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Dragon Age Veilguard, Non Binary character

Guilty_AI

Member
If this is your biggest issue in life, you have other problems to deal with.
if only this issue wasn't directly correlated with many of the real life issues people have to deal with right now.

Will workplaces force people to do push-ups as an "apology" too? Tis only a joke but wouldn't be the first joke turn reality i would witness in this lifetime.
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
I like this edit.




But man... is this actually how they think? "Why can't you just be happy for me?" Happy for what? That you're a retard who's confused? Go work on some spells or shit or whatever you demons do. Sheesh!

My god, what a shit scene with all the cliches about trans people “I want to be myself” to non trans “you got like this because I criticised your dress”.
 

cormack12

Gold Member
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RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
Someone linked this in one of the many hundreds or veilguard threads, and I think it's a pretty good take. Dunno why it's getting so much hate.


That's an excellent article, I especially liked this bit, which is soo fucking true, nobody has an issue with trans people, we all know they exist and id like to think we'd all be decent human beings towards them and treat them with respect but when the nutjobs amongst them start to dictate how WE should feel and how WE should act then they overstep the mark and put a crosshair on everyone, the clips I've seen no matter how short within the game are enough for me to hard pass through principe alone, nor will my kid be allowed to get it, you don't get to lecture me or my kid on how to fucking apologise for misgendering someone, god that scene is beyond a parody and they can't even see it, anyways the author gives an excellent example how THEY should've approached the scene but let's face it, the cunts where never about subtlety..


That’s the problem with preaching to the choir. Someone not normally inclined to sympathy toward trans people might read The Bright Sword and actually walk away with more complicated feelings; nobody playing The Veilguard will. Instead, they’ll be rightfully annoyed at having this type of 21st century dialogue (hamfisted even for the modern era) foisted upon them midway through a fantasy RPG.
 

Quasicat

Member
I’m going to wait and see if you can make this a choice. It looks like you can unlock the ability to be woke or not based on that last picture. 🤷‍♀️
 

Rivdoric

Member
I thought Cyberpunk 2077 was overrated then i saw some videos of this game and now i think Cyberpunk is underrated.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Fucking Blackrock, Hate em.
They manage over TEN TRILLION dollars in assets. It's absolutely mind boggling. If they were a country I think they would be #10 in the world, right behind Italy and just ahead of South Korea in terms of total value :p

On the one hand I LOVE cyberpunk and its pretty much all coming true, on the gripping hand cyberpunk is dystopic as all hell for anyone outside of the top 1% and I'm pretty sure I'm well outside that group :D
 

Fake

Member
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Topher

Identifies as young
Someone linked this in one of the many hundreds or veilguard threads, and I think it's a pretty good take. Dunno why it's getting so much hate.


That column does a great job highlighting where the problem with the game's approach to trans truly lies.

Very cool that Mattyp Mattyp got a shout out as well.
 

laynelane

Member
Someone linked this in one of the many hundreds or veilguard threads, and I think it's a pretty good take. Dunno why it's getting so much hate.


He went in on the writing, but perfectly described an increasingly prevalent issue in certain games - to paraphrase him - sanitized, politically correct, dehumanizing writing done by amateurs who shouldn't be writers in the first place. It so heartening, after all the bs perfect and high reviews from bloggers on game sites, to see that there are still people who will speak truthfully.

Edit: Replied to wrong comment.
 
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jason10mm

Gold Member
So it is possible to totally skip this character? Most of the cut scenes posted only have a few characters in them so is it possible to TOTALLY skip anything at all with each companion or do you have to have them all in your party? And if they are all forced to be in your party, can you just ignore this character to never see this stuff (I hear companion skill progression is linked to their story progression) and still play the rest of the game?

The art direction alone isn't endearing me to this game but if Taash is totally skippable or could at least be a minor character just participating in battles then maybe it would be tolerable. Though who knows, maybe there is enough with this character acting like a normal person to hook me to find out more about her and her mommy issues.
 

Lootlord

Member
So it is possible to totally skip this character? Most of the cut scenes posted only have a few characters in them so is it possible to TOTALLY skip anything at all with each companion or do you have to have them all in your party? And if they are all forced to be in your party, can you just ignore this character to never see this stuff (I hear companion skill progression is linked to their story progression) and still play the rest of the game?

The art direction alone isn't endearing me to this game but if Taash is totally skippable or could at least be a minor character just participating in battles then maybe it would be tolerable. Though who knows, maybe there is enough with this character acting like a normal person to hook me to find out more about her and her mommy issues.
If not, maybe there will be a mod, let's hope.
 

readonly

Member
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like.... I'm agender?!?!
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i 100% bet some of those people must be trolling.
Yeah... It's bizarre to say the least, but if it's legit then we see what happens when you give these people just a little bit of latitude. They go way too far. It's like society could have collectively pulled these people out of a ditch but instead they're in a 30 foot sinkhole, soon to disappear forever.
 

Hypnotoad

Member
I am just here for all the stupidity. The German version is apparently littered with complete nonsense. And I don't mean "inclusive language structures" that people have been conditioned to accept, like :innen as the plural form (and that being applied inconsistently, sometimes the game just uses the evil generic masculine). No, the real fun is in completely made up language that I have never encountered even among the wokest of woke Germans. Case in point:



The article "ders" and several other word creations are completety random made-up BS
 
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kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
They have stocks in most big companies. Conspiracy theory is that they use this to push agenda.

I think that companies are doing this to themselves.

Here's the boss of BlackRock saying very clearly that he forces companies to implement DEI.

"You have to force behaviors. If you don't force behaviors whether it's gender, or race, or just any way you want to say the composition of your team, you are going to be impacted. (...) We're going to have to force change."

 

Bojji

Member
It's on their website, no need to make theories when they are saying it out loud.

Here's the boss of BlackRock saying very clearly that he forces companies to implement DEI.

"You have to force behaviors. If you don't force behaviors whether it's gender, or race, or just any way you want to say the composition of your team, you are going to be impacted. (...) We're going to have to force change."



Can't argue with that.

But even without their involvement most companies are on the left political spectrum. Woke shit in games was inevitable, I just hope it will die soon.
 
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Cyberpunkd

Member
She is absolutely correct! Some weirdo Narcissistic dev managed to put that in there because to this creature, an apology is not enough, you need to be punished for CORRECTLY identified his gender.
The whole scene for me just screams how cis people think trans people think and react. Maybe I’m wrong but this I think is a more realistic scenario:

Cis: (misgenders a person)
Trans: (shuts up because it’s probably an honest mistake and it happened for the first time)
Cis: (realising what happened): Hey, sorry I misgendered you
Trans (because they are not an idiot and understand how socialising works): No worries, thanks

Instead real-life equivalent of this scene is something like that:

Cis: (misgenders a person)
Trans: (shuts up because it’s probably an honest mistake and it happened for the first time)
Bunch of cis people: OMG, do you know what you just did? How can you live with yourself?
Trans: It’s fine, I’m sure it was an honest mistake
Bunch of cis people: NO! This is for sure another facet of a totalitarian cis regime that wants to deny the existence of trans people! Also if they are white - they need to atone for centuries of their ancestors exploiting other cultures and races, even though they had nothing to do with it! Now give me 10!
Trans: (better to be quiet, cis people are crazy)
 
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Tons of ppl in cali have issues with them too, or rather, with pushing agenda that its not mental illness ^^
Amen, a huge majority of people don’t like that crap. A lot of people don’t actually have problems with gays and lesbian especially when the world was better and more sane since it’s still male and female as it should be. It’s the whole lgbtqbbqz movement that people have problems with but only because they not only try to push the most insane stuff with weird pronouns and thinking it’s okay to sex change but worst is that they want you to think it’s normal too. If they keep the crazy stuff to themselves then it wouldn’t have been anywhere as hated by people. Like the trans in Thailand aka Lady boys there at least acknowledge that they are lady boys and will let people know that they are one and keeps to themselves.
 
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Amen, a huge majority of people don’t like that crap. A lot of people don’t actually have problems with gays and lesbian especially when the world was better and more sane since it’s still male and female as it should be. It’s the whole lgbtqbbqz movement that people have problems with but only because they not only try to push the most insane stuff with weird pronouns and thinking it’s okay to sex change but worst is that they want you to think it’s normal too. If they keep the crazy stuff to themselves then it wouldn’t have been anywhere as hated by people. Like the trans in Thailand aka Lady boys there at least acknowledge that they are lady boys and will let people know that they are one and keeps to themselves.


Thai ladyboys are more feminine than any Western female character.
 

royox

Member
I'm spanish and the game's subtitles are a FUCKING DISASTER. A lot of characters speak using "gender neutral" pronouns and articles in every situation, and guess what...spanish language DOESN'T HAVE gender neutral. Things use masculine or femenine articles and pronouns (ending in -a for fem and -o for masc). The game is plagued with words ending in -e that doesn't exists in my language and it's super annoying.

It's not just a character that you can avoid...is nonstop. Trash of a game.
 

Tajaz2426

Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
Thai ladyboys are more feminine than any Western female character.
Boy, back in 2004, we were in Singapore doing some training and some of us went to an off limit area at Orchard Towers there.

I had a Marine Cpl Rogers, I’ll protect his first name because I am a gentleman, who was in an elevator going between floors and when the door opened security guards were waiting on him.

They seen him getting a blow job on camera. Usually you get your ass pinned up there in Singapore, but they told him to leave and laughed and ask him if he knew it was a Kathoey giving him head.

It was the best thing to ever happen to my life, I tell ya. The rest of the deployment was pure joy and over 20 years later, about 12 of us still text him weekly to ask how it was and did he end up marrying a woman that couldn’t give him that great of a time.

Ah, life. It wonderful sometimes. Another Marine made a who song about it on YouTube, I’ll try to see if it is still there or if I can find it.

Thanks for the memories. I can still see the projectile vomit that came from that grown man as we walked out of the club. Beautiful.
 

Hypnotoad

Member
I'm spanish and the game's subtitles are a FUCKING DISASTER. A lot of characters speak using "gender neutral" pronouns and articles in every situation, and guess what...spanish language DOESN'T HAVE gender neutral. Things use masculine or femenine articles and pronouns (ending in -a for fem and -o for masc). The game is plagued with words ending in -e that doesn't exists in my language and it's super annoying.

It's not just a character that you can avoid...is nonstop. Trash of a game.

I guess they have done this in every language. Now I can't wait to check how that applies to the Chinese version.

Edit: There is exactly one Lets Play of the Game in Chinese on Youtube, and the player is skipping through the dialogue. :messenger_tears_of_joy: Every other single video in Chinese is calling it out for being DEI trash.
 
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cormack12

Gold Member
That Taash is a proper twat. Why do creatives think they can force unlikeable characters onto people? They think there will be a heel turn and in the end it will be like oh you made me like them after all because you wrote them so brilliantly. Even if they are proper cunts. All based on Alyssa Mercante
 

Nickolaidas

Member
Okay, serious question.

For people such as the one above, can they just change their minds about how they wish to be addressed on a daily basis? Because if so, that's actually pretty unfair to everyone else.

One day, he/him, the next day, she/her, and the next day not wanting to be gendered at all. A week later, back to feeling like being he/him.
You are overthinking it. These are people with no real problems and too much time on their hands. That's it.
 
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