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First look at DCU’s Lanterns on HBO MAX
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DeafTourette
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GymWolf
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One of the most underrated actors ever.
Werewolf Jones
Member
At first just the Ring pic loaded and I was like "You gotta be fucking joking."
Honestly hoping for the best with this one.
Honestly hoping for the best with this one.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Reizo Ryuu
Member
That guy for stewart? I've never liked him anything.
old man jordan could be good.
old man jordan could be good.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Is this gonna be the usual modern story where the old white dude teach to the better in everything young black dude and get lectured by him?
I can soooo see that
James Gunn is behind it. I doubt that.
And that's not a common trope, I don't think.
GymWolf
Member
Last gunn movie i saw gave me anal crabs so i don't really think of him as a guarantee of quality at all tbh.
March Climber
Member
It could end up being the typical Morpheus and Neo situation, but I'm hoping it's more of a Lethal Weapon situation.Is this gonna be the usual modern story where the old white dude teach to the better in everything young black dude and get lectured by him?
I can soooo see that
GymWolf
Member
I have no faith in good storytelling from current marvel but i'm probably gonna watch it just for chandler.
Doom85
Member
Green Lantern is DC.
GymWolf
Member
So maybe there is hope, althought the last dc movie i saw was probably justice league and it was dogwater.
Soodanim
Member
As always I want this to be good, but I'm not overly enthusiastic. MCU's decline came partially with their insistence on TV shows. Perhaps it was just coincidence, but the lower budget of shows doesn't necessarily lend itself to this sort of content - especially Green Lantern which has to be heavily CGI.
But as always the final product's quality is what matters, and we've had both good and bad superhero series.
But as always the final product's quality is what matters, and we've had both good and bad superhero series.
I can't imagine there will be a lot of 'generational" humor/discussion in the show, it's not like the Chandler character is super old or somehow removed from modern life. Maybe some "Ok, boomer" stuff but Kyle is only 60, so I'm not sure it would play well.
I'd much rather there be mutual respect from the get-go and there not be any culture or generational clashing. Stick to Stewart having to learn alien mannerisms or something rather than Jordan being taught to twerk, how to tweet, or navigate a rastafarian drug den or whatever. Basically Men in Black with a less jokey Will Smith character and more empathetic Agent K.
Werewolf Jones
Member
I didn't know Kyle Chandler was so popular. lol.
Space Runaway
Member
Damn get a jacket with proper length sleeves.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Why is he wearing the ring on his knuckle? How does he bend his finger?
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
You know, seeing Aaron Pierre in the OP just now ... Makes me understand why so many black folks were upset with his casting. John Stewart was darker skinned in the comics and the toons... It "feels" like black erasure in favor of a lighter skinned, more aesthetically pleasing color for "larger" audiences.
But he's the John Stewart we have so ... Gotta accept it.
But he's the John Stewart we have so ... Gotta accept it.
March Climber
Member
Men in Black is actually closer to the thing you're describing that you don't want, that's why I think Lethal Weapon 1 would be a better way to go about it instead. Instead of a mentor/student situation, Riggs and Murtaugh were essentially equals but had their own ways of doing police work. They learned over time to respect, compromise, and trust each other to get the job done.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
I saw the black guy in some movie and he had that superhero look over him. Very good casting choice.
I dunno, in MiB most of the humor (and i'm not sure this Lantern show is a comedy or not) was about the "newcomer" dealing with alien stuff. You need that newcomer to be the audience surrogate and ask questions, so I gotta think Stewart is going to be new to the Corps, if not recruited in the first ep, so he can be the set up for exposition. No way they can have two relatively experienced Lanterns because then they can't do info dumps for the lore (unless there is a local cop lady involved as well).
I'm curious if we are gonna see big green boxing gloves and hammers, or if it will be more abstract glowy green shapes. Or a Michael Bay-style super complicated nanite shape shifting mass. I'm hoping for the former, but depends on the tone they are going for.
March Climber
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While that's mostly true, you're forgetting a lot of scenes where Will's character was acting in an arrogant or brash manner, and would even insult K and K's boss at times. J had a character growth arc which is why he was much more relatable in the end. Even from me saying all of this, I don't dislike any of what we just brought up, as that's something you have to contend with since you dislike it lol.
I'm torn about this. I think there are two ways to treat this: As a detective movie first and foremost with bits of lore and exposition from the case and environment itself that drives the plot forward (which was the James Gunn pitch for it way back when he revealed his whole DCU plan), or the typical 'starter hero' audience surrogate.
I'm hoping for the former as I always enjoy movies more when I'm simply put into a world with a bunch of questions and theories about how it works, rather than all of it's concepts being overly explained to me. It tends to work well with sci-fi the most.
If the Lantern aspects are relatively light (he isn't/can't using the ring to open his bottle of beer, there are no big ring assisted fights with tentacled aliens, the lantern recharge/oath only comes up once or twice) then I think you are correct, they can sprinkle it in almost like an episode of x-files. But even if this is happening in a world where the DC hero pantheon is in full swing already it's hard to imagine they won't need to explain how the Corps works. A local lady cop makes the most sense I suppose, and they will feel a strong need to have women talking in the show. I'm trying to remember how Peacemaker handled it. Wallers daughter was kinda the audience stand in IIRC.
March Climber
Member
This is why I'm hoping that Guy Gardner explains just enough about the lantern corps in this upcoming Superman movie to save us from too much exposition in the GL movie.
Wait, is this a TV show or a movie?
I don't think it requires that much explanation for "We're space cops. Chosen for our strong will to control the ring. We humans protect Earth. Some alien shit is going on and we gotta figure it out" but thats rarely how modern shows leave it. An 80's/90's buddy cop show would have all this explained by the intro theme song
"He was a space cop, and good at his job. But he committed the ultimate sin—and testified against other space cops gone bad. Space Cops that tried to kill him, but got the woman he loved instead. Framed for murder, now he prowls the badlands...an outlaw hunting outlaws...a bounty hunter...a LANTERN"
March Climber
Member
Actually I forget myself. If it's a TV show, then they can definitely do a slow burn with this stuff instead of frontloading the audience with information.Wait, is this a TV show or a movie?
I don't think it requires that much explanation for "We're space cops. Chosen for our strong will to control the ring. We humans protect Earth. Some alien shit is going on and we gotta figure it out" but thats rarely how modern shows leave it. An 80's/90's buddy cop show would have all this explained by the intro theme song
"He was a space cop, and good at his job. But he committed the ultimate sin—and testified against other space cops gone bad. Space Cops that tried to kill him, but got the woman he loved instead. Framed for murder, now he prowls the badlands...an outlaw hunting outlaws...a bounty hunter...a LANTERN"
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
It's a TV show. They're filming it as True Detective with space cops. It's largely Earth based story. Murder mystery.
I still think it's about The Source.
I still think it's about The Source.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I'm hoping this show turns out good
I haven't read any Green Lantern comics yet but his concept always was interesting to me
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Doom85
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Geoff Johns’ Green Lantern run and Peter J Tomasi’s Green Lantern Corps run that ran together are awesome. Honestly, GL is usually considered Johns’ best (who is generally a very solid writer), the only ones from him that are said to match it are his original JSA run (which I need to read) and 52 (which is awesome, though that was a four man group project in terms of writing).
Just note the first arc, Green Lantern: Rebirth, does follow up a previous story from years prior to it, where Hal Jordan lost his mind to grief due to an extreme tragedy, called himself Parallex, and became a villain before dying. Rebirth explains how Hal returns to life and that his fall to villainy wasn’t actually something he had control over thus making him a hero once more.
Also the final issues of the two runs are generally considered an extremely satisfying “ending” (though obviously the characters’ stories continued past this) for those who don’t want to commit to a ton of issues (though these two runs each lasted roughly nine years, so still a lot of issues to read regardless).
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Geoff Johns’ Green Lantern run and Peter J Tomasi’s Green Lantern Corps run that ran together are awesome. Honestly, GL is usually considered Johns’ best (who is generally a very solid writer), the only ones from him that are said to match it are his original JSA run (which I need to read) and 52 (which is awesome, though that was a four man group project in terms of writing).
Just note the first arc, Green Lantern: Rebirth, does follow up a previous story from years prior to it, where Hal Jordan lost his mind to grief due to an extreme tragedy, called himself Parallex, and became a villain before dying. Rebirth explains how Hal returns to life and that his fall to villainy wasn’t actually something he had control over thus making him a hero once more.
Also the final issues of the two runs are generally considered an extremely satisfying “ending” (though obviously the characters’ stories continued past this) for those who don’t want to commit to a ton of issues (though these two runs each lasted roughly nine years, so still a lot of issues to read regardless).
On the DC Comic front when it comes to Green Lantern, I'm reading Grant Morrison Run this year. I'll consider giving those runs you mentioned a shot. I got the DC Universe Ultimate Subscription and I want to make good use of that app as much as I can. It works well on my tablet and is how I do most of my DC Comic Reading
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FeralEcho
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I hope so too.
My reaction gif was more about how it's literally a nothingburger, just a picture of two regular dudes in regular clothes one of them sporting a green ring that's not even in clear view that's supposed to tease a superhero show but hell DC has been on a streak of terrible first looks so it's to be expected I guess.
March Climber
Member
Same, but I do remember a very famously funny comic panel around Batman and GL arguing.
His drink was also lemonade.
Doom85
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Same, but I do remember a very famously funny comic panel around Batman and GL arguing.
His drink was also lemonade.
I believe that was All Star Batman and Robin though, which was pretty much Frank Miller losing whatever little sanity he had left after he had written Dark Knight Strikes Again.
Ironic, as All Star Superman was considered one of, if not the, best Superman comic runs ever, so the new All Star line should have taken off, but All Star Batman and Robin was such a train wreck it killed the line single-handedly (though briefly revived in the 2010’s with an All Star Batman run by Scott Snyder, though with no connection to the All Star Batman and Robin to my knowledge).
But Batman’s gotten a few good hits on Hal, but Hal’s gotten him good at times too.
I do like this moment below, they are capable of working together even if they can be impatient with each other often (and honestly while the second arc of the New 52 Justice League was mostly bad IMHO, Batman trying to tell Hal he doesn’t have to leave the team was a good moment).
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
As I said before like I am with every superhero film and show, I'm taking a wait and see approach to it. It's only one still image and I'm hoping this show is good since I want my Sci Fi Opera style show
Same, but I do remember a very famously funny comic panel around Batman and GL arguing.
His drink was also lemonade.
That looks horrible lol
Like piss filter
Vyse
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Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
ManaByte
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DC's been trying to do a Hal/John movie for years.
The old DCEU version was a movie where Hal was the veteran and John the rookie, but in that Hal died. It's why Tom Cruise turned it down because he won't do a movie where his character dies.
In this it's the same, Hal's the veteran training John, but without Hal dying.
The old DCEU version was a movie where Hal was the veteran and John the rookie, but in that Hal died. It's why Tom Cruise turned it down because he won't do a movie where his character dies.
In this it's the same, Hal's the veteran training John, but without Hal dying.
Doom85
Member
More like he didn't want to die in a film that might cut him out of lucrative sequels.
Tom Cruise has played several characters in films that have died.
I suspect he will die at the end of M:I.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
Tom Cruise has played several characters in films that have died.
Yeah, I mean, there's one movie where he dies probably hundreds of times.
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TheAtomicPile
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Same, but I do remember a very famously funny comic panel around Batman and GL arguing.
His drink was also lemonade.
Damn you and your lemonade!
Geoff Johns' run is good, at least up until the Sinestro Corps War or maybe Blackest Night. After that, they get way too into all the rainbow ring stuff which lost me eventually.
As a Grant Morrison fanboy, I'm legally obligated to to recommend his run as well. It leans very heavily into the "space cop" concept.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Damn you and your lemonade!
Geoff Johns' run is good, at least up until the Sinestro Corps War or maybe Blackest Night. After that, they get way too into all the rainbow ring stuff which lost me eventually.
As a Grant Morrison fanboy, I'm legally obligated to to recommend his run as well. It leans very heavily into the "space cop" concept.
I'm reading Grant Morrison Green Lantern Run this year
I'm also reading all of the Batman White Knight Miniseries this year
As for Grant Morrison, he wrote my favorite X-Men Run called New X-Men. I still consider it the best X-Men Run I have read