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Dragon Age Veilguard, Non Binary character

CGNoire

Member
Lil Yachty Drake GIF by hamlet
🤣🤣🤣 This made my day.
 

Power Pro

Member
Damn, who hit Karlach with the ugly stick. Also, your username reminded me of this scene (inclusion done right):


It's weird, because it's David Duchovny in a dress, but I felt like Denise was done with subtlety and tact compared to so much of the bull shit we see today. Denise came in the room, people reacted, and at some point Cooper asked her what caused the change, and that's it. Every time someone "comes out" as something today, it feels like they're throwing a parade, and are like "ME ME ME". It's not the "being yourself" aspect that gets me, it's shoving it in other people's faces and acting like they're better for it. Also, at least Denise seemed to be a person who just accepted their physical body, and don't mutilate it.

I did always like what Gordon says to her in The Return, lol

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Gonzito

Gold Member
It's weird, because it's David Duchovny in a dress, but I felt like Denise was done with subtlety and tact compared to so much of the bull shit we see today. Denise came in the room, people reacted, and at some point Cooper asked her what caused the change, and that's it. Every time someone "comes out" as something today, it feels like they're throwing a parade, and are like "ME ME ME". It's not the "being yourself" aspect that gets me, it's shoving it in other people's faces and acting like they're better for it. Also, at least Denise seemed to be a person who just accepted their physical body, and don't mutilate it.

I did always like what Gordon says to her in The Return, lol

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Why is Angela in that TV show?
 

StueyDuck

Member


Holy shit!

It's so terrible.

how do people fail upwards, this feels like it's written by a 13-year-old tiktokker.

These people always say "grr chuds don't want politics" and so on... but this isn't political discussion or dissection. It's literally just retard speak.

If there was a tribe that was trans or non-binary and they were at war with another tribe and there were multiple viewpoints and discussions where neither side was correct or wrong, that would be an engaging plot.

this is just childish stuff. It's proof that there is a large swath of Gen Z and millennials who are just unable to grow up, mentally. They are still stuck in this highschool mentality.
 

sertopico

Member
It's so terrible.

how do people fail upwards, this feels like it's written by a 13-year-old tiktokker.

These people always say "grr chuds don't want politics" and so on... but this isn't political discussion or dissection. It's literally just retard speak.

If there was a tribe that was trans or non-binary and they were at war with another tribe and there were multiple viewpoints and discussions where neither side was correct or wrong, that would be an engaging plot.

this is just childish stuff. It's proof that there is a large swath of Gen Z and millennials who are just unable to grow up, mentally. They are still stuck in this highschool mentality.
Yup. Looks like one of those educational videos you watch at the elementary school like "don't forget to wash your hands after taking a dump!", although I think those have a more meaningful backstory,
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Not going to lie, seeing clips from this thread and reading comments it brings me back to 2014, nobody talks about their gender expression as it was back then when young cringy Twitterinos made everything about their gender. And gamers™ were hating on everything. This definitely missed time (by a long shot) when this would be for certain group "the most important thing". If someone would woke up from coma after 10 years, it would feel as if nothing would have changed.

This will bomb, today it isn't simply audience for this shit and besides "modern audience" is mostly on their phones and even that I would feel as they would find it cringy. Someone is stuck in deep pre-Covid times.

This is like a 4 year old version of Baldurs Gate 3, where these LGBT themes were handled great in my opinion and not just that, but it feels like it needs to be said in this thread. Without this over juvenile in-your-face rhetoric.
 

Tangerine

Banned
As someone else asked, how long till steam analytics. I'm not convinced they'll tell us sale numbers. Unless they have to somehow? I don't know enough about publically listed companies.

I'm pretty sure we still don't know Alan Wake 2 numbers.
 
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StueyDuck

Member
Yup. Looks like one of those educational videos you watch at the elementary school like "don't forget to wash your hands after taking a dump!", although I think those have a more meaningful backstory,
I just don't get the infatuation with highschool and refusing to mature and grow up that these kinds of people have.

High school was like... fine, Sure it was me at my most athletic and getting the first bits of action, but university for me was better and where i made most of my close friends today. Even then, why would I dwell on some old shit when today I have a stable job, stable finances, a long-term partner and I can do literally anything I want when I choose to. Highschool is shit :messenger_tears_of_joy:.

Do we know if these developers have even left the home yet or are they still living with their parents, honestly that writing/dialog reads like someone who doesn't communicate with other adults very often.
 
In neogaf cares when there's a non binary character...even half of my twitter home there's people posting about

I don’t think that most people care that there is a non binary character.

I think people are pissed because the only reason this character exists is to promote an agenda.

The developers of this game made an intentional decision to use this franchise to promote their utopian societal, political agenda.

We want to play fun games that is all. We don’t want this messaging or any other messaging in our games.
 
Saw this collection posted on Reddit, which includes some of the footage already shared here and some that hasn't.
Full: https://files.catbox.moe/3im089.mp4

Separate Scenes:

Nobody likes being a woman:

I can't even be a woman right:

Kay Bye:

Ready to talk to my mother about who I really am:

So I'm non-binary: - Jerry Seinfeld Remix: https://streamable.com/fn6sso

The Dragon King: https://streamable.com/3s2wso https://streamable.com/4enth1

Pulling a Bharv: https://streamable.com/m3b7rv https://streamable.com/4elqwu https://streamable.com/osj0aw

You Smell Good: https://streamable.com/jf8cs5

Apparently Early Reviewers/YouTubers had to agree to/were not allowed to talk about Taash's "personal journey" to get an Early game Code from EA, so that's why none of the Early reviews seem to mention this character or its broader story in-depth (even in a positive or affirmative way, like you undoubtedly would expect from some of those "reviewers"): https://archive.is/pjhAw#selection-2659.1-2659.165

While I did receive a 40 page review guide, the only woke stuff you were asked not to talk about was Taash' "personal journey". Which I did anyway because fuck off.
The IGN "review" confirms this: https://archive.is/CWrVr#selection-2545.0-2545.91
And while we've been asked by the devs not to spoil specifically who I'm talking about here, as a non-binary person myself, Veilguard includes some of the most authentic representation of coming to terms with gender stuff


Honestly, the extreme levels of trash writing is starting to feel offensive to me. To think they're asking €60/80 for this, only for users to get lectured like they're dumb teenagers, while getting bombarded with 'millennial writing'. How is this even real?
 
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Danjin44

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Same energy:


Am l misunderstanding something here? They talking about taking criminal jobs like stealing and murder but at same time they trying to pay their student loans…….that doesn’t fucking make any sense, at that point why even worry about paying student loans?
 

GHG

Gold Member
This is the complete Taash story. Prepare for hard cringe. It was on Youtube but EA took it down.
edit: Credit goes to P Pey. check out more content here:

I only managed to get a minute through this.

Unimpressed Viola Davis GIF


The only positive in all of this is that the for-hire reviewers/youtubers have 100% been exposed for what they are, along with the shill accounts on here that clearly post on belaf of whatever major western publisher is paying their bills for any particular month.

All round, fantastic exposé. Shame about the game, would rather it didn't have to be dragon age.
 
Are you aware that video games are made by artists in progressive cities like San Francisco, Seattle, Austin, and Montreal?

Have you ever met an artist? Like art was their job? Have you ever lived in a big city?

Like, its art, it's not for you, it's made for whomever. Like a song or a painting.

Are you upset that someone in the room you are in is gay or trans? Walk into the country bar next door. The same thing applies here.


Man, you are the kind of dumbass that sees a toilet in a museum and thinks it's art.

The level of childish arrogance of your post is full cringe. Seriously, dude, a bunch of weirdos who can't even tell their own gender are not "artists from progressive cities" hahaha, this quote is straight out of Wire or Vanity Fair.
 

ShadowNate

Member
I'm thankful the writers took it upon themselves to lecture players about what a non-binary person is, how it feels like to be non-binary, how important pronouns are and how to have proper discussion with such a person.

I thought the dialogue for covering all these Important Issues™ would be hot trash.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
, or the fact that this is no longer a grimdark RPG, but a disney esque - Avengers filled adventure. Or better yet the trailers reminded me of the DND Movie that recently came out.

This.

In the original game I had to choose to kill a child who was possessed, or decided to kill a tribe of werewolves over an elf tribe. Those were dark decisions that really tested your morality, which was on par with RPGs of the day (choosing to nuke megaton in FO3 comes to mind)

I haven't seen anything like this in the new DA game. It all looks very safe and friendly. Not my cup of tea.
 

Gonzito

Gold Member
I wont play this game, and I am fairly sure the peoplem making it has the same reasoning about our comments.

Just don’t buy it. Unless you are afraid they will turn your frogs gay or give you vaccinelizard-disease. :D

"Just dont buy it" man that has to be the weakest and most stupid argument coming from apologetics leftists
I cringe everytime someone say this shit, its classic gaslighting in the most moronic and lazy way possible

Maybe my friend I care about games, and maybe I dont want fucking propaganda that ruin videogames
I care about the industry, I am passionate about videogames and seating down and not doing anything its not gonna happen, at least not while I am still on this earth alive
 
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Tangerine

Banned
That hardly makes it logical.
How is what's happened illogical.

If you try and force feed a child who isn't eating you don't succeed in correcting the action. You give them phobias or exacerbate existing phobias.

Likewise this ideology is being crammed down our thoats.

Cause and effect. The radical trans, non binary pronoun activicts have infiltrated and are ruining countless franchises people love and have nostalgia for, all for the 'modern audience' most of which don't want it.

Therefore inevitable backlash on mass from the wider gamer community.

We are sick of being lectured to, sick of the moral grandstanding, the accusations of bigotry, sick of our media being ruined.

You people have set trans acceptance back decades with your inflammatory actions. You have created and fed the monster you so claim to hate. You are too ideologically captured and echo chambered to realise this. Some do come to their senses though.
 
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