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[Miyazaki’s Slave]

wtf, that TV is almost mounted on the ceiling - why is it mounted so high. Almost broke my neck just looking at this picture

Its taken from the perspective of someone sitting on their knees.
Given the aesthetic of the room the picture was takin in, I assume the owner has vassals in every room taking upshots all day...

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Probably not unfortunately. Yeah I tend not buy anything usually unless its got HDR. Looks a great game regardless though.

It has HDR on the PlayStation version.

 

[Ironman_Bad]

Wow, what a shit update. No updates to the Quality mode?

Game looks really good now and runs smooth in performance mode it's not Callisto protocol but this is a great update

 

[Putonahappyface]

It has HDR on the PlayStation version.

Is that with HDR forced? As in always on in the settings? Because the HDR icon doesn't pop for me.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Lads, please let's not do this, the game, after the patch drops frames heavily when under hectic moments compared to the unpatched version on the Pro.

VRR doesn't help, I've already tried it, also, there are these... heavy stutters which - for some reason - appear to be random since they do happen even when there's not much happening on the screen.

Non reason in lying or even exaggerate, the game DOES look better now in perf.mode but it also DOES drop frames more frequently compared to the unpatched version.

This is gonna be another PS portal-like stutter discussion where many were "lol, it's fine for me, must be your internet/router/you're imagining things" isn't it ?

It's kind of sad to see in a technical forum like this one where performance discussions are a daily thing not discussing or throwing under the proverbial rug such - very visible and notable - problems, some may be satisfied with the end result but the fact is, the game now performs worse than it did unpatched on the Pro.

Not trying to single you chaps out, It's just that after seeing the ridiculous posts on Reddit where people gash over literally imaginary "updates" (ie , games that have no DRS/haven't received patches/don't have any improvements on the Pro)...how did Mugatu say it ? "I think I'm taking crazy pills" ?

Mate, there is an active group of non-gamers who have made it their mission in life to shit on the PS5 Pro unfairly.

Can you blame anyone for being skeptical before a DF video is actually released, about anything graphical to do with the PS5 Pro.

No you cannot.

I'll just be honest with you here. I don't believe your post either, so we'll see.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Is that with HDR forced? As in always on in the settings? Because the HDR icon doesn't pop for me.

Turn off auto HDR and it's still in HDR in the game.

 

[Putonahappyface]

Turn off auto HDR and it's still in HDR in the game.

I'll have a play around with the settings later. I'm 99.9% sure it won't enable HDR.

 

[Bartski]

Gotta check for myself playing but I'm too busy with something else

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

I'll have a play around with the settings later. I'm 99.9% sure it won't enable HDR.

It's in HDR but it's not the best implementation.

For reference I'm on a 32 inch QD-OLED monitor.

 

[Topher]

It's the online co-op missions which could bring the game to its knees when it comes to performance.Have you tried playing them btw ?

No, I'm not playing online coop. I guess I'll have to "blindly" believe you on that.

As for the rest of your post.....calm down dude. It ain't that serious.

 

[N1tr0sOx1d3]

From what I've been reading. Performance requires VRR, but only drops outside the window in rare, already known problematic areas. General impression I'm getting is most think its a great update. Good to see PSSR implemented well too.

I just wish they'd add HDR.

2025 (almost) and no HDR, I’m lost for words.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Posting again here. Performance mode really does look pristine. Still, I would not recommened without a VRR screen.

that's performance mode? It does look great for the amount of details.

 

[Portugeezer]

Nice for the 10 people who care

 

[Kangx]

Again, it looks better BUT, actually performs pretty much the same as the game on base PS5 (meaning, not good).
It SURELY runs worse compared to the unpatched version running on Pro.

It's good for those that do pixel counting, for those that actually like to play the game though it's not good.

It was actually A-OK on the Pro before this patch, at least the framerate was hovering above the 50-ish fps mark during hectic moments, now ? It can drop as low as 40something like before.

I'm friggin' disappointed

This is not true by the way. The pro look significantly sharper/better and run substantially better. The last scene in this video in one of the most demanding.

 

[King Dazzar]

It has HDR on the PlayStation version.

Oh OK. Thats strange. When I looked into it, everyone said it didnt have native HDR. I'm assuming you've set HDR in the PS to only enable for games with HDR? To fully test launch a known SDR title first and check HDR isnt engaging. Then launch SMII. Cheers.

Giallo Corsa Are we sure that online co-op isnt having any bearing on your findings? Others may not be playing it online. I would have thought if the game is dealing with multiple players wouldnt it have a bearing on the CPU and therefore performance? Just a thought.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Oh OK. Thats strange. When I looked into it, everyone said it didnt have native HDR. I'm assuming you've set HDR in the PS to only enable for games with HDR? To fully test launch a known SDR title first and check HDR isnt engaging. Then launch SMII. Cheers.

Giallo Corsa Are we sure that online co-op isnt having any bearing on your findings? Others may not be playing it online. I would have thought if the game is dealing with multiple players wouldnt it have a bearing on the CPU and therefore performance? Just a thought.

I don't have auto HDR on in the console settings.

 

[Kangx]

Image quality/sharpness comparison.
Look at the armor. Look on the ground behind him.

The pro in motion compare to the ps5 is night and day differences. This is just motion cutscene. The ps5 look like a fuzzy mess when the resolution drop to the lowest with everything going on in action.

This update is clearly substantial and huge here especially image qualit/sharpness.

 

[Seomel]

Hell yeah, time to start playthrough

 

[Topher]

Image quality/sharpness comparison.
Look at the armor. Look on the ground behind him.

The pro in motion compare to the ps5 is night and day differences. This is just motion cutscene. The ps5 look like a fuzzy mess when the resolution drop to the lowest with everything going on.

This update is clearly substantial and huge here especially image qualit/sharpness.

Yep. Frames drop into the 40s on base PS5 while only dropping to low 50s on Pro. That's a solid improvement.

 

[Physiognomonics]

This is not true by the way. The pro look significantly sharper/better and run substantially better. The last scene in this video in one of the most demanding.

PSSR clearly doing its magic here. It's much cleaner and less blurry (notably in motion). Framerate is a bit improved as well but far from been a big improvement. I wonder if they didn't improve the framerate on base PS5 too?

 

[Topher]

PSSR clearly doing its magic here. It's much cleaner and less blurry (notably in motion). Framerate is a bit improved as well but far from been a big improvement. I wonder if they didn't improve the framerate on base PS5 too?

I was wondering the same. PS5 was noticeably worse than XSX in performance so could be both base PS5 and Pro versions received some optimization.

 

[blastprocessor]

Wonder why this performs worse than XSX it's a puzzle yet to be solved guess DF will be on it at some point...

PSSR looks good must be using the latest

 

[Kangx]

PSSR clearly doing its magic here. It's much cleaner and less blurry (notably in motion). Framerate is a bit improved as well but far from been a big improvement. I wonder if they didn't improve the framerate on base PS5 too?

frame rate is not ideal but that scene is one the most demanding one. It go from anywhere from 5 to 12 fps. I call this substantial out of 60fps, not just a bit.

 

[Physiognomonics]

frame rate is not ideal but that scene is one the most demanding one. It go from anywhere from 5 to 12 fps. I call this substantial out of 60fps, not just a bit.

But what about this scene on the unpatched PS5 game?

 

[King Dazzar]

I don't have auto HDR on in the console settings.

Yeah, its not called Auto HDR. I'm only labouring this as all other sources say it doesn't have native HDR. And I would need to be 100% sure before buying it. The PS HDR settings would need to look like this:

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Auto as in the "Always On" setting is what I meant.

On when supported is what I use.

If HDR wasn't supported I would force it anyway.

 

[Quezacolt]

Auto as in the "Always On" setting is what I meant.

On when supported is what I use.

If HDR wasn't supported I would force it anyway.

That always on dont actually improve the image in any way. The tv will output in hdr, but if a game doesnt supoort hdr, then you dont see any improvements.

 

[SABRE220]

They could easily make fidelity mode with PC max settings but who cares about 30fps users....

 

[TrebleShot]

Gotta check for myself playing but I'm too busy with something else

What are you doing?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

That always on dont actually improve the image in any way. The tv will output in hdr, but if a game doesnt supoort hdr, then you dont see any improvements.

I like it.
I do it on PC with Dolby Vision as well and sometimes it's great.

 

[JaksGhost]

They could easily make fidelity mode with PC max settings but who cares about 30fps users....

They increased the resolution on the fidelity mode using PSSR but I haven't seen any footage around. Every one is focusing on performance mode right now.

Specs	PS5	PS5 Pro
Quality Mode Resolution	1080p - 1440p with upscale FSR to 4K	1080p - 2160p with upscale PSSR to 4K
Quality Mode Frame Rate	30 FPS	30 FPS
Performance Mode Resolution	720p - 1080p with upscale FSR to 4K	1080p - 1440p with upscale PSSR to 4K
Performance Mode Frame Rate	60 FPS	60 FPS

 

[rofif]

I like it.
I do it on PC with Dolby Vision as well and sometimes it's great.

it's just brighter.
It displays sdr in hdr containter. that pumps up brightness but ruins black levels and gradients.
sdr is for sdr for a reason

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

it's just brighter.
It displays sdr in hdr containter. that pumps up brightness but ruins black levels and gradients.
sdr is for sdr for a reason

Looks great on my display most of the time and it's a option for a reason.

 

[Justin9mm]

They spent $10-20k on an interior designer and those backwalls.

They dont care about gaming.

From that far out, you are not going to be able to tell a difference in image quality anyway.

Do you know how many people actually do this, they buy like 65 inch OLEDs and proceed to sit like 3-5 metres from it and say wow look at the picture quality. I have an 85" inch and I sit exactly 3 metres from it. People come over and think it's too close but it's really not, they just don't understand how distance and peripheral vision works.

 

[Kangx]

But what about this scene on the unpatched PS5 game?

In the same ball park. Maybe even a bit better on the pro. The pro never drop below 50 in this scene where the unpatched one drop to 48.

From the same chanel.


Edit.

 

[Ironman_Bad]

I strongly suggest all ps5pro owners to be very careful who they listen to in regard to ps5pro updates there is a definite narrative unfortunately and some games deserve the negativity but this one is a winner now hopefully with new releases being day 1 on pro and development alongside this will all be history by next summer

 

[rofif]

I strongly suggest all ps5pro owners to be very careful who they listen to in regard to ps5pro updates there is a definite narrative unfortunately and some games deserve the negativity but this one is a winner now hopefully with new releases being day 1 on pro and development alongside this will all be history by next summer

This is a very good observation and I also share your view. It’s popular to badmouth pro now and on PlayStation. In a vacuum, more people would be happier with it rather than being influenced by negativity.
Internet culture and over analysing is very unhealthy

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Time to go back and plat it, the game is so good

 

[Physiognomonics]

I strongly suggest all ps5pro owners to be very careful who they listen to in regard to ps5pro updates there is a definite narrative unfortunately and some games deserve the negativity but this one is a winner now hopefully with new releases being day 1 on pro and development alongside this will all be history by next summer

This is the propaganda narrative from the usual suspects to be ignored. They did the same with PS4 Pro. But they were only giving praises for X1X (where most of the games were stuck to 30fps...). They are paid for.

 

[DanielG165]

They could easily make fidelity mode with PC max settings but who cares about 30fps users....

30 fps in Space Marine 2 doesn’t sound like a good time to me. High frame rates fit this game like a tailored suit.

 

[Quezacolt]

They increased the resolution on the fidelity mode using PSSR but I haven't seen any footage around. Every one is focusing on performance mode right now.

Specs	PS5	PS5 Pro
Quality Mode Resolution	1080p - 1440p with upscale FSR to 4K	1080p - 2160p with upscale PSSR to 4K
Quality Mode Frame Rate	30 FPS	30 FPS
Performance Mode Resolution	720p - 1080p with upscale FSR to 4K	1080p - 1440p with upscale PSSR to 4K
Performance Mode Frame Rate	60 FPS	60 FPS

Fidelity mode looks gorgeous. Almost looks like its native 4k. The resolution + higher res textures make it one of the best looking games of the gen imo. There are still some areas that dont look as good, but overall, the game has amazing visual in fidelity mode

 

[King Dazzar]

Do you know how many people actually do this, they buy like 65 inch OLEDs and proceed to sit like 3-5 metres from it and say wow look at the picture quality. I have an 85" inch and I sit exactly 3 metres from it. People come over and think it's too close but it's really not, they just don't understand how distance and peripheral vision works.

I'm 2.4m from mine.

 

[ShakenG]

So the PSSR verdict sounds fairly positive?
People generally seem happy with this update so look forward to playing this some time January after family vacation.

Lot of time, could improve further.

 

[FUBARx89]

So er, any ideas why my TV will activate in 120vrr mode now? Lol

 

[gooner4life_uk]

Space Marine 2 outputs at 120 (fluctuating) on my PS5 Pro, but it's very close to 120, is it using frame gen? or does it run in a 120fps container? if it does this is the first PS5 or PS5 Pro game to do so to my knowledge.

 

[Justin9mm]

I'm 2.4m from mine.

For what size?

 

[Justin9mm]

Image quality/sharpness comparison.
Look at the armor. Look on the ground behind him.

The pro in motion compare to the ps5 is night and day differences. This is just motion cutscene. The ps5 look like a fuzzy mess when the resolution drop to the lowest with everything going on in action.

This update is clearly substantial and huge here especially image qualit/sharpness.

The problem with the Pro is that some people can't even tell the difference between 1080p and 4K especially sitting too far away on smaller TVs. The casual gamer thinks Pro is a scam because this kind of difference to them is neither here nor there. For me personally, I agree this is a huge difference, I play on an 85" TV and it's night and day to my experience. Some people are sitting like 4 metres from a 65 inch, it all looks very much the same to them.

 

[Imtjnotu]

Is this game any good?

 

[midasmulligan]

Is this game any good?

6/10, +1 if you’re into the lore

 

[Kangx]

Look really clean and sharp in the city section. Maybe the cleanest PSSR implementation I have seen.

Those metal geometry where darktide struggled and shows substantial alias especially in motion are no where to be found here. I am kinda impressed with image quality.

The question is, will DF zoom tool find flaw in this game with how clean this is?
We will find out lol.