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FINAL FANTASY XVI |OT| Ifrit Bleeds We Can Kill It

Are you playing in Quality or Performance mode?

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Perfo

Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I wouldn't touch the in-game slider. it's just classic brightness...youtubers use it when someone says "too dark" or when they have monitors badly calibrated lol.
The game just looks this way. I am personally playing with DTM and ps5 calibration also done with DTM(I know, blasphemy). Everything is brighter.
The orignal look with hgig calibration and using hgig is more toned down but effects and spells do pop more like that. Everything is just a bit too dark aside from spells.

the gamingtech guy does some good work but he always touches the sliders. If there are sliders, he will mess with them needlessly without understanding that maybe the game is made to look this way. Lowering slider to 2 and enabling dtm or other means to achieve more contrasts will make some scenes look good but ruin others.
I moved the brightness down to 4, just a matter of preference. Btw now that I recalibrated ps5 hdr settings with 11 11 0 clicks looks marvellous 🤩

Back to the game just wow, this one is full of those classic FF franchise moments. Peaking actually!
 
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Lokaum D+

Member
you and me both, that’s why V and XII place at the top 2 for me. Both of these games introduced an impeccable job system or gameplay philosophy compared to the rest of the series.


EPIC. Absolute epic (in the Greek sense) the Eikons are.
Typhon in the flesh from a black hole once the Crystal shatters. Just like FF.

Final form Typhon is sexy af.
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Amazing reference

Eikons fight open up big time in Typhon fight
 
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Zheph

Member
Once you get
the third Eikon
you can easily stagger and absolutely blow monsters if you manage well your combo, very satisfying
 
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I moved the brightness down to 4, just a matter of preference. Btw now that I recalibrated ps5 hdr settings with 11 11 0 clicks looks marvellous 🤩

Back to the game just wow, this one is full of those classic FF franchise moments. Peaking actually!
What is 11 11 0 clicks with ps5 hdr setting : D?
 
This whole thing is a spoiler for after a certain point in the game. I don't normally feel like I need to warn for spoilers since the text is obviously spoilered for a reason but I get it, some of you can't help yourselves.

Apparently the FFXVI team looked at FFXV and were like fuck, the only way we can one-up that game having a time skip is to have TWO TIME SKIPS

I wish they would do something about when you're in Limit Break. The whole screen gets covered in orange flames, and you're also on fire, and all your attacks have huge fire trails. It becomes really annoying trying to just see the boss and dodge attacks because the whole screen is fucking orange.
 
I have to respect FFXVI, it feels like the goal of this game is to one-up every single thing in every previous FF game ever and then also one-up itself over and over. The whole game is an absolute spectacle, everything is big. The story is big, the summons are big, the bosses are big, the cutscenes are big, even the story twists are big. The team's entire decision process seemed to revolve around "how can we make this bigger? is this big enough? I don't think it's big enough, we can make it bigger"
 

Perfo

Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
What is 11 11 0 clicks with ps5 hdr setting : D?
There’s an HDR bug in the game apparently and while is true FF16 uses ps5 system setting to output HDR it doesn’t do it properly so the usual setting doesn’t go well here. This one explains it very quickly at the beginning but it’s tricky and it’s based on your tv model the amount of clicks to be done. And again it applies only to ff16 for all the other games you have to revert to the proper setup. Might be patched too eventually.

 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
There’s an HDR bug in the game apparently and while is true FF16 uses ps5 system setting to output HDR it doesn’t do it properly so the usual setting doesn’t go well here. This one explains it very quickly at the beginning but it’s tricky and it’s based on your tv model the amount of clicks to do to have to properly. And again it applies only to ff16 for all the other games you have to revert to the proper setup


There is absolutely no difference between 11 and 14 clicks. It only affects highlights and at least lg tvs can handle mapping 4000 nits. That’s what dtm is for.

In fact this might not even be a bug. The nits in this game mostly only affects particle effects and light sources. 14 being more than in system settings might just be to add a tiny bit more pop.
I controversially play with dtm and I calibrated with dtm in system settings
 

Perfo

Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
There is absolutely no difference between 11 and 14 clicks. It only affects highlights and at least lg tvs can handle mapping 4000 nits. That’s what dtm is for.

In fact this might not even be a bug. The nits in this game mostly only affects particle effects and light sources. 14 being more than in system settings might just be to add a tiny bit more pop.
I controversially play with dtm and I calibrated with dtm in system settings
I don’t play with DTM but HGIG and it seems to pop up a bit more now than before without going to the exaggerating of DTM. But we’re really talking of nitpicking here nothing substantial really. Game is fine regardless of the settings.
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
I don’t play with DTM but HGIG and it seems to pop up a bit more now than before without going to the exaggerating of DTM. But we’re really talking of nitpicking here nothing substantial really. Game is fine regardless of the settings.
Yeah as I’ve said earlier. Dtm pops the whole image more, hgig keeps the image relatively dim but really pops the effects. So it’s a preference.
I always look at the dtm mode as the cheat mode that uses all of my tv :p
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Btw. This is my new game to champion 30fps. It was uncharted 4 before and even bloodborne despite some stutter.

This game is stable 30, no framepacing stutters and still got a very low input lag. Perfection. Compare it to demons souls 30fps mode and it feels like demons souls got a whole second of delay. Here it’s all instant.
That and fantastic motion blur quality. Yeah a bit heavy but I like it. It looks especially insane on the enemy turtles spinning or the big hammer guys swinging. The per object motion blur is the best since lost planet.

I realised yesterday after whole day session, 2am… I couldn’t see 30fps judder even when I wanted. I got used to it and it’s not been so easy this gen or possible due to terrible 30 input lag and no motion blur.
Again, of course 60 would be way smoother if I switched now but my brain and eyes got so accommodated to 30 in this game, it looks perfectly fine.

People really don’t give their brains enough of a credit. I once went from 240hz 1080p to 4k30 and even then I Was able to get used to it without noticing jarring 30. Just give it a good chance.
 
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FoxMcChief

Gold Member
Btw. This is my new game to champion 30fps. It was uncharted 4 before and even bloodborne despite some stutter.

This game is stable 30, no framepacing stutters and still got a very low input lag. Perfection. Compare it to demons souls 30fps mode and it feels like demons souls got a whole second of delay. Here it’s all instant.
That and fantastic motion blur quality. Yeah a bit heavy but I like it. It looks especially insane on the enemy turtles spinning or the big hammer guys swinging. The per object motion blur is the best since lost planet.

I realised yesterday after whole day session, 2am… I couldn’t see 30fps judder even when I wanted. I got used to it and it’s not been so easy this gen or possible due to terrible 30 input lag and no motion blur.
Again, of course 60 would be way smoother if I switched now but my brain and eyes got so accommodated to 30 in this game, it looks perfectly fine.

People really don’t give their brains enough of a credit. I once went from 240hz 1080p to 4k30 and even then I Was able to get used to it without noticing jarring 30. Just give it a good chance.
Yup. 30fps gets a bad rap. This game does it very well. At first I was ready to kick and scream about the motion blur, but then my brain allowed me to get used to it, and now it’s very much welcomed.

FF16 is a striking visual game. I tried the frame rate mode for a few battles and there was just too much given up visually to make a super unstable 40+ frame rate.

Graphics mode in this game should be default.
 
Holy FUCK the fight against Clive’s shadow was EPIC as fuck!
The actual titan fight in the cave and everything that follows, I'm just, no words. That is the most epic thing in a game ever. So far. This is the first game in a long time where I feel like it just couldn't be done on last gen machines. That includes everything from the graphics to the ridiculous set pieces.
 

Boneless

Member
I am not planning to do any side quests, but I do want to max out gear/abilities to achieve max power before finishing. Are for example any superweapons tied behind side quests?
 
I am not planning to do any side quests, but I do want to max out gear/abilities to achieve max power before finishing. Are for example any superweapons tied behind side quests?
There is gonna be a sidequest you're going to want to do involving hunts (when they unlock, you'll know) and the Blacksmith.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
I have to say - I don't like the 2nd costume you get. All that's missing is chest hair lol.
You look like dracula
 

Whitecrow

Banned
There’s an HDR bug in the game apparently and while is true FF16 uses ps5 system setting to output HDR it doesn’t do it properly so the usual setting doesn’t go well here. This one explains it very quickly at the beginning but it’s tricky and it’s based on your tv model the amount of clicks to be done. And again it applies only to ff16 for all the other games you have to revert to the proper setup. Might be patched too eventually.


There's nothing wrong with HDR in the game.

Another story is that for any reason you dont like the approach to lighting and brightness in this game, which is fine, but there's nothing wrong with the HDR implementation.
 

Shifty1897

Member
Found a reference to “chocobo stew”. Thats disgusting. Aren’t they supposed to be the equivalent of horses? Oh god.
I found the same reference last night and was surprised only because chocobos are beloved in FF games. It'd be like finding Pikachu Stew in a Pokemon game.

But yes horse is consumed in a lot of countries, some first world ones even.
 

Mayar

Member
Played the first 5-6 hours so far. As an action game, pretty well done, as a game in the Final Fantasy series it's the death of the franchise.As I understand the Square enix have come to the conclusion that RPGs don't sell well and don't make a profit, so a fully linear action game is a recipe for success.
 

zkorejo

Member
The world the characters the story and ofcourse Clive as the main character are all top notch. I am still unsure of a few things that happened but alot happened till the final fantasy logo appeared. Now I'm at the hideaway and I have alot to digest and a few things to figure out.

Early on spoilers, if anyone can help me understand it would be highly appreciated.

Is Clive's mother real mother to Joshua and step mother to Clive, Or is she just a proper bitch?

Im still unsure wtf I just witnessed, the second Eikon that kills Joshua/Phoenix came from Clive? It certainly felt that way but I'm not sure. If the second Eikon was indeed Clive, did he possess his body or did Clive transform into something?

Clive's mother Annabelle is the one who defected the duchy helped penetrate the army? Wtf is a holy empire? Why did she kill her own husband and favorite son. Am I supposed to be confused about this or am I just dumb/not paying attention?
 

Koenigssee

Member
The world the characters the story and ofcourse Clive as the main character are all top notch. I am still unsure of a few things that happened but alot happened till the final fantasy logo appeared. Now I'm at the hideaway and I have alot to digest and a few things to figure out.

Early on spoilers, if anyone can help me understand it would be highly appreciated.

Is Clive's mother real mother to Joshua and step mother to Clive, Or is she just a proper bitch?

Im still unsure wtf I just witnessed, the second Eikon that kills Joshua/Phoenix came from Clive? It certainly felt that way but I'm not sure. If the second Eikon was indeed Clive, did he possess his body or did Clive transform into something?

Clive's mother Annabelle is the one who defected the duchy helped penetrate the army? Wtf is a holy empire? Why did she kill her own husband and favorite son. Am I supposed to be confused about this or am I just dumb/not paying attention?
Keep playing bro these questions will be answered by the time you reach 3/4 length of the story. This stuff is confusing on purpose.
 
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Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
The world the characters the story and ofcourse Clive as the main character are all top notch. I am still unsure of a few things that happened but alot happened till the final fantasy logo appeared. Now I'm at the hideaway and I have alot to digest and a few things to figure out.

Early on spoilers, if anyone can help me understand it would be highly appreciated.

Is Clive's mother real mother to Joshua and step mother to Clive, Or is she just a proper bitch?

Im still unsure wtf I just witnessed, the second Eikon that kills Joshua/Phoenix came from Clive? It certainly felt that way but I'm not sure. If the second Eikon was indeed Clive, did he possess his body or did Clive transform into something?

Clive's mother Annabelle is the one who defected the duchy helped penetrate the army? Wtf is a holy empire? Why did she kill her own husband and favorite son. Am I supposed to be confused about this or am I just dumb/not paying attention?
Clive’s mother only cares about that her bloodline that can produce dominance and she saw Clive as failure and embarrassment for her bloodline because Phoenix rejected him

As for other questions you find out when progress the story.
 

Markio128

Member
Is there anyone else not using any charms/trinkets? I’m a little confused with them tbh - I’m not sure if they are all meant to be ‘easy mode’ or just the initial ones you start the game with. I’m doing okay without any so far, but what’s the general consensus?
 

GymWolf

Member
You people should really put shit in spoilers for people who doesn't play 10 hours per day like some of you.

now i know that clive get multiple eikons so he has the ability to somehow suck eikons from dominants, first big spoiler that is not hinted at all where i'm in the story,but this was kinda impossible to hide since multiple eikons are a gameplay mechanic, but multiple people also named the fucking ramuh that now i know being the eikon of cid so i already know that i'm gonna fight cid at a certain point or i'm gonna get his eikon in some way

Put your shit in spoiler people, the plot is a big part of why i'm playing this game ffs.
 
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There’s an HDR bug in the game apparently and while is true FF16 uses ps5 system setting to output HDR it doesn’t do it properly so the usual setting doesn’t go well here.
I don’t think there is any “bug”. It just sounds like some people are not calibrating properly. You don’t need a 7 minute YouTube video to explain it or to consult a chart. On the PS5 HDR calibration, you should adjust until the icon disappears, then click it one step back, so it reappears. The on-screen instructions are misleading.
 

phant0m

Member
Is there anyone else not using any charms/trinkets? I’m a little confused with them tbh - I’m not sure if they are all meant to be ‘easy mode’ or just the initial ones you start the game with. I’m doing okay without any so far, but what’s the general consensus?
Yes they are meant as difficulty adjustments. I do use the one that makes Torgal automatically do stuff so I don’t have to order him around.

I also use the pre-order bonus ones that give you +exp and +gil
 

phant0m

Member
The world the characters the story and ofcourse Clive as the main character are all top notch. I am still unsure of a few things that happened but alot happened till the final fantasy logo appeared. Now I'm at the hideaway and I have alot to digest and a few things to figure out.

Early on spoilers, if anyone can help me understand it would be highly appreciated.

Is Clive's mother real mother to Joshua and step mother to Clive, Or is she just a proper bitch?

Im still unsure wtf I just witnessed, the second Eikon that kills Joshua/Phoenix came from Clive? It certainly felt that way but I'm not sure. If the second Eikon was indeed Clive, did he possess his body or did Clive transform into something?

Clive's mother Annabelle is the one who defected the duchy helped penetrate the army? Wtf is a holy empire? Why did she kill her own husband and favorite son. Am I supposed to be confused about this or am I just dumb/not paying attention?
  1. She is both their real mother, just a proper cunt.
  2. As to not spoil — I’ll just say no and leave it at that.
  3. Yes, for her own pursuit of power (also see #1). She didn’t intend for Joshua to die, it was just an accident.
 
Waaaay too many unmarked spoilers, mods need to pull out the ban hammer ASAP. Screenshots, story beats, boss names, locations...

I'm happy to see so many loving the game though, Yoshi P did right by the franchise and deserves all the praise in the world 👌
 

Myths

Member
I truly wish they would have incorporated more puzzles and gimmicks into the level design. I’d love to have seen spells outside of battle have use just like in some old FFs, no matter how sparingly.

Spells like
  • Float to avoid traps and move across ravaged bridges and terrain
  • Vanish for stealth and preemptive. The magicians (astrologers etc.) wouldn't be susceptible to this and would use Dispel to remove the status effect from the player.
  • Ice/Fire for certain terrain traversal or to reduce area effects of some levels (Freezing/Heat).
  • Thunder to power mysterious relics and mechanisms which control various platforms
  • Haste for faster movement or Slow to manipulate object/subject movement if Time is a part of the puzzle
Would have been something else to see but they likely kept it simple such that consistent action is maintained.

There’s a part where
Jill summons the essence of Shiva to temporarily halt the Lava flow splitting a bridge. She summons stacks of Ice to obstruct the flow as she and Clive quickly cross before it’s melted.
 
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Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Is there anyone else not using any charms/trinkets? I’m a little confused with them tbh - I’m not sure if they are all meant to be ‘easy mode’ or just the initial ones you start the game with. I’m doing okay without any so far, but what’s the general consensus?

Rings are easy mode. The other thingies you find/buy are fair game imo
 

Flabagast

Member
I've never taken the Ring of Do It Yourself Torgal off since I put it on. I originally only put it on because I didn't want to deal with micromanaging him during combat but yes he automatically has perfect timing Sics and Ravages, much better than a human probably could with the default control mapping. Against bosses it's just a bit more DPS really, as you are doing 90%+ of the breaking yourself at worst. Against small enemies it's fun when he launches them and you follow with Phoenix Shift to air combo them.
It makes the combat much easier though because a well timed charge of the dog can cancel « unescapable grab » attacks from bosses which do massive damage. And it does it very often when you put the dog ring on
 
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