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DOJ forcing Google to sell CHROME

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23

This may be the beginning of the end for Google’s dominance over the web. Justice Department officials plan to ask a federal judge to force the tech giant to sell off its widely used browser, Chrome, a new report from Bloomberg claims.


The Justice Department filed a lawsuit against Google in January of last year, accusing it of having monopolized digital advertising technologies. In August, a federal judge, Amit Mehta, ruled that the search platform had, indeed, broken U.S. antitrust laws and that it constituted an illegal monopoly. “Google is a monopolist, and it has acted as one to maintain its monopoly,” Mehta wrote at the time. Since then, speculation has abounded about what will become of the ubiquitous tech platform. The DOJ has mulled different strategies for breaking up the company.

Now, Alphabet, Google’s parent company, may be forced to sell Chrome. The browser, which was launched in 2008 and integrates with Google’s search engine, is used today by some 3.4 billion people worldwide.

Justice Department officials are also set to recommend that Google “uncouple its Android smartphone operating system from its other products, including search and its Google Play mobile app store, which are now sold as a bundle,” Bloomberg writes.

When reached for comment by Gizmodo, Lee-Anne Mulholland, Google’s vice president of regulatory affairs accused the government of continuing “to push a radical agenda that goes far beyond the legal issues in this case.” She also told the outlet that the “government putting its thumb on the scale in these ways would harm consumers, developers and American technological leadership at precisely the moment it is most needed.”

The government has accused Google of engaging in “anticompetitive and exclusionary conduct” that involved “neutralizing or eliminating ad tech competitors through acquisitions” and “wielding its dominance across digital advertising markets to force more publishers and advertisers to use its products.” A 10-day trial found that the platform had engaged in a variety of tactics to maintain its dominance, including paying approximately $26 billion to Apple and other platforms in exchange for keeping its search engine as the de facto digital search platform in their products.

While you might think the incoming Trump administration might complicate these ongoing legal proceedings, that’s probably not going to be the case. Though Biden’s Justice Department has aggressively pursued action against Google, the crackdown on the platform actually began during the first Trump administration. In October 2020, the DOJ and several Republican-majority states filed antitrust litigation against the company.



Breaking and a big change to search and web dominance.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
It seems crazy that they go after Google and not Apple. The fact that they would pay Apple that much money just to be the default search should tell you something.

 
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kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Google's motto used to be "Don't be evil". Since Google has long ago turned into a bad actor, it's time to bring them down a notch or two. (I just hope this won't effect Gmail, it's one of the best products Google launched during the short time they wanted to make the internet a better place instead of making heaps of money)
 

dsp

Member
Something like 85% of Firefox's revenue is from Google. Firefox can't exist without Google paying for it to exist. But this is kind of the point, FF is controlled opposition to Chrome, literally.

Firefox has been around for a long time. It'll be fine.
 

Z O N E

Member
About time.

How did they let Google be the leader in the browser space, search engine space AND advertiser space. That's like the holy fucking trinity.

The only reason why Google wants to get rid of MV2 on Chrome and go with MV3 is all because of adblockers so that they can shove ads down our throats like it's 2007.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
About time.

How did they let Google be the leader in the browser space, search engine space AND advertiser space. That's like the holy fucking trinity.

The only reason why Google wants to get rid of MV2 on Chrome and go with MV3 is all because of adblockers so that they can shove ads down our throats like it's 2007.
The rise of these big tech monoliths occurred 100% under the Obama administration. He gave them all basically a free pass, both because they donated a shit ton of money to his operations but also because he saw them (correctly, I suppose) as an engine to drive the US economy. So under his watch they got to do whatever they wanted.
 

Sophist

Member
Who could buy it and has the money and the talents to keep developing it? What if google then fork it like did Microsoft or Brave? I think a better solution would be to force Google to follow standards, to have a more open API for plugins and a generic search engine by default.

The thread on hackers news has a few interesting discussions on the subject

 

chakadave

Member
So many unintended consequences when this happens.

Who could buy it and has the money and the talents to keep developing it? What if google then fork it like did Microsoft or Brave? I think a better solution would be to force Google to follow standards, to have a more open API for plugins and a generic search engine by default.

The thread on hackers news has a few interesting discussions on the subject

Who's standards? Do you really think the best and brightest poeple are making the standards and updating them as quickly as software gets developed?
 

Sophist

Member
So many unintended consequences when this happens.


Who's standards? Do you really think the best and brightest poeple are making the standards and updating them as quickly as software gets developed?

Standards is why you can browse this website with firefox, edge, brave, opera, ...
Why you have the same monitor cable with pc gpu, consoles, dvd players, android box, ...
Why you can use you smartphone everywhere in the world...
Why your usb devices works here and there...
...

Standardization should be embraced, not rejected.
 

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future

Apple seems to dodge all these by placing themselves as one option amongst many - but once in their ecosystem they have a complete stranglehold and they make it as difficult as possible to have only one foot in their ecosystem.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
Firefox has been around for a long time. It'll be fine.

Without google cash no, it won’t. If this had been done 10 years ago I would agree with you but the truth right now is that google has been paying for the development of Firefox.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community

Standards is why you can browse this website with firefox, edge, brave, opera, ...
Why you have the same monitor cable with pc gpu, consoles, dvd players, android box, ...
Why you can use you smartphone everywhere in the world...
Why your usb devices works here and there...
...

Standardization should be embraced, not rejected.

Edge, Brave and Opera are Chrome 🤭🫣

There’s only 3 browsers left in the market, Chrome and clones, Firefox and Safari.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
Regardless, Lina Khan is definitely out and the signs are pointing to full retard an-cap going forward, so we can probably kiss the trust busting posture goodbye.

What a stupid comment. The world isn't the red team blue team thing you think it is. Turn off MSNBC and join the real world.
 

SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
What a stupid comment. The world isn't the red team blue team thing you think it is. Turn off MSNBC and join the real world.
You say as if MSNBC or the "blue team" broadly are in any way in favor of any of that. I'm really not sure what you think you're on about.
 
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IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Far from a foregone conclusion.

We’ll see what happens but there’s no telling whether a judge will agree or not.
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
About time.

How did they let Google be the leader in the browser space, search engine space AND advertiser space. That's like the holy fucking trinity.

Youtube and Gmail/Google Docs are important as well. A huge chunk of humanity is permanently logged into Google's ecosystem and using Google services while Google is using everyone's personal data to make money on advertisements. Google sees fucking everything you do.
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Youtube and Gmail/Google Docs are important as well. A huge chunk of humanity is permanently logged into Google's ecosystem and using Google services while Google is using everyone's personal data to make money on advertisements. Google sees fucking everything you do.
Which in turn makes more money for much of the web, as Google made it feasible with all their targeting tech to make bank in ad supported sites.

For better or for worse everything we do to tweak that removes billions from the overall web economy, not just from the Googles and Facebooks of the world.

Apples change a couple years ago to ask people if they wanted to be tracked probably erased like $30 billion from the web economy in a single year.
 

Drew1440

Member
What will happen to ChromeOS and Chromebooks? Wouldn't they be affected since they run entirely through the Chrome rendering engine?
As for Firefox, This could affect Mozilla considering they are mostly funded by Google (similar to how Microsoft ported Internet Explorer to the Macintosh and Solaris due to the looming anti-trust case). Their usershare isn't that great and the management seems to have gone full DEI which is a shame since it's the only proper alternative browser that has its own rendering engine (Gecko, with Brave/Chrome/Opera/Vivaldi all using Blink), plus I have a lot of nostalgia for it since switching in 2004.



Hopefully Android will be the next to be separated. I will never forgive them for putting that awful Google TV launcher on my Nvidia Shield, and the scoped storage change which affected a lot of emulation apps.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
I think it would be extremely foolish to assume anything about what the DOJ will and won't be doing in the near future, given the changes it will be undergoing soon.

This certainly doesn't feel like something that is likely to be pursued...
 

winjer

Gold Member
This is great news to make the internet better for people and take back some control out of the control of Alphabet.
If this had been done a few years before, we would not have crap like Manifest V3.
 

Sophist

Member
This is great news to make the internet better for people and take back some control out of the control of Alphabet.
If this had been done a few years before, we would not have crap like Manifest V3.
Alphabet made the internet better, nothing is on part with google search, chromium or youtube. 📈
 

winjer

Gold Member
Alphabet made the internet better, nothing is on part with google search, chromium or youtube. 📈

Google made the internet better. for the first decade or so.
Alphabet, for the last decade, has been a complete disaster.
 
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