL 1 (and even more important if going no upgrades):
equipment:
you are a pyro...use it ALL
dusk crown
dusk ring
bellowing/lingering dragoncrest
red tearstone
light crossbow/heavy cross bow two handed
reinforced club
havels
rite of kindling early
masks
grass crest shield
pine resins all types
poison arrows
poson knives
dung pies
lloyds talismans
alluring skulls
missed a lot.....others can add ones I forgot
DO NOT use:
ring of favour and protection, you will need both ring slots.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
....That is so not what he said. lol
ilnad, you can't switch the controls, sorry to say. It feels perfectly right on an PS3 controller, but when I tried it on PC with a 360 controller everything felt horribly off. Had to plug in my DS3 to the PC because of it.
You will put the Lordvessel in the altar, but will keep the ability to warp between bonfires.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
I'll admit I haven't really given many of the weapons a go. I know I have a ton of weapons in my box that I haven't really messed with yet. I've also only ever made it to the first blacksmith. If I understand right as I make it to the others they will sell some much better weapons, right? Also I assume as I get further in the game weapon drops will get better too. So instead of always getting longsword, short sword, and axe drops I might get something a little better, I hope.
I will make more of an effort to test out some more of the weapons that I already own. I'm going to be hanging out in the Berg for a while so that I can grind and level up a bunch before I head out so that sounds like a good opportunity to put some of these weapons to the test. I probably souldn't have leveled up my axe to +5 already and waste all of those titanite pieces, damn. I really should have held off on upgrading until after I had more experience with a greater variety of weapons.
I'm always learning things with this game. That's why I love it so much.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
OK the Taurus Demon has kicked my butt three times in a row now and I don't even know how I'm supposed to do any damage to him. I do the plunging attack and it takes off like 1/6 of his health, but my attacks do shit for damage and he destroys me with every swipe. I try to roll through his attacks but that doesn't help. I'm level 6, am I supposed to grind before I fight this ass?
Edit: I don't have a 100% block shield so blocking his attacks still does a lot of damage to me.
Edit: I don't have a 100% block shield so blocking his attacks still does a lot of damage to me.
Yep, there is always something new...a guy did a top 10 things you didnt know about dark souls vid and had to do 5 volumes of sequels as he kept finding more stuff most people didnt know. Ive played close to 2500 hours of souls since 2009, own a hard copy of the DS guide, and his vids caught me at least once per video....just today I learned something new although it escapes me at this juncture what that was.I'll admit I haven't really given many of the weapons a go. I know I have a ton of weapons in my box that I haven't really messed with yet. I've also only ever made it to the first blacksmith. If I understand right as I make it to the others they will sell some much better weapons, right? Also I assume as I get further in the game weapon drops will get better too. So instead of always getting longsword, short sword, and axe drops I might get something a little better, I hope.
I will make more of an effort to test out some more of the weapons that I already own. I'm going to be hanging out in the Berg for a while so that I can grind and level up a bunch before I head out so that sounds like a good opportunity to put some of these weapons to the test. I probably souldn't have leveled up my axe to +5 already and waste all of those titanite pieces, damn. I really should have held off on upgrading until after I had more experience with a greater variety of weapons.
I'm always learning things with this game. That's why I love it so much.
There is no reason not to upgrade weapons you like, or even some you dont...weapons that can be transformed or modified into different weapons with boss souls need to be plus 10. So that battle axe you have could become a golem axe with Iron Golem's soul later. Also, i should have mentioned before ...it never hurts to have a good locker full of different weapons for different situations....why limit yourself to only one or two choices per playthrough? Souls and upgrade materials are endlessly available so there is never any real harm in upgrading things...they can even be modified back to their original form if you make them into something you hate.
you dont have to grind superfluously to kill taurus but a good weapon will help...upgrade what you have a bit more perhaps...you did the dropping attack once...maybe lure him to the other side again and rinse and repeat? there are a few safe spots....between his legs to the rear is one. Shields are less important than roll ability...make sure you can roll at less than 25% encumbrance..its more importation than armour as well.
Sorry, guess I ahve zero experience with 360 controller issues ........have either had the Ps3 or the logitech gamepad which mimics the PS3. So on the 360 the l1 and l2 , and the R1 and R2 are reversed?
DaciaJC
Gold Member
He hasn't made it to the Undead Parish yet, how would he upgrade?
ilnadmy, you can try a few things. Do a plunging attack, run towards the other end of the bridge a bit, then turn back towards the tower. Roll through his attacks if you can. Or, you might try doing a single plunging attack (or none at all) and then wait on top of the tower. After some time, the demon will jump on top and you'll have a bit more room to fight him (be careful that you aren't knocked off, though). If you found the gold pine resin on the way there, this would be a good opportunity to apply it to your weapon, as it will increase its damage temporarily. Two-handing your weapon will also significantly increase your damage output, if you're comfortable without a shield.
Good luck.
SeventhSon
Member
Taurus demon is also weak to fire, so you can use firebombs to great effect.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I do have the pine resin and I am a pyromancer so I have the fire attack, but it takes so damn long to actually cast that it's basically worthless. I'm probably timing my rolls badly because I keep getting hit during them. I think I may not be underneath 25% encumbrance so maybe I'll change that up a little bit. I'll apply the pine resin as well, hopefully that helps.
super-famicom
Member
That's supposed to happen. There's a Serpent Man outside your cell you can hit through the bars, he has the key you need to get out.
SeventhSon
Member
Dark Souls is all about animations. Watch the Taurus Demon's attacks. Juke him into an attack that you dodge, then use your pyromancy or firebomb. You don't have to roll to properly avoid his attacks.
toastyToast
Member
Think I was over levelled for 4 Kings. I managed to kill each one with a break between when the next appeared. Also did Bed of Chaos. Man, that fight is terrible.
Off to fight Nito now. I wasn't really feeling the Claymore for a while but now that my strength and dex are fairly high it really messes things up.
Off to fight Nito now. I wasn't really feeling the Claymore for a while but now that my strength and dex are fairly high it really messes things up.
Intheflorsh
Banned
(Late game spoilers)
Siegmeyer just killed himself in Lost Izalith... I died trying to save him, so his sacrifice means nothing. He was far and away my favorite NPC and I am really, really upset now.
Try installing the GFWL client
well i just tried with the newest dsfix, and it worked...idk. time to die i guess.
edit: jk, doesn't work when i change any settings, but with the default settings, the game only takes up 1/4th of the screen.
MrTeachwell
Member
As one poster above mentioned make sure your equipment doesn't weigh more than 25% of your total carry endurance.
I just had a hilarious fight with Taurus, after coming back to this game from a year long break I was getting owned by everything and figured Taurus would be a challenge. My general strategy for him is dodging between his legs and swinging from behind. I rolled on a weird angle and Taurus turned to face me and then jumped backwards off the bridge.
I burst out laughing. This game gives me a new experience every time I play it.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
So I've been having some fun at the forest recently fighting gankers (that feeling when the ganker becomes the ganked is too good), but I wanted to know. I'm coming across a lot of people in full havels with great swords and flipping. How high of a level must they be? One guy gave me 600k souls 0_0. I'm lvl 100 btw.
So glad phantoms have to heal by themselves in DS2. Definitely going to be a brotherhood of the blood member.
So glad phantoms have to heal by themselves in DS2. Definitely going to be a brotherhood of the blood member.
It's not a problem with their levels, it's a problem with their hacks. You need 94 Endurance to flip with full Havel, and that's with Havel's ring and no weapon at all. If you see those guys, jump off a cliff asap.
If their armor set is mixed, then it might be a different story, but they'd still be horribly overleveled.
Toytown Assassin
Member
Just want to add some info to the soul level 1 run chat. You can do this with blocking if you are not great at dodging. I did. You just need to collect 3 shields early and upgrade them asap. You will want the dragon crest shield to deal with heavy fire wielding enemy, the crest shield for magic ones and the balder shield for everything else. You can get all of them very early on though farming the balder shield can be a pain. Once you get it however it is pretty awesome. The stability on that thing when you get it all the way to +15 will even cope with Sith's double swing attack and just soak it up with a sliver of stamina left and no damage taken.
Hmm didn't have too hard of a time with Capra Demon. Beat him in maybe my fourth try. Really should have had him my second time but I got greedy.
The Depths, though. Man that place is gonna give me nightmares. Took on the Gaping Dragon and failed miserably. That's enough for one night.
The Depths, though. Man that place is gonna give me nightmares. Took on the Gaping Dragon and failed miserably. That's enough for one night.
If you didn't purchase the Reinforced Club yet, do it! That weapon is significantly more powerful than your Hand Axe and you can use it without increasing dexterity.
Before doing the plunging attack, 2H your weapon and you'll see that you'll do much more damage to him.
Switching between 1H and 2H efficiently is very important and it will help you during the entire game.
This is a excellent point for base-SL playthroughs, especially for the 4K's fight if you're not Havel cheesing it. Going in with Red Tearstone active and the Giant Blacksmith Hammer and just kicking their asses feels great.
Also wish From had made it possible to roll dodge the Soul Missile in the fight, instead of just running left as fast as possible to get close to the king and hoping for the best.
Only boss fight where the Favor ring at base-SL helps is O&S, especially with crazy restrictions like no healing and especially considering what weapon you're using.
Take note of my Artorias kill here at SL1, not a "restrictive run" just a relaxed SL1 run really. But as you can tell, if I hadn't stupidly put on the Favor ring, he would have activated Red Tearstone when he hit me (was intentional but his attack just didn't damage me quite enough
. So the fight would have been over way faster and easier if I hadn't used the Favor ring.
Toytown Assassin
Member
Crest shield blocks most of the damage.
Yes, I'm aware. So does a Magic Warrior's Round Shield +10 (best overall magic defense shield in the game, aside from Havel's retardedly high stat req Shield), weighs even less too than the Crest. But my point was there shouldn't have been a requirement to "block" to nullify it. You should have been able to roll dodge it too, even if the timing was extremely tight and deceptive.
In contrast, I found the ring of f&p made far more sense for a build that can't level. I never found myself in a position where I was desperate to equip two rings, so much so that sacrificing 20% extra health, stamina, and equip burden would be worth it. One free slot was plenty.
toastyToast
Member
You are not the father!
Fight was not that bad, pretty easy to dodge all in all. That magic though, fuck. Then I remembered about the pendant, shrugged all that shit off like a boss.
All that's left now is Kalameet and Gwyn and that'll conclude my magic (or sword buffs) whatsoever playthrough. Doesn't seem like a big deal with people running around butt naked at SL1 but the other two times I beat the game (in 2011) I cheesed hard with Pyro and an Int build. The concept of hitting things exclusively is entirely new to me. Not sure what I wanna do next, I don't want to go hard on this with DS2 coming out. Man this game is good!
Fight was not that bad, pretty easy to dodge all in all. That magic though, fuck. Then I remembered about the pendant, shrugged all that shit off like a boss.
All that's left now is Kalameet and Gwyn and that'll conclude my magic (or sword buffs) whatsoever playthrough. Doesn't seem like a big deal with people running around butt naked at SL1 but the other two times I beat the game (in 2011) I cheesed hard with Pyro and an Int build. The concept of hitting things exclusively is entirely new to me. Not sure what I wanna do next, I don't want to go hard on this with DS2 coming out. Man this game is good!
KlytusImBored
Member
I just grabbed this for $5 on XBL this week. Starting it today. Wish me luck...
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I actually am using the longsword rather than the Hand Axe. Should I be using the club instead?
I didn't realize about the 2H thing, that makes sense. Thanks.
Edit: Woohoo killed him! Made sure to keep my distance, bait him into swings, then attack while he was vulnerable. He took me down to a sliver of health though so I ran back to the last bonfire I was at to refill my Estus Flasks and use my 9,000 souls I've gathered in my attempts to kill him.
Red Liquorice
Member
Rickert. Some of the Burg enemies do drop titanite, so it's possible (but not necessary) to upgrade before getting to Andre.
As for Taurus, his attacks are so slow, stand in front of him (not in his face, with a little distance) and he will wind up for an attack, walk backwards as he swings, run in for a couple of hits, rinse and repeat.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Or Gold Pine Resin from Burg, jump from the tower attack x 3 and be done with it if you want to skip the challenge
Or Gold Pine Resin from Burg, jump from the tower attack x 3 and be done with it if you want to skip the challenge
Jumping from the tower has a good chance of getting you stuck in its feet on the rebound. Baiting an attack and sprinting for the opening is a lot safer.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I made a suicide run down to New Londo Ruins and picked up a Fire Keeper Soul and reinforced my Estus Flask, so hopefully that helps. I also picked up a 100% block shield off a random mook, so now I can defend safely. I also managed to level up from 6 to 17 after all the runs I made to fight the Taurus Demon, so that's nice. Think I'll call it a day for now.
Question about the white and orange soapstone - can I only use them once before I have to buy a new one? That seems pretty annoying.
Question about the white and orange soapstone - can I only use them once before I have to buy a new one? That seems pretty annoying.
Red Liquorice
Member
Infinite uses.
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I'm sure at least once when I've done the plunging attack in the past I've jumped off to my death after the attack animation. Pretty funny, but probably not so for someone trying to kill it for the first time!
Congratulations! I hope the 2H tip helped.
Regarding your question, the Reinforced Club is stronger, has the bleed effect and more efficient to stun enemies but it's slower, uses more stamina and its moveset is meh compared to the Long Sword. It's very powerful and especially good for low level runs since its requirements are low.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah the 2H plunge definitely did a lot more damage than the 1H plunge. That combined with the Fireballs helped me take him out.
I also have a Morning Star though that I picked up near Firelink Shrine, which also has the bleed effect. Is that a good replacement for the Reinforced Club?
Morning Star has the same speed, same everything but it's less powerful than the Reinforced Club.
It has a very cool look though.
avengers23
Banned
Got past Ornstein and Smough on my New Game Plus playthrough last night. I used my Giant Armor +5, Mask of the Child, and the Guardian Gauntlets and Guardian Leggings, Havel's Ring, the Dragon Crest Shield, and the cursed Greatsword of Artorias +5 to wear down Ornstein. I'd dodge his attacks, put down my shield, and use the 2H attack to hit Ornstein for about 300 points a shot. When it was down to just Smough, it was much easier. I replaced Havel's Ring with Ring of the Sun's Firstborn and hit Smough with ten Great Lightnings. I'd tease him to do the jumping hammer slam, which I could easily dodge and hit Smough with 2H Greatsword attacks. It was the middle of the night, so I just did a little fist bump in the air to celebrate.
On to the Duke's Archive, where I will attempt the Duke Skip so I can get to the Crystal Caves and take out Seeth.
On to the Duke's Archive, where I will attempt the Duke Skip so I can get to the Crystal Caves and take out Seeth.
I just beat this guy too, took me three tries. I didn't dodge anything just used Eagle Shield and Claymore and just tanked my way through (I should really learn how to dodge properly). And damn, I did not know there was a pendant that would shrug off the magic.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Got it. I think I'll stick with the morning star for now since I don't really like how slow it is and I don't really use it at all.
I spent 5 mins farming around the bonfire so I could buy a repair box. Not sure how helpful it is but I figured I might as well buy one. Should I also get a bottomless box from the merchant?
Most stuff degrades very slowly but you might as well have it. The bottomless box is important for keeping your inventory clean. You could just carry all your shit around with you, but it's a headache when you need to switch between armours or weapons quickly - though you can also manually sort items to put them closer to each other for easier switching.
Okay.
So I defeated the Gaping Dragon without dying, felt like a badass, and continued to Blight Town. Then proceeded to die a ways in. Went back to get my body and died again from a botched jump.
I had 35k souls. Son of a BITCH. I mad.
Question: How do you get better weapons? I currently have a Battle Axe + 6 that does like 170 damage. Every other weapon either does way less damage or requires a bunch of stat points. I'm low on titanite.
So I defeated the Gaping Dragon without dying, felt like a badass, and continued to Blight Town. Then proceeded to die a ways in. Went back to get my body and died again from a botched jump.
I had 35k souls. Son of a BITCH. I mad.
Question: How do you get better weapons? I currently have a Battle Axe + 6 that does like 170 damage. Every other weapon either does way less damage or requires a bunch of stat points. I'm low on titanite.