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Second time this fella gets nerfed. He got nerfed in the base game and once again as the DLC's final boss

Final Boss balance adjustments​

The following adjustments have been made to the final boss of “SHADOW OF THE ERDTREE”

• Changed the action pattern when the battle starts.
• Adjusted some attack moves.
• Decreased the damage of some attacks.
• Decreased stamina damage of some attacks.
• Decreased the attack range of some non-weapon-based attacks.
• Improved the visibility of some attack effects.

Further notes in the link.

Patch 1.14

Video of Ongbal showing the nerfs.

 

[Hohenheim]

So everyone who beats him from now on still needs to git gud?

 

[TintoConCasera]

That's lame, fight was cool as it was.

Glad to read about the improvements on visibility tho, was the only part that felt bad to me, too much light everywhere.

 

[lughnasadh123]

So he's just a shadow of his former self?

 

[LegendOfKage]

I hate difficulty adjustments that don't include the option to play the game as it was released.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Guess Im one of the few who beat him pre nerf, no summons, no cookie cutter shit. Whether he deserved the nerf or not, I dunno. DLC was utter garbage and I'll never touch it again either way.

 

[hemo memo]

So everyone who beats him from now on still needs to git gud?

Git gud or git another glitch.

 

[Bartski]

Poor guy can’t catch a break

 

[Kings Field]

Nothing wrong with the boss battle prior.

 

[V1LÆM]

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[Eszti]

soft gamers

 

[V1LÆM]

Deleted

 

[Madflavor]

Nobody has better data on players than FromSoftware themselves. If they nerfed the final boss this hard, then there must've been very little players who beat him, and without cheesing methods.

 

[Mephisto40]

Absalutley no shame here, beat him by being carried by 2 naked dragon magic dude summons

 

[kikkis]

Guess Im one of the few who beat him pre nerf, no summons, no cookie cutter shit. Whether he deserved the nerf or not, I dunno. DLC was utter garbage and I'll never touch it again either way.

Why didnt you like it?

 

[DAHGAMING]

Hes gone woke.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Why didnt you like it?

soulless. I can tell it wasnt made by the main team or if they did, it was without the care the base game had.

 

[U n i o n 0015]

Still can't address that shader compilation though.

 

[gaming_again]

Why didnt you like it?

It definitely missing something that's hard to pin down.

 

[SkylineRKR]

did they ever nerf Isshin in Sekiro? That dude was a nightmare and the hardest final boss I've ever fought.

I hope not. He was perfectly balanced. Its the best boss in the game, and perhaps the best From has ever done.

 

[Hrk69]

Guess Im one of the few who beat him pre nerf, no summons, no cookie cutter shit. Whether he deserved the nerf or not, I dunno. DLC was utter garbage and I'll never touch it again either way.

Why did you think the DLC was garbage?

I haven't played that much because it's a complete stutterfest on my PC.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Why did you think the DLC was garbage?

I haven't played that much because it's a complete stutterfest on my PC.

soulless. I can tell it wasnt made by the main team or if they did, it was without the care the base game had.

 

[Draugoth]

Dude was the first wall i've meet when facing Elden Ring in a while. Nearly impossible with a magic build

 

[DelireMan7]

Good change. Awful fight. Only boss in the entire Soulsborne franchise I haven't beat solo and I don't regret it a bit.

 

[Fake]

I hate difficulty adjustments that don't include the option to play the game as it was released.

They did this with base game Radan last time. Still, the DLC final boss is probably the lazy boss of the series.

 

[Tg89]

Lame. Fight was fine.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Dude was the first wall i've meet when facing Elden Ring in a while. Nearly impossible with a magic build

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Ash+of+War:+Ice+Spear

Only played once as an INT char and this pretty much carried me the entire game dlc included. Not sure if there are other great spells but I hated the comet and pretyy much 90% of all other spells tho to be fair I hate INT.

 

[tommib]

I beat this fucker but it was an absolute dreadful experience. I just got lucky at some point with summons and managed to stay alive. This boss represents everything I dislike from recent From software.

 

[R6Rider]

DLC was utter garbage and I'll never touch it again either way.

Gotta agree here. Huge disappointment and the only From DLC I'll probably never play through again.

 

[Bitstream]

Elden ring as a whole felt soulless compared to DS3, Bloodborne, and Sekiro. Being able to endlessly wander in all directions isn't exciting if it leads you to a copy-pasted dungeon.

 

[Fake]

The only thing the DLC did to me is to prove how fucking good the base game is. Played one time the DLC and never again.

 

[Draugoth]

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Ash+of+War:+Ice+Spear

Only played once as an INT char and this pretty much carried me the entire game dlc included. Not sure if there are other great spells but I hated the comet and pretyy much 90% of all other spells tho to be fair I hate INT.

I used an Ice Int Build. The problem is that he's so agressive that you cant cast spells

 

[Blindy]

Hate when FROM Software does this or really any Soulsbourne games do it. If people can't beat him properly then just summon, no shame in doing that.

I felt like Lies of P was sort of ruined a little for me because I didn't play it on launch and played it a year later where a couple of bosses got nerfed. Makes it feel like you're on a timer to finish their games where you run the risk of a different experience if you aren't playing the game within the 1st 2 months or so of release.

I did Radahn solo with the OP bleed build(That got nerfed shortly after) so I am glad I went at Erdtree ASAP.

 

[Fbh]

I don't mind this.
It's the first final boss in a From Souls game I just didn't find fun to fight. I'm glad I beat him but the idea of having to fight him again makes me not want to replay this DLC ever again.

 

[The Cockatrice]

I used an Ice Int Build. The problem is that he's so agressive that you cant cast spells

Pre-patch yes, I had like 1 chance to hit him with the spell every minute or so. You just need insane patience and survivability. Hit, wait for his 1 hour comb, hit, wait and repeat. First phase is easy. Second phase your best chance is when he starts casting the aoe, thats when you nuke him. with lightning res you can take the aoe hit, dont run from it. Even post patch I dont think you should run away from his massive aoe, just hit him with all you got then.

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

If you going to beat this boss now then you are not real player, and we are all ashamed of you, go play mobile games peasant.

 

[Antwix]

-Improved the visibility of some attack effects

This right here was the biggest issue. I don't think the other nerfs were necessary but I'm not sure how much they tweaked it. The hair/light effects were a bit over the top. Hopefully aside from the effects he wasn't nerfed too bad. It's supposed to be hard.

 

[Arsic]

Second time this fella gets nerfed. He got nerfed in the base game and once again as the DLC's final boss

Final Boss balance adjustments​

The following adjustments have been made to the final boss of “SHADOW OF THE ERDTREE”

• Changed the action pattern when the battle starts.
• Adjusted some attack moves.
• Decreased the damage of some attacks.
• Decreased stamina damage of some attacks.
• Decreased the attack range of some non-weapon-based attacks.
• Improved the visibility of some attack effects.

Further notes in the link.

Patch 1.14

I beat him on release.

No summons too. I’m a giga chad gamer eternally now.

 

[POKEYCLYDE]

For me was the hardest boss of the game, but I beat him like 2 weeks ago.

 

[Little Chicken]

I beat him a few weeks ago, I had to respec for the first time into a STR build, equipped the Verdigris Set, and Antspur Rapier, was like a cheat mode.

But yeah he needed a nerf in his second phase, his attack patterns are ridiculous.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Can they nerf Maliketh next please and thanks

 

[Metnut]

Please neef Messmr now too thanks.

 

[GametimeUK]

This fight destroyed me for a while whilst I learned it. Very rewarding in the end. I don't think the nerf is warranted, but I don't object to it either.

 

[finalflame]

It was always gonna happen. You can use fucking Torrent in the Elden Beast fight now ffs lol, and it has been generally nerfed since release.

FROM always does this -- if you want the true experience, you better play in the first month or two, max. The nerfhammer comes out thereafter.

 

[Pimpollo818]

Good. Radahn filtered us all at one point. I liked that he would often destroy me if the first thing you do is use summons.

 

[BennyBlanco]

It was always gonna happen. You can use fucking Torrent in the Elden Beast fight now ffs lol, and it has been generally nerfed since release.

FROM always does this -- if you want the true experience, you better play in the first month or two, max. The nerfhammer comes out thereafter.

Yea pre nerf Radahn fight was crazy and they made you earn that W. Now the fight is a breeze. Could also be just doing the fight so many times made it easier but I don’t think I ever died to him post patch.

 

[Bartski]

Mods please lock the git gud thread

 

[hlm666]

Improved the visibility of some attack effects.

This is actually something I struggled with, I even turned all the graphics to low at one point to see if it would help with the visual overload (it didn't really help) so i'm curious to see what they have done with this change.

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

Guess Im one of the few who beat him pre nerf, no summons, no cookie cutter shit. Whether he deserved the nerf or not, I dunno. DLC was utter garbage and I'll never touch it again either way.

soulless. I can tell it wasnt made by the main team or if they did, it was without the care the base game had.

Gotta agree here. Huge disappointment and the only From DLC I'll probably never play through again.

These takes seem so overblown. It's fine to take issue with the expansion, but to claim it as "utter garbage" and "soul-less" is crazy talk. Here are my gripes with it:

• Not enough interesting loot or rewards which led to some areas feeling very empty. Beautiful scenery, but not really much to do except ride through them.
• Related to above, the new weapon types, spells, incantations are cool, but there isn't enough. Some builds are arguably excluded because of stat level requirements and odd scaling.
• General feeling of being unfinished and some loose plot threads, especially with regards to Godwyn and major bosses missing cinematics.
• Some (read: not all) crappy, over-tuned boss design.
• Some shitty performance and still lacking modern features (DLSS, ultrawide support), but albeit wonderful art design as usual.
• Anticlimactic ending with very little new lore to chew on.

Half of these things are par for the course with FromSoftware. Take into consideration that they made a brand new open world game with about the same amount of content as a Souls game in a little over 2 years, it's quite remarkable what they managed to pull off (warts and all). I can't take these opinions seriously.

 

[The Cockatrice]

These takes seem so overblown. It's fine to take issue with the expansion, but to claim it as "utter garbage" and "soul-less" is crazy talk. Here are my gripes with it:

• Not enough interesting loot or rewards which led to some areas feeling very empty. Beautiful scenery, but not really much to do except ride through them.
• Related to above, the new weapon types, spells, incantations are cool, but there isn't enough. Some builds are arguably excluded because of stat level requirements and odd scaling.
• General feeling of being unfinished and some loose plot threads, especially with regards to Godwyn and major bosses missing cinematics.
• Some (read: not all) crappy, over-tuned boss design.
• Some shitty performance and still lacking modern features (DLSS, ultrawide support), but albeit wonderful art design as usual.
• Anticlimactic ending with very little new lore to chew on.

Half of these things are par for the course with FromSoftware. Take into consideration that they made a brand new open world game with about the same amount of content as a Souls game in a little over 2 years, it's quite remarkable what they managed to pull off (warts and all). I can't take these opinions seriously.

Nothing crazy when you take into consideration that I gave ER a 7. You can imagine the dlc being much worse, what I'd rate it. Nothing crazy about it.