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El Salvador offers to house violent US criminals and deportees of any nationality in unprecedented deal | CNN

El Salvador has agreed to house violent US criminals and receive deportees of any nationality, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced Monday, in an unprecedented – and legally problematic deal – that has alarmed critics and rights groups.

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I think it’s very nice of el salvador

 

[Puscifer]

What the fresh hell is going on in this country

 

[nikolino840]

Why not at Abu Ghraib?

 

[Dr.Morris79]

'Has alarmed critics and rights groups'

'Oh no, please don't make our streets safer and get rid of criminals, we love you living in shit'

Yeah yeah, same bullshit over here in the UK.

 

[DKehoe]

Is it really so hard to not post about politics?

 

[Trilobit]

Is it really so hard to not post about politics?

Gaffers:

 

[Cyberpunkd]

'Has alarmed critics and rights groups'

'Oh no, please don't make our streets safer and get rid of criminals, we love you living in shit'

Yeah yeah, same bullshit over here in the UK.

I don't think you get the point. This is allowing US citizens to be deported to another country to do their time, without any supervision of what is happening to them. As shocking as it is for some people - prisoners also have rights.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I don't think you get the point. This is allowing US citizens to be deported to another country to do their time, without any supervision of what is happening to them. As shocking as it is for some people - prisoners also have rights.

I do. And it's 'Violent' criminals. Who cares where their from

Send them to the moon for all I care.

But it all depends on what kind of society you want to live in. As long as there are checks and balances involved, is it really an issue? There has to be an infliction point for change because I don't know about you but I'm not personally happy about what is being allowed to carry on in our countries.

When I have to worry about my child going ten minutes down the road to the local shop in the early evening, we've got a problem. He has more rights than violent prisoners

Enough is enough.

 

[Hookshot]

Seems like one of those slippery slopes I hear about.

 

[MikeM]

I do. And it's 'Violent' criminals. Who cares where their from

Send them to the moon for all I care.

But it all depends on what kind of society you want to live in. As long as there are checks and balances involved, is it really an issue? There has to be an infliction point for change because I don't know about you but I'm not personally happy about what is being allowed to carry on in our countries.

When I have to worry about my child going ten minutes down the road to the local shop in the early evening, we've got a problem. He has more rights than violent prisoners

Enough is enough.

Violent criminals- so far. As for accountability from the current administration- lol on that front.

If you need to worry that much about your kid going 10mins down the road, perhaps a serious look at society and proper investment in education is required. Lets be real though- kids don’t seem any safer in schools, and that remains a large American problem that no one has the balls to deal with. I won’t dabble into that considering the political issues that always come up.

 

[HoodWinked]

Seems like one of those slippery slopes I hear about.

Slippery slopes are in all directions. Doing nothing was also a choice for the past couple years.

 

[MagusMajul]

Send him Hunter

 

[Cyberpunkd]

When I have to worry about my child going ten minutes down the road to the local shop in the early evening, we've got a problem.

Are you from the US? Trust me, everyone being allowed to carry guns is a much larger danger than violent criminals (which is probably linked to gun anyway).

 

[MagusMajul]

Are you from the US? Trust me, everyone being allowed to carry guns is a much larger danger than violent criminals (which is probably linked to gun anyway).

I don't consider anyone who is against the 2nd A to be a real American

 

[Idleyes]

I do. And it's 'Violent' criminals. Who cares where their from

Send them to the moon for all I care.

But it all depends on what kind of society you want to live in. As long as there are checks and balances involved, is it really an issue? There has to be an infliction point for change because I don't know about you but I'm not personally happy about what is being allowed to carry on in our countries.

When I have to worry about my child going ten minutes down the road to the local shop in the early evening, we've got a problem. He has more rights than violent prisoners

Enough is enough.

What’s wild is how this kind of frustration gets misinterpreted as driven by nationalism and racism when, in reality, it’s just a rational response. I feel the same way about any country dealing with corrupt individuals, but oops, I don’t live there.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Violent criminals- so far.

And so far, it hasnt happend, till now. So why knock it.

As for accountability from the current administration- lol on that front.

As apposed by the last administration letting violent criminals and rapists run around amongst everyone? How's that working out?

If you need to worry that much about your kid going 10mins down the road, perhaps a serious look at society and proper investment in education is required. Lets be real though- kids don’t seem any safer in schools, and that remains a large American problem that no one has the balls to deal with. I won’t dabble into that considering the political issues that always come up.

Education education education. Again, how's that working out? Look around you, you can educate people to the eyeballs about not being a prat, it's not really working though..

You need deterrents. Not to mention its more a case of societal collapse. I and the school could teach my kid not to run around stabbing people, that's not going to stop some drip that's got zero to look forward to or job prospects doing that to him.

The whole system is screwed somewhat.

Are you from the US? Trust me, everyone being allowed to carry guns is a much larger danger than violent criminals (which is probably linked to gun anyway).

UK. How? There are quite a few states where owning or carrying is never a problem.

The 2nd amendment is not a bad thing.

What’s wild is how this kind of frustration gets misinterpreted as driven by nationalism and racism when, in reality, it’s just a rational response. I feel the same way about any country dealing with corrupt individuals, but oops, I don’t live there.

It's just a nonsense.

 

[Idleyes]

I don't consider anyone who is against the 2nd A to be a real American

There is truth to the argument that our gun rights are being exploited by criminals. Think about it, illegal guns were once legal before they ended up in the wrong hands. The Second Amendment isn’t going anywhere, and it shouldn’t, but perhaps (This is an extreme idea that I don’t endorse, just tossing something out there.) we should consider establishing local militias, independent from any government agency, run solely by citizens who take an oath to defend the Constitution from government tyranny. Those with firearms should undergo proper training, and anyone possessing firearms without such training and membership should be considered illegal, with consequences for unlawful possession. Consequences like if while in illegal possession of a firearm they're shot by a militia member, there's no trial just a burial.

All this, ignoring the fact that our little pew pews won't stand a chance against an M1 Abrams, an F-22 Raptor, or nukes.

 

[MagusMajul]

There is truth to the argument that our gun rights are being exploited by criminals. Think about it, illegal guns were once legal before they ended up in the wrong hands. The Second Amendment isn’t going anywhere, and it shouldn’t, but perhaps (This is an extreme idea that I don’t endorse, just tossing something out there.) we should consider establishing local militias, independent from any government agency, run solely by citizens who take an oath to defend the Constitution from government tyranny. Those with firearms should undergo proper training, and anyone possessing firearms without such training and membership should be considered illegal, with consequences for unlawful possession. Consequences like if while in illegal possession of a firearm they're shot by a militia member, there's no trial just a burial.

All this, ignoring the fact that our little pew pews won't stand a chance against an M1 Abrams, an F-22 Raptor, or nukes.

Perhaps but such militias can't be independent from the law. Some of them would be seditious; although i am not opposed to the idea.

 

[Ecotic]

This is such a bad idea in so many ways. You don't deport your own citizens to an extra-judicial outsourced prison in a tiny country starving for revenue.

This is like something you would add in as world-building when writing a new Robocop movie.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

The 2nd amendment is not a bad thing.

Let's just agree to disagree here - for me the 2nd amendment which was passed in 1791 was suitable to the times - people had to have the chance to protect themselves and their families because if you are a rancher with the nearest town 200km away and police doesn't exist you need to protect yourself and your family. I have no issue with that.
However in 21st century with a "well-functioning" (see next sentence) police force this is not necessary at all and makes people act like vigilantes.

Of course a separate problem in the US is the fact the police force doesn't have extensive training and attracts people on a power trips: https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-training-us-falls-short-compared-rest-world/story?id=96729748#:~:text=Police in Germany get 2.5,and violent crime suppression teams.

 

[mitch1971]

Nice

 

[HJuggernaut]

Good business. I wonder how much they're going to charge. If its like >20k a year its a big win for El Salvador's economy.

 

[Idleyes]

As apposed by the last administration letting violent criminals and rapists run around amongst everyone? How's that working out?

The last Administration actually deported more immigrants than the Administration before it.

 

[Doom85]

The last Administration actually deported more immigrants than the Administration before it.

Trump promises to do more, but the question I’ve heard he’s avoiding is how he intends to fund it.

Also, I love how just about border patrol officer and such I’ve seen interviewed throughout the years has said a wall was always a stupid fucking idea that would waste taxpayer’s money. To increase border security in a more financially efficient manner, they’ve said they need more personnel, more dogs, more cameras and other relevant equipment, etc. A wall, not so much.

Makes it seem like Trump put barely any thought into it other than, “well, China did it!”

Also, many illegal immigrants arrive by plane or boat. I’m curious how our Fearless Leader thought a wall was supposed to stop those.

 

[Alebrije]

Welcome to their new all included resort

 

[LordCBH]

Based

 

[diffusionx]

Is it really so hard to not post about politics?

This, I think NeoGAF because it doesn't have politics but people insist on posting about it here for some reason.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

If I was a country with violent criminals I’d take them up on the offer (assuming it’s legal).

When people say ship off jackasses to a deserted island, nobody ever thinks about who owns the island. And why would a foreign island want to take in any loser. It’s a vague idea nobody thinks about in detail.

But here we are with El Salvador willingly taken in prisoners for a fee. What a concept!

It turns out El Salvador was thinking this idea the whole time!

 

[AJUMP23]

If you go to an elsavadorian prison and don’t come back a reformed individual probably no hope for you.

I hope we start shipping them out.

Also shipping out prisoners worked great for Australia.

 

[MagusMajul]

This is such a bad idea in so many ways. You don't deport your own citizens to an extra-judicial outsourced prison in a tiny country starving for revenue.

This is like something you would add in as world-building when writing a new Robocop movie.

they are illegals not citizens

 

[MagusMajul]

Welcome to their new all included resort

they look happy in their natural enclosure

 

[AJUMP23]

Welcome to their new all included resort

Prison architect in real life.

 

[j0hnnix]

Welcome to their new all included resort

I watched the documentary on YouTube about this and how they are cleaning up the streets from gangs like MS13 , 18th Street etc.

Nayib is not messing around with this shit. He literally is having police go to the grave sites of these gang members and breaking down their headstones because he does not want anyone that has anything to do with these gangs to be remembered.

Found the video.

 

[Days like these...]

Everyday our dystopian world is realized a little more. Hang on to your butts

 

[Ecotic]

they are illegals not citizens

El Salvador's offer was to take any U.S. criminals, including U.S. citizens.

 

[EviLore]

Just got off the phone. We’re sending politics thread posters to El Salvador too