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[Draugoth]

Game is going to be more immersive, with fast loading times

• Game takes place in Hammerfell and High Rock
• Game will have naval battles, ship building (inspired by Starfield) and marine/underwater exploration, explorable islands off coast.
• Dragons will return
• Game is set to have 12-13 big cities
• Progression system is much more flexible, abandoning classes for a natural progression, better combat.
• Game to have Fortress and Village building alongside settlement building.
• Game could be shown in July 2025

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[bitbydeath]

I hope not.
I’d rather a single island with lots of detail.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Thank you for the better combat. Maybe this will be the first one I don't drop.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I can't imagine how the Creation Engine will be in 2028 or whenever but I'll give Bethesda a chance to surprise me

 

[adamsapple]

Eh .. feels like way too early for these kind of details for a game that isn't coming out for 3, 4 more years.

I don't expect this to be shown this year at all.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Game will have naval battles, ship building and marine (underwater) exploration inspired by Starfield, explorable islands

Marine exploration inspired by Starfield..? Which has no marine exploration? Or could it mean the islands..? Either way doesn't make much sense.

Progression system is much more flexible, abandoning classes for a natural progression, better combat.

They already abandoned classes.. how much further can they be abandoned? Awful to hear they are doubling down on this and moving farther from an RPG.

Game to have Fortress and Village building alongside settlement building.

Sigh. This is not sounding great.

 

[Kacho]

Progression system is much more flexible, abandoning classes for a natural progression, better combat.

Classes were already abandoned in Skyrim. Are we sure this dude isn't pulling stuff out of his ass with his rumors?

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Classes were already abandoned in Skyrim. Are we sure this dude isn't pulling stuff out of his ass with his rumors?

Hope so.

 

[darrylgorn]

Progression system is much more flexible, abandoning classes

 

[bitbydeath]

Classes were already abandoned in Skyrim. Are we sure this dude isn't pulling stuff out of his ass with his rumors?

???
Isn’t classes the character breeds. Eg. Orc, Imperial etc?

 

[Fess]

Game could be shown in July 2025

Woah! They never show anything unless it’s close to release. But I don’t think they moved into full production on TES6 until after the Starfield release in 2023, so seems doubtful that they’re doing it that way this time in that case. Maybe they want community input for the final stretch?

 

[Metnut]

Please no level scaling

 

[Puscifer]

"Progression system is much more flexible, abandoning classes for a natural progression, better combat."


This has been the case since Oblivion, your starting class is basically irrelevant since everyone ends up as a spellsword eventually.

 

[Sebastian1295]

It'll be a game that's underbaked on release and expected to be carried by modders just like they always do. It'll look and run like a game from the 360 era and will have garbage writing, because the next time bethesda writes a competent story will be the first time. They'll bank off skyrim fanboys to carry water for them in hopes that it covers up the stench that this underbaked turd will end up being.

 

[ssringo]

with fast loading times

I don't care how fast the load times are if there's one every time I open a fucking door.

 

[Kacho]

???
Isn’t classes the character breeds. Eg. Orc, Imperial etc?

"Character breeds" wtf...

No, Orc/Imperial/Nord are races. A class would be Knight/Mage/Thief. Classes in TES haven't been a thing since Oblivion.

 

[Shubh_C63]

Game will have naval battles, ship building (inspired by Starfield) and marine/underwater exploration, explorable islands off coast.

This is the first thing that seems truly unique for TES6 and I am not at all convinced Bethesda can make this good.
It would be tedious.

 

[Sebastian1295]

This is the first thing that seems truly unique for TES6 and I am not at all convinced Bethesda can make this good.
It would be tedious.

If it's inspired by starfield then it'll be trash. Space exploration in starfield is underbaked crap and they hyped it up like it was going to be revolutionary before release.

 

[Loomy]

• Game could be shown in July 2025

Doubtful

Woah! They never show anything unless it’s close to release. But I don’t think they moved into full production on TES6 until after the Starfield release in 2023, so seems doubtful that they’re doing it that way this time in that case. Maybe they want community input for the final stretch?

Technically they teased/showed something they called ES6 over 7 years ago now.

 

[March Climber]

Hey GAF, does this game's title technically count on the list of "_______Fall" ?

 

[LordCBH]

Ship building? Say no more fam, I’m in.

 

[R3TRO]

Sounds like shit.

 

[GHG]

If this is true then they are doubling down on all the worst aspects of skyrim, fallout and Starfield.

 

[Fess]

Technically they teased/showed something they called ES6 over 7 years ago now.

That was more like a teaser calming fans that they’re at least working on it. I think it was in pre-production with just a small core team all the way up to the final phase for Starfield close to release. Can’t see this release until 2027 at the earliest tbh, would mean 3 years of full production and 1 year of polish when it’s playable start to finish, and that would be fast.

 

[demigod]

Ship building and underwater exploration, dude is pulling fake rumors from his ass. Highly doubt they will show anything if at all in July.

 

[gamerEMdoc]

Basebuilding! Build my own ship! Oh please oh please I hope they add procedural generated areas and quests so they hit for the cycle and have all the things I hate about their most recent games.

 

[Shubh_C63]

How good/bad was the under water exploration in Horizon FW ? Just for comparison.

If they could cram 30% of Subnautica in their game that would be worth it then. Janky, but fun.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Of course it's on Hammerfell.

 

[coachmcguirk91]

Eh .. feels like way too early for these kind of details for a game that isn't coming out for 3, 4 more years.

I don't expect this to be shown this year at all.

Yeah, I agree. It is alarming if this game comes out before 2028. Bethesda needs to be given the time to actually cook

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Having just finished Fallout 4, I will ask Bethesda this ….. why change gameplay loop in practically all your games??

Fallout 3 -> 4 is such a shift it catches practically everyone off guard.

 

[iQuasarLV]

Looks like a wish list on scope creep.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

Just what I always wanted in an Elder Scrolls game, settlement building.

 

[Bry0]

I figured it would happen and here it is. Not really an rpg in the traditional sense anymore imo.

 

[Loomy]

That was more like a teaser calming fans that they’re at least working on it. I think it was in pre-production with just a small core team all the way up to the final phase for Starfield close to release. Can’t see this release until 2027 at the earliest tbh, would mean 3 years of full production and 1 year of polish when it’s playable start to finish, and that would be fast.

Based on what's happened since, it was more a teaser to court investors. We realized the financial situation Zenimax was in at the time.

And yeah, this game - with the scope rumored here - is end of gen release at this point.

 

[March Climber]

Of course it's on Hammerfell.

I already know where this is going (and the future threads it will cause) but the Hammerfell rumor has been literally multiple years old, like as far back as 2016-2017.

It's everything else that is actually new information (Including the High Rock mention).

 

[JimmyRustler]

How can anyone have hope for this after their progression from Oblivion - Fallout 3 - Skyrim - Fallout 4 - Starfield…. The arrow one where they’re going and what they are aiming for is pointing in one direction only… and that doesn’t say “unique and great RPG”.

 

[bender]

Can't wait to see how they further dumb down the RPG elements.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

 

[March Climber]

How can anyone have hope for this after their progression from Oblivion - Fallout 3 - Skyrim - Fallout 4 - Starfield….

One big reason why I will most likely enjoy this more than Starfield is the simple fact that there is only one planet, which means one overworld, which means waaaay less loading screens (outside of houses). They should never, ever do space again until they find a fix for that glaring issue.

 

[VideoGameEnjoyer]

How can anyone have hope for this after their progression from Oblivion - Fallout 3 - Skyrim - Fallout 4 - Starfield…. The arrow one where they’re going and what they are aiming for is pointing in one direction only… and that doesn’t say “unique and great RPG”.

Pretty much how I feel. I can already picture all of those mechanics with that same Bethesda engine and I’m just not into it. I bought in on Starfield after that showcase presentation and got burned hard. So an additional skepticism barrier will be up here.


But would absolutely love to be surprised and blown away by a new Elder Scrolls all these years later, as basically a middle aged man, after the hype for and release of Skyrim was such a huge thing for my high school self.

 

[Nickolaidas]

I already know where this is going (and the future threads it will cause) but the Hammerfell rumor has been literally multiple years old, like as far back as 2016-2017.

It's everything else that is actually new information (Including the High Rock mention).

I know. But it's not like the wheels weren't set in motion back then, were they? TDS was already happening back then.

The truth is that they could've given us Black Marsh, give us the Elder Scrolls take on Jurassic Park, or go to kitty land with endless sands and give us an Elder Scrolls spin on Dune, make us feel like they're daring as they were back in Morrowind.

But no, let's go with yet another generic setting where we can have a 'lore accurate' reason of having 85% of the cast being black people without fear of being accused of pushing DEI. (Rumors and public statements DO indicate they're being smarter about this) Sure, it COULD be a coincidence, but it will work against them nonetheless.

How can anyone have hope for this after their progression from Oblivion - Fallout 3 - Skyrim - Fallout 4 - Starfield…. The arrow one where they’re going and what they are aiming for is pointing in one direction only… and that doesn’t say “unique and great RPG”.

It's going to be shit, and I won't even bother. Even if they hadn't gone full woke, Bethesda's quality levels are extremely disappointing to me now.

No, their games crushing every two minutes is not cute anymore, their main quests are not original anymore, their NPCs are still planks of wood and their engine is an archaic, ultra patched, frankenstein level piece of dogshit.

Thanks.

I'll pass.

 

[Ammogeddon]

Fast load times? I want no load times.

 

[March Climber]

I know. But it's not like the wheels weren't set in motion back then, were they? TDS was already happening back then.

The truth is that they could've given us Black Marsh, give us the Elder Scrolls take on Jurassic Park, or go to kitty land with endless sands and give us an Elder Scrolls spin on Dune, make us feel like they're daring as they were back in Morrowind.

But no, let's go with yet another generic setting where we can have a 'lore accurate' reason of having 85% of the cast being black people without fear of being accused of pushing DEI. (Rumors and public statements DO indicate they're being smarter about this) Sure, it COULD be a coincidence, but it will work against them nonetheless.

You're essentially funneling a nearly-decade old rumor's reasoning to line up perfectly with your own modern day theory.

We will never know why Todd Howard (or potentially one of the other directors) might have whispered Hammerfell around the offices all those years ago if this rumor ends up true. Hell, they could have been inspired by Assassin's Creed Origins which was also announced around the time this rumor popped up back then, or maybe they wanted a polar opposite hot environment after the previous game took place in a cold one.

If you want to try and package it all together under DEI neatly with a bow and ribbon, I guess it is what it is, as I won't bother getting into arguments over this stuff anymore. I just personally like to consider more than just one singular cause behind every effect.

 

[Gonzito]

Will Todd howard insert himself as an npc? And if that's the case, will we be able to have sex with him as the player?

 

[Shubh_C63]

Fast load times? I want no load times.

While whole AAA industry is hiding loading times with corridors, Bethesda is travelling backwards in time.

 

[Nickolaidas]

You're essentially funneling a nearly-decade old rumor's reasoning to line up perfectly with your own modern day theory.

We will never know why Todd Howard (or potentially one of the other directors) might have whispered Hammerfell around the offices all those years ago if this rumor ends up true. Hell, they could have been inspired by Assassin's Creed Origins which was also announced around the time this rumor popped up back then, or maybe they wanted a polar opposite hot environment after the previous game took place in a cold one.

If you want to try and package it all together under DEI neatly with a bow and ribbon, I guess it is what it is, as I won't bother getting into arguments over this stuff anymore. I just personally like to consider more than just one singular cause behind every effect.

Like I said, I'm not denying the possibility that you are right and Hammerfell is what they honestly wanted to make, years ago.

But in the end, it doesn't matter. Bethesda is a dev team which makes 2008 games in 2025. They're creatively stuck, and I'm moving on.

 

[V1LÆM]

I can’t get excited after Starfield. They just keep releasing the same old broken shit every time.

 

[Thebonehead]

As long as the ship building is optional and not integral to progression I'm fine with that.

Never did any of the base building stuff in fallout 4, or any of the ship customisation in Starfield.

There are people that it caters for that love that.

Naval battles could be boring though. I found the battles in Starfield a yawn fest

 

[Icymanipulator]

My love for both Oblivion and Skyrim means I will give this game the benefit of the doubt, even with Bethesdas shitty track record recently.

Plz be good. Plz

 

[DragonNCM]

Grate.....another procedural generated mess with loading times every 3 minutes.....