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DOOM Review Thread - The Fury Road of Shooters
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Scientist Supreme!
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Lakerchick4life
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I can get DOOM for 30 bucks on GROUPON was wondering if it was worth it, its between that game and Overwatch not sure what to do
mdsfx
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Wanting to see a game that you enjoy recieve good review scores is a strange mentality?
AstroNut325
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forknknife
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It's worth 60 so at 30 you should be already playing it, not asking us!
Valkyr1983
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Do you work for Bethesda. What a bizarre statement
VanCityGamer
Member
Actually, your statement is the bizarre one. Why wouldn't a fan of the game be happy to see the Metacritic score climb.
mdsfx
Member
Bingo
SolidSnakex
Member
Whether some gamers like it or not, review scores do have an impact on sales. Specifically when dealing with games that aren't sales monsters like a Call of Duty. That's why you'll see publishers citing Metacritic scores in press releases (WB most recently did that for the Arkham collection). So if you enjoyed a game there's nothing wrong with wanting it to review well so it may sell even better as that obviously ups the possibility for sequels.
AstroNut325
Member
Yup. In game development, a lot salaries, bonuses and future projects are decided based on meta-critic. If gaming is something you value, you should care that the games you enjoy are performing well in terms of review.
I was all for it! Looking back, the person demoing it played the game super slowly though.
Bethesda is a company that has been shown in the past to give bonuses based on Metacritic scores. It's gross, but it happens. Obsidian didn't get a bonus for New Vegas because its MC score was 84 and Bethesda promised a bonus for 85 or above, and that's heartbreaking.
So I'm glad to see Doom hit 85 because hopefully it means the team at Id gets the bonus they deserve for making a fantastic game, MC score aside.
So I'm glad to see Doom hit 85 because hopefully it means the team at Id gets the bonus they deserve for making a fantastic game, MC score aside.
Orthogonal
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To be fair, the initial demo did not show the game in the best light. It looks ok, but nothing special. In fact, very little preview footage looked really good until the Nvidia demo just prior to release. Bethesda did a terrible job of marketing the game, good thing it stands on its own really well.
What Orthogonal said, that gameplay demo is what made me think that the game would turn out average at best. I didn't pay any interest in the game until it came out and people raved about it. They either did a poor job marketing it or there was a shakeup sometime afterwards that changed the game.
ZehDon
Member
I watched the video again, and read through that, and I don't think a good amount of scepticism was unfair at that point. Who seriously expected this to have GOTY potential? And the gameplay video is much slower than the final game, and elements like the chainsaw are far less prevalent as well.
Found my own post:
I left my scepticism at the door, and went with my gut. *high fives past-self*
Maybe they knew what they were doing all along. Worked out pretty well for them so far.
Scientist Supreme!
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Of course you want games you enjoy to sale/review well but caring so much that you're worrying about its metacritic, just seems strange to me. That type of thinking of makes sense to me if your part the development team.
Ixion
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I finished the campaign today on PS4. My summarized thoughts are below, but they're not too different from the general consensus here:
PROS:
+The best FPS combat I've every played. The constant movement, the mixing & matching of your arsenal against a varied enemy set, the satisying shooting and executions, and the well designed arena spaces make for action that's fun 100% of the time
+Detailed visuals with a slick framerate
+Soundtrack is fresh for video games and elevates the combat to another level
+Storytelling is done via the environment in a non-intrusive way, but it still adds to the game
+Levels are fairly open and explorable for the most part, which adds another element to the game amidst the combat
+Surprisingly good humor sprinkled throughout
CONS:
-Sound mixing is off for a handful of things
-Level structure could use more tension and unpredictability (needs slightly less emphasis on arenas and slightly more emphasis on more organic/surprising encounters throughout the rest of the levels)
Overall: 9/10 - This game isn't perfect and can be improved upon in a couple areas, but it definitely lived up to the hype. It's one of the most purely fun games I've ever played, so it's something special.
PROS:
+The best FPS combat I've every played. The constant movement, the mixing & matching of your arsenal against a varied enemy set, the satisying shooting and executions, and the well designed arena spaces make for action that's fun 100% of the time
+Detailed visuals with a slick framerate
+Soundtrack is fresh for video games and elevates the combat to another level
+Storytelling is done via the environment in a non-intrusive way, but it still adds to the game
+Levels are fairly open and explorable for the most part, which adds another element to the game amidst the combat
+Surprisingly good humor sprinkled throughout
CONS:
-Sound mixing is off for a handful of things
-Level structure could use more tension and unpredictability (needs slightly less emphasis on arenas and slightly more emphasis on more organic/surprising encounters throughout the rest of the levels)
Overall: 9/10 - This game isn't perfect and can be improved upon in a couple areas, but it definitely lived up to the hype. It's one of the most purely fun games I've ever played, so it's something special.
jim2point0
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No they do not. The game looked really slow back then.
It wasn't until I saw the nvidia demo that I was sold on the game. Fast paced with a mouse and keyboard is where this Doom shines.
I think this is a bit rough considering how arbitrary (and inconsistent) the whole process is.
I can understand taking averages from SOME outlets, but not from across the board. Even then, games like Ridge Racer Unbounded review well (9/10 in Edge), but are really poor.
I guess sales is a better indicator, but problematic too: games can have long tails and just because a game doesn't sell, doesn't make it poor.
Clearly it's results driven, but it seems something of a difficult hinge to place people's livelihoods on . . .
digitalrelic
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SirMossyBloke
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theverge.com
You're welcome Verge
NinjamicWZ
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Here's some forum post from almost exactly 1 year ago:
Will Doom 4 be the video game equivalent of Mad Max: Fury Road?
Will Doom 4 be the video game equivalent of Mad Max: Fury Road?
Pretty sure the devs said they changed up some things based on feedback.
That demo is clearly different than what we have now, even if the bones are there.
Ixion
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digitalrelic
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It actually started in the 70s. Nice to see it reaching so high.
Ixion
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It actually started around 74 after the first handful of reviews, mainly because of the IGN and Digitally Downloaded reviews. My thought was "Well, I guess this will be more of a cult hit."
But yeah, it's climbed a lot since then. I figured a bunch of reviewers would review DOOM with the expectations of a typical modern shooter, but I'm glad to see that only a few reviewers did that. Everyone else understood the appeal.
Even more impressive, I was afraid the game would end up as underrated because of undeserved reviews, glad to see it turned out well eventually.
And yea I mentioned undeserved reviews exactly because it felt like they judged it because they don't like its old school style, which is bullshit.
NinjamicWZ
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This was in a "Rave reviews for DOOM" solicitation from Amazon this morning:
I know they just send those for whatever your buying/browsing interests are, but it was cool to see it pitched as a critical success.
Ah, my bad. I sat in the reply box too long.
I know they just send those for whatever your buying/browsing interests are, but it was cool to see it pitched as a critical success.
That was my thread. See the post above yours.
Ah, my bad. I sat in the reply box too long.
FatherBrain
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I actually hope that bethesda will rethink their 'no-review-copies'-mentality because of that. Otherwise the game would probably have started with a better MC-score, which COULD have leaded to more sales.
I was concerned about:
- Chainsaw on its own button. wtf
- BFG on its own button. wtf.
- focus on melee finishers
Turns out the chainsaw/BFG/melee all play off each other and help form the genius give and take of the action. Chainsaw when you need ammo or need to get rid of something ASAP, and BFG is like the bomb in geometry wars. It's genius.
I was always going to buy the game regardless but I was perhaps most impressed that my concerns wound up not being acceptable but some of the best design choices in the game.
Groupon does deals for video games? I had no idea