Magic Carpet
Gold Member
So what will be this years Deathloop that gets shown in every online event?
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FromDuskTillGameOver
Member
Its bad news for consumers, when billion dollar companys wont compete anymore in an annually event.
TheMan
Member
E3 has its problems but at the end of the day, I love getting all those announcements and reveals during the conferences. I'm going to miss what it was although I'll admit it lost a lot of its punch as an online only event
Fuckers won't wear their masks and vaccinate and so here we are
Fuckers won't wear their masks and vaccinate and so here we are
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Unknown?
Member
You can thank those echo chambers on the rise of social media and advertisement as a main source of revenue for the internet. This may antagonize the symptoms but definitely not the problem.
no.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
E3 is not really needed.
Sony/Microsoft can just do there own shows and stream/upload them on YouTube.
Sony/Microsoft can just do there own shows and stream/upload them on YouTube.
Huevos de Oro
Member
Good riddance.
TheGodfather07
Member
The Death of E3 was inevitable once sony decided to stop participating. Than covid happened too. Makes me sad as E3 was legit fun with all the conferences crammed into 2-3 days but we are entering a digital era. E3 isn't needed anymore and is costly and puts pressure on the studio's.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
It's the cost. Most publishers are making more money than ever and as with every industry they have become more greedy than ever. No one wants to spend millions on a trade show. They tried to low ball the ESA. They didnt budge and slowly everyone pulled out.
The pandemic accelerated the process but Sony had already pulled out in 2019 before the pandemic. It's all about the money.
The show was always for the fans. For the gaming nerds and they dont need us anymore. it's why PSX was cancelled. The industry is too big and has its sights set on the whales just like the mobile industry does, and they dont throw any big conferences.
BusierDonkey
Member
My brother and I always treated E3 almost like a holiday. I'd take the day off work if I could, we'd get pizza or something and just enjoy the event. Sad to see it slowly die away like it is. Even when it was shitty it was still a lot of fun laughing at the incredible levels of cringe from the event. It's unfortunate that so many good things about this hobby have slowly become empty shells of what they once were.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
One guy on Era proposed a great idea for Xbox shows
For that Xbox needs to be good in marketing, but they can't
Would be really cool to have something like this for Xbox.
For that Xbox needs to be good in marketing, but they can't
I will miss crowd reactions, but at least right now with have Youtube videos and podcasts with reactions
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yurinka
Member
The thread title is misleading. Jeff said “E3 digitally PROBABLY also cancelled”. Plus he has zero credibility.
The most likely scenario is having a digital E3 and as always we'd have separate online conferences for each company plus the Doritos Show and multiple indie streams.
The most likely scenario is having a digital E3 and as always we'd have separate online conferences for each company plus the Doritos Show and multiple indie streams.
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SilentUser
Member
Kinda sad, even though I wasn't watching it for a long time. I guess I'll miss all the hype days before the E3, there is nothing close to that with the digital events.
Other than that, time changes and that's how things roll
Other than that, time changes and that's how things roll
Dr Bass
Member
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None of this makes any sense.
Yeah it could be the cost, but if there is no return on that cost, yeah, of course companies are going to pull out. This is business, not charity. With the advent of YouTube and easily sharing your product with the consumer base, E3 is a total anachronism at this point. That's why Sony and Nintendo basically stopped participating. Because they are smart, not "greedy."
E3 was not always for the fans. It started out as a trade only show. I never went, but I had bosses that did. It was a place for people actually IN the industry to get together, meet, see what's coming out for the year (hopefully), discuss business, socialize etc. Many, many, people think E3 "jumped the shark" when they did start allowing the fans in.
Gaming "nerds" are a large part of who buy Nintendo, Sony and MS consoles. Of course the industry needs them. You say the focus is on the "whales" but that is a term associated with F2P/MTX, and for very good reasons. The models that both Nintendo and Sony follow are nothing even close to seeking out "whales" to exploit. They make high quality software and sell it for a sticker price.
Your constant bashing of developers, publishers, and the "greed" of the people in the industry is tiresome.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Yeah it's so sad that divisive rhetoric and conflict are what drive most revenue online these days, at least in entertainment-focused spaces.
By that notion then Summer Games Fest and The Game Awards aren't needed either, especially the latter as, outside of a couple gameplay/game reveals was a giant waste of time. So it would be interesting to see opinion pieces questioning the reasoning for the existence of those shows but...
...but I doubt you're going to see that because this is all probably as much a game of backstage politics (to drive out a competitor event) as it is reflecting on actual factors impacting an event like E3. In other words I don't think all the calls to just "cancel E3" are genuine out of logistical concerns, but rather so there isn't a certain big competitor towards a couple of other certain big events in the industry.
That's all my opinion though, and I can't say I have any proof to back any of this up. That said, I do think a lot of games journalists, after the unfortunate info leak a few years ago, would probably have no issue trying to steer public opinion to disregarding E3 for how apparently unnecessary it is anymore, while a couple of other massive, similar events are conveniently never put into that same conversation.
Just something to maybe think about.
Just a sampling of some of the great things E3 has brought us that almost all of these newer events will never be able to replicate:
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Lognor
Banned
Gotta be Forspoken. The response to that game is about as lukewarm as it was for Deathloop. And with the recent poor showings I think Sony will try to ram this down people's throats once we get closer to its release.
Lognor
Banned
Yup! That's my read on it too. The people saying it's good that E3 is dead, more than likely they are PS fans. E3 is still great. And I hope it isn't canceled. E3 is too big to fail. They don't need Sony. They've shown that.
Wesleyalucard
Member
Sony E3 2015 Sony E3 2016
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Sounds like a Keighley psi-op. No reason to cancel a digital event that both MS and Nintendo support.
Barakov
Member
That's the biggest problem here. It's seems like most of the big companies have to release a hour long talk show just for a trailer. Watching the big three conferences was one of the best parts of the year. Now it's just bleh.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
A concentrated event would still be great, it just doesn't have to be run by the ESA.
TLZ
Banned
For a moment there I thought this was a dating ad you see between posts.The only thing I miss about e3 is the booth babe collections from magazines. It was good to be 14
You can problaby guess what legnagyobb means
kyoji
Member
No playstation, no nintendo = game over for e3. Writing was on the wall.
Still and all should take it with a grain of salt until theres a formal announcement.
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Coolwhhip
Neophyte
The only thing I miss about e3 is the booth babe collections from magazines. It was good to be 14
You can problaby guess what legnagyobb means
The booth babes for E3 2023 revealed:
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newtypepilot
Member
They killed themselves by removing booth babes
SteelCurtain 59
Member
It's not even the biggest release in February
Alpha Male
Member
Nevermind...gif won't upload
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Dream-Knife
Banned
I think E3 is gone for good.
But now we get 3000 events that are 99% bullshit so much better amiright? Instead of couples of shows that had useful shit we get teases and tune in for a premier of some low budget mobile game after 2 hours of crap. Sorry it was the summer of suck last year.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
They were told its old and it should die and they just ate the narrative without any thought.
Chukhopops
Member
Yeah I’ll miss it too, it was fun staying up all night watching the conferences a couple years ago.
I hope MS keeps its big yearly conference at least.
