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[LectureMaster]

GameInformer - The Final Level

The interview also talked about Bloodborne and Elden Ring. But hearing Miyazaki hopes double down on Sekiro is the best thing for me. Been a From fan since 2013 and Sekiro's boss fights are simply paragon in their catalog.

"It's become something much more fluid and active, I think, which was a very defining characteristic of Sekiro, and it's something I've been thinking about since Bloodborne," Miyazaki says. "Perhaps in Sekiro, it appears most obviously or its the clearest form that I think that philosophy can embody. And personally, I think there's one more level we can crank it up to and sharpen that and hone in on that mechanic even more, but I think Sekiro was a big turning point."

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Their biggest and most fatal mistake was allowing Activision to own the IP (Sekiro). Now they can't do shit with it.

 

[Bartski]

 

[LectureMaster]

Their biggest and most fatal mistake was allowing Activision to own the IP (Sekiro). Now they can't do shit with it.

Pretty sure Activision was only publishing and the IP belongs to From.

SEKIRO : SHADOWS DIE TWICE Trademark of Kabushiki Kaisha From Software - Registration Number 5677413 - Serial Number 79242052 :: Justia Trademarks

Electronic game software; downloadable electronic game programs; computer game discs. Entertainment services, namely, providing online electronic games

trademarks.justia.com

 

[Fake]

As much as I dislike Sekiro, I confess the game really help shape Elden Ring mechanics.

 

[_Idea_of_Evil_]

 

[tusharngf]

I mean i like SEKIRO but we really need bloodborne 2. Sekiro IP can take rest for now.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Pretty sure Activision was only publishing and the IP belongs to From.

SEKIRO : SHADOWS DIE TWICE Trademark of Kabushiki Kaisha From Software - Registration Number 5677413 - Serial Number 79242052 :: Justia Trademarks

Electronic game software; downloadable electronic game programs; computer game discs. Entertainment services, namely, providing online electronic games

trademarks.justia.com

I mean, to be fair and probably not many people know this, but Bandai Namco owns shit and they're only publishing From games outside of Japan, where From publishing their games themselves. But this Activision Sekiro deal is far less clear than that. So, I'm afraid we need some very solid confirmation than "pretty sure".

Also, it's one of the best (if not the best) games they've made ever, but instead of following up with the sequel (not necessarily with the same characters, and they know people want the sequel), they're not even hinting that it's coming and there's not a single rumor about it, which kinda makes you wonder if they even have a say in all this and if Activision owns the IP.

 

[demonstr8]

Their biggest and most fatal mistake was allowing Activision to own the IP (Sekiro). Now they can't do shit with it.

Activision don't own the IP. They just have the publishing rights for the first game only.

 

[LectureMaster]

I mean, to be fair and probably not many people know this, but Bandai Namco owns shit and they're only publishing From games outside of Japan, where From publishing their games themselves. But this Activision Sekiro deal is far less clear than that. So, I'm afraid we need some very solid confirmation than "pretty sure".

Also, it's one of the best (if not the best) games they've made ever, but instead of following up with the sequel (not necessarily with the same characters, and they know people want the sequel), they're not even hinting that it's coming and there's not a single rumor about it, which kinda makes you wonder if they even have a say in all this and if Activision owns the IP.

I think not hearing news about a sequel = don't have a say on the IP is a bit too much stretch.

Sekiro is also my favorite, and based on this interview I'm positive that we eventually we get a sequel.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Even the lord Miyazaki knows that Sekiro is the goat!

 

[MrRenegade]

Their biggest and most fatal mistake was allowing Activision to own the IP (Sekiro). Now they can't do shit with it.

And? They release a game called "katana blade monkey power mudabitch" with revised game mechanics and it would sell 10 million copies.

 

[Kacho]

Omg I can’t wait. Sekiro was soooooo good. It was hard going back to Dark Souls combat in Elden Ring after Sekiro. Definitely need more of that.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

And? They release a game called "katana blade monkey power mudabitch" with revised game mechanics and it would sell 10 million copies.

Sure, but there's one problem. I want to get into the world of Sekiro with similar feel, gameplay loop, mechanics and combat again and as you can see, there's no From game similar to Bloodborne in terms of setting, art and gameplay mechanics still, is there? They haven't used or revised anything from that game ever again in any of their games they released since. There's no weapons transformations, no emphasis on aggressive play to survive and get your health back, you can't use firearms to replace a shield and most importantly, there's no other From game like Bloodborne still and there won't be another game like Sekiro unless it's Sekiro.

 

[Bernardougf]

GameInformer - The Final Level

The interview also talked about Bloodborne and Elden Ring. But hearing Miyazaki hopes double down on Sekiro is the best thing for me. Been a From fan since 2013 and Sekiro's boss fights are simply paragon in their catalog.

Holy fuck yes... more sekiro less elden ring !!! Letttssss gooooo

 

[simpatico]

Their biggest and most fatal mistake was allowing Activision to own the IP (Sekiro). Now they can't do shit with it.

We don’t need an expanded Sekiro universe. Sekiro begins and ends with Sekiro, and that’s ok.

 

[Bartski]

 

[Skull-Knight]

This is exactly what I wanted. God bless u, Miyazaki.

 

[Sentenza]

As much as I dislike Sekiro, I confess the game really help shape Elden Ring mechanics.

Fucking degenerate.

 

[kikkis]

No stamina and dodge on press of button and not on release is the best part of sekiro.

 

[Aion002]

Sure, but there's one problem. I want to get into the world of Sekiro with similar feel, gameplay loop, mechanics and combat again and as you can see, there's no From game similar to Bloodborne in terms of setting, art and gameplay mechanics still, is there? They haven't used or revised anything from that game ever again in any of their games they released since. There's no weapons transformations, no emphasis on aggressive play to survive and get your health back, you can't use firearms to replace a shield and most importantly, there's no other From game like Bloodborne still and there won't be another game like Sekiro unless it's Sekiro.

FS owns the Sekiro ip:

SEKIRO : SHADOWS DIE TWICE Trademark of Kabushiki Kaisha From Software - Registration Number 5677413 - Serial Number 79242052 :: Justia Trademarks

Electronic game software; downloadable electronic game programs; computer game discs. Entertainment services, namely, providing online electronic games

trademarks.justia.com

Why Sekiro Isn't Owned By Xbox Despite Activision Acquisition

Microsoft is set to buy Activision Blizzard, but its control of previously-published properties like Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice remains uncertain.

gamerant.com

Fun fact: FromSoftware also owns the Tenchu ip.

From Software buys Tenchu rights

Western publisher sells ninja series rights to Japanese publisher. Bizarre, eh?

www.gamesindustry.biz

 

[MrRenegade]

Sure, but there's one problem. I want to get into the world of Sekiro with similar feel, gameplay loop, mechanics and combat again and as you can see, there's no From game similar to Bloodborne in terms of setting, art and gameplay mechanics still, is there? They haven't used or revised anything from that game ever again in any of their games they released since. There's no weapons transformations, no emphasis on aggressive play to survive and get your health back, you can't use firearms to replace a shield and most importantly, there's no other From game like Bloodborne still and there won't be another game like Sekiro unless it's Sekiro.

Well, Activision, EA and others sit on goldmine franchises and they do nothing with them. Harsh reality of life, but at least FROM is not wanking around and burning their good will with shitty products. They deliver, so I think we just need to wait a few years and something similar (or same) might pop up.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Their biggest and most fatal mistake was allowing Activision to own the IP (Sekiro). Now they can't do shit with it.

Demons Souls turned into Dark Souls
Sekiro turns into ???

 

[Agent_4Seven]

FS owns the Sekiro ip:

SEKIRO : SHADOWS DIE TWICE Trademark of Kabushiki Kaisha From Software - Registration Number 5677413 - Serial Number 79242052 :: Justia Trademarks

Electronic game software; downloadable electronic game programs; computer game discs. Entertainment services, namely, providing online electronic games

trademarks.justia.com

Why Sekiro Isn't Owned By Xbox Despite Activision Acquisition

Microsoft is set to buy Activision Blizzard, but its control of previously-published properties like Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice remains uncertain.

gamerant.com

That's all I needed to know.

Fun fact: FromSoftware also owns the Tenchu ip.

From Software buys Tenchu rights

Western publisher sells ninja series rights to Japanese publisher. Bizarre, eh?

www.gamesindustry.biz

Now this can be a welcome alternative to Sekiro's sequel.

Demons Souls turned into Dark Souls

Demon's Souls is different design-wise than other From games, even though gameplay loop and core mechanics are similar. They haven't made a similar game ever since.

Sekiro turns into ???

Only time will tell, but it won't be the same.

 

[SantaC]

i hated sekiro. No builds and a game full of parrying. No thanks.

Most overrated souls game imo.

 

[Hudo]

Most overrated souls game imo.

Sekiro isn't a Souls game, imho.

 

[PanzerCute]

i hated sekiro. No builds and a game full of parrying. No thanks.

Most overrated souls game imo.

It was not a Souls Game, that's the thing.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I would love another Sekiro. It’s so damn satisfying to play. Very weird that they never made a DLC.

 

[Danjin44]

Their biggest and most fatal mistake was allowing Activision to own the IP (Sekiro). Now they can't do shit with it.

Activision doesn’t own Sekiro IP, FROM themselves publish the game in Japan while Activision published it for west.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Activision doesn’t own Sekiro IP, FROM themselves publish the game in Japan while Activision published it for west.

Yeah, I found that out already a few post above.

 

[Danjin44]

We don’t need an expanded Sekiro universe. Sekiro begins and ends with Sekiro, and that’s ok.

I have you not get Return of the Dragon ending? That one open up for sequel.

 

[Shut0wen]

Honestly surprised team ninja never copied it for a ninja gaiden reboot

 

[BennyBlanco]

Honestly surprised team ninja never copied it for a ninja gaiden reboot

I would put Nioh 2 right up there with Sekiro as far as fun combat goes.

It’s enemy and level design that really holds back Team Ninja these days.

 

[Sentenza]

I would put Nioh 2 right up there with Sekiro as far as fun combat goes.

It’s enemy and level design that really holds back Team Ninja these days.

Their Diablo-like compulsive loot system is a fucking stinker, too.

 

[Shut0wen]

I would put Nioh 2 right up there with Sekiro as far as fun combat goes.

It’s enemy and level design that really holds back Team Ninja these days.

Really? I thought it was more souls like then sekiro, but yes agree with the other points, was my biggest grip with wo long even though its the closest game to bloodborne

 

[Varteras]

Demons Souls turned into Dark Souls
Sekiro turns into ???

 

[BennyBlanco]

Their Diablo-like compulsive loot system is a fucking stinker, too.

Also true, it just feels superfluous. But since their games are fun and play well for the most part they are still 3 steps ahead of most modern devs.

I need to play that Stranger of Paradise DLC one of these days.

 

[Švejk]

Still wish they made this Tenchu, but still Loved what it was.

 

[Jigsaah]

Their Diablo-like compulsive loot system is a fucking stinker, too.

Facts. That's the one thing that keeps me from playing through Nioh 2 a second time. The tedium of going through so much loot and not having a clear understand of what's good for my build. Adding different stats to min max is just....it's never necessary for a normal playthrough and the end game doesn't really interest me after completing the story.

 

[thief183]

Facts. That's the one thing that keeps me from playing through Nioh 2 a second time. The tedium of going through so much loot and not having a clear understand of what's good for my build. Adding different stats to min max is just....it's never necessary for a normal playthrough and the end game doesn't really interest me after completing the story.

I disliked it at first then I realised that after the story run the game really opens up on the itemization and it started to make sense, the real problem with Nioh 2 is that it is way too big, 5 different runs and you unlock stuff at the 3rd run.... but the combat it's just on par with sekiro, or even better and I can't put it down.

 

[Killer8]

I think Rise of the Ronin may have already beat them to perfecting the parry and guard break mechanics.

 

[NeverYouMind]

You are never going to make an action game half as good as Ninja Gaiden.

Focus on Bloodborne-tier occult environmental story telling with cool weapons.

 

[March Climber]

I just want him and his team to find a way to incorporate this type of parry/blocking system into a souls game.

ER’s parries and blocking should not have been that large of a regression after Sekiro.

 

[Mister Wolf]

It just needs more weapons in the sequel.

 

[Thief1987]

Honestly surprised team ninja never copied it for a ninja gaiden reboot

Why you want to turn Ninja Gaiden into trash?

 

[gaming_again]

Sekiro is so tight and fun. I always want to go back to it but it's important to retain erotic distance.

 

[Blood Borne]

I think Rise of the Ronin may have already beat them to perfecting the parry and guard break mechanics.

Really?
Glad to hear it.

This makes me want to get back to the game.

 

[FingerBang]

I honestly can't wait for Sekiro 2. I'll take it over Bloodborne 2. Sorry, not sorry.

 

[FewRope]

Sekiro is probably the best action game of his generation

 

[The artful mincer]

I just want him and his team to find a way to incorporate this type of parry/blocking system into a souls game.

ER’s parries and blocking should not have been that large of a regression after Sekiro.

Lies of P?!