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[Contra11]

Who said microtransactions didn't affect GT6 ?


GT6 prize cars list :

Career
Novice (All Stars) gives (P) Renault Sport Clio R.S. '11
National B (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Lancia DELTA HF Integrale Evoluzione '91 -
National B (All Stars) gives (P) Acura NSX '91 -
National A (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Dodge Challenger R/T '70 -
National A (All Stars) gives (P) RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7 -
International B (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Jaguar XKR-S '11 -
International B (All Stars) gives (P) Lamborghini Diablo GT2 '98 -
International A (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Chevrolet Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET SS -
International A (All Stars) gives (P) Ferrari Enzo Ferrari '02 -
Super (Half of all Stars) gives (P) McLaren F1 '94 -
Super (All Stars) gives (P) Audi Sport quattro S1 Pikes Peak '87 -

GT5 prize cars list :

A-Spec


A-Spec Beginner

Sunday Cup: Toyota Vitz U euro Sport Edition’00 (S)
FF Cup: Honda Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) ‘91 (S)
FR challenge: Toyota FT-86 Concept ’09 (P)
European Classic Car Championship: Volkswagen Kubelwagen typ82 ‘44 (P)
World Classic Car Series: Subaru 360 ‘58 (S)
Light Weight K Cup: Suzuki Wagon R RR ‘98 (S)
Vitz race: Toyota Prius G Touring Selection (J) ‘03 (S)
World Compact: Hommell Berlinette R/S Coupe ‘99 (S)
Japanese Classics: Honda Z ACT ’78 (S)
Beginner events complete: Gift Car Ticket Level 5

A-Spec Amateur

Clubman Cup: Honda Mugen Motul Civic Si Race ‘87 (S)
European Hot Hatch Championship: Volkswagen Lupo GTI Cup Car (J) ‘03 (S)
NR-A Roadster Cup: Mazda KUSABI CONCEPT ’03 (S)
Sport Truck Race: Daihatsu Midget II D type ‘98 (S)
Japanese 90's Challenge: Nissan SILEIGHTY ‘98 (S)
Tous France Championship: Citroën 2 CV Type A ‘54 (S)
Festival Italia: Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 ‘65 (S)
Classic Muscle Car Championship: Buick Special '62 (S)
Supercar Nostalgia Cup: Dome Zero Concept ’78 (S)
Amateur events complete: Gift Car Ticket Level 9

A-Spec Professional

Mini Challenge: Mini Cooper 1,3i ‘98 (S)
Muscle Car Championship: Dodge Challenger SRT8 ‘08 (P)
Supercar Festival: Maserati Gran Turismo S ’08 (P)
la Festa Cavillino: Ferrari California ‘08 (P)
British Lightweight: Triumph Spitfire 1500 ‘74 (S)
Lamborghini Exclusive: Lamborghini Countach LP400 ‘74 (S)
Lupo Cup: Volkswagen Lupo 1,4 ‘02 (S)
Japanese 80's Festival: Toyota Celica XX 2800GT ’81 (S)
GT World Championship: Bugatti Veyron 16.4 ‘09 (S)
Professional events complete: Gift Car Ticket Level 12

A-Spec Expert

Tuning Car Grand Prix: HPA Motorsport Stage II R32 (S)
Schwarzwald League A: Opel Speedster Turbo ‘00 (S)
Historic Racing Car Cup: Lancia STRATOS Rally Car '77 (S)
Trofeo Gallardo: Lancia Delta S4 Rally Car '85 (S)
MR Sports Cup: Cizeta V16T '94 (S)
Turbo Race: Mitsubishi Lancer EX 1800GSR IC Turbo '83 (S)
Japanese Championship: Gran Turismo 350Z RS (P)
Gran Turismo All Stars: AMUSE Carbon R (R34) '04 (S)
Polyphony Digital Cup: Nissan 350Z Gran Turismo 4 Ltd (Z33) '05 (S)
Expert events complete: Gift Car Ticket Level 17

A-Spec Extreme

NASCAR Series: Pontiac Tempest Le Mans GTO (S)
Schwarzwald League B: Audi Pikes Peak Quattro Concept '03 (S)
Like The Wind: Minolta 88C-V '89 (S)
Super GT Series: Calsonic Skyline GT-R race car '93 (S)
DTM Series: BMW 2002 Turbo '73 (S)
Dream Car Championship: Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II (S)
American Championship: Jay Leno Tank Car ‘03 (S)
European Championship: Audi Le Mans quattro ‘03 (S)
Formula GT: Caterham Fireblade (S)
Extreme events complete: Gift car ticket level 21

A-Spec Endurance

Grand Valley 300km: Honda HSC '03 (S)
Roadster 4 hours: Mazda 110S '68 (S)
Laguna Seca 200 miles: Infinity Coupe Concept '06 (P)
Indy 500: XJ13 Race Car '66 (P)
Suzuka 1000km: Nissan GT-R Concept LM race car (S)
Nurburgring 4h: Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09 (S)
Tsukuba 9h: HKS CT230R '08 (P)
Le Mans 24h: Audi R8 Race Car (Audio Playstation Team Oreca) ´05 (S)
Nurburgring 24h: Audi R10 TDI '06 (P)
Endurance Events Complete: Gift Car Ticket Level 24

----------------------------------------------------

B-Spec


B-Spec Beginner

Sunday Cup: Toyota Yaris U Euro Sport Edition (J) '00 (S)
FF Cup: Honda Civic TYPE R (EK) '97 (P)
FR Challenge: Toyota FT-86 G Concept'10 SPORTS (P)
European Classic Car Championship: Fiat 500 F '65 (S)
World Classic Car Series: Volkswagen Beetle 1100 Standard (Type-11) '49 (S)
Light Weight K Cup: Daihatsu Move SR-XX 4WD'97 (S)
Vitz Race: Toyota Prius G '09 (P)
World Compact Car Race: Autobianchi A112 Abarth '79 (S)
Japanese Classics: Isuzu 117 Coupe '68 (S)
Beginner events complete: Gift Car Ticket Level 5

B-Spec Amateur

Clubman Cup: TRD Celica TRD Sports M (ZZT231) ‘00 (S)
Euro Hot Hatch League: Volkswagen Lupo Cup Car ‘00 (S)
NR-A Roadster Cup: Mazda Furai Concept’08 (S)
Sport Truck Race: Daihatsu Midget II D type '98 (S)
Japanese 90's Challenge: Mazda 323F ‘93 (S)
Classic Muscle Car Championship: Shelby AC Cobra 427 ‘66 (P)
Festival Italia: Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Spéciale ‘63 (S)
Supercar Nostalgia Cup: DMC DeLorean S2 ‘04 (S)
Tous France: Alpine A110 1600 ‘73 (S)
Amateur events complete: Gift Car Ticket Level 9

B-Spec Professional

Mini Challenge: MARCOS Mini Marcos’70 (S)
Muscle Car Championship: Ford Mustang GT '05 (S)
Supercar Festival: Hyundai Clix Concept '01 (S)
Lupo Cup: Volkswagen Lupo GTI '01 (S)
Japanese 80's Festival: Isuzu PIAZZA XE '81 (S)
la Festa Cavillino: Ferrari F40 '92 (P)
British Lightweight: Lotus Elan S1 '62 (S)
Lamborghini Exclusive: Lamborghini Countach 25th Anniversary '88 (S)
GT World Championship: Pagani Zonda R '09 (P)
Professional events complete: Gift Car Ticket Level 12

B-Spec Expert

Tuning Car Grand Prix: AEM Honda S2000 (P)
Schwarzwald League A: Opel Speedster '00 (S)
Historic Racing Car Cup: Alfa Romeo GIULIA TZ2 carrozzata da ZAGATO CN.AR750106 ‘65 (P)
Trofeo Gallardo: Lancia Stratos '73 (S)
MR Sports Cup: Cadillac CIEN Concept '02 (S)
Turbo Race: Honda City Turbo II '83 (S)
Japanese Championship: Opera Performance 350Z (S)
Gran Turismo All Stars: NISMO 380RS Super Leggera (P)
Polyphony Digital Cup: Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01 (S)
Expert events complete: Gift Car Ticket Level 17

B-Spec Extreme

Schwarzwald League B: Nuvolari Quattro '03 (S)
Like The Wind: Toyota 7 Race Car '70 (S)
B-Spec NASCAR Extreme: Mercury Cougar XR-7 '67 (S)
European Championship: BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07 (P)
Super GT: Toyota Castrol TOM's Supra '97 (P)
German Touring Car Championship: Audi Quattro '82 (S)
American Championship: Chevrolet SSR '03 (S)
Formula GT: Suzuki GSX-R/4 Concept '01 (S)
Dream Car Championship: GT by Citroen Race Car (P)
Extreme events complete: Gift Car Ticket Level 21

B-Spec Endurance

Grand Valley 300km: Honda DUALNOTE Concept '01 (S)
Roadster 4 hours: Mazda 110S (L10A) '67 (S)
Laguna Seca 200 miles: Camaro IROC-Z Concept '88 (S)
Indy 500: Ford GT40 Race Car '69 (S)
Suzuka 1000km: Nissan Fairlady Z-Concept LM Race Car (S)
Nurburgring 4h: Lexus IS F Racing Concept ‘08 (P)
Tsukuba 9h: Amuse S2000 GT1 ‘04 (S)
Le Mans 24h: Toyota GT-One Race Car (TS020) (S)
Nurburgring 24h: McLaren MP4-12C '10 (P)
Endurance Events Complete: Gift car Ticket Level 24

B-Spec Level 35: Red Bull X2010 S.Vettel (P) (Red Bull livery)

Source

 

[Yagharek]

One-fifth the sales, one-fifth the cars.

 

[Hanmik]

eh... you also get prize cars for getting gold in the goodwood festival of speed and missions.. but not as many as in GT5.

Missions
National B (Gold) gives (P) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR T.M. EDITION Special Color Pack - 32,980 Cr
National A (Gold) gives (P) BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07 - 70,000 Cr
International B (Gold) gives (P) Lotus Elise Race Car '96 - 137,500 Cr
International A (Gold) gives (P) Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07 - 302,500 Cr
Super (Gold) gives (P) Nissan GT-R N24 GT Academy '12 - 500,000 Cr

Goodwood Festival of Speed
1-1 A110 (Gold)
1-2 X-BOW (Gold)
1-3 Dino 246 GT (Gold)
gives
(P) Light Car Company Rocket '07 - 100,000 Cr

2-1 507 (Gold)
2-2 Lotus Europa S.2 (Gold)
2-3 SLS AMG GT3 (Gold)
gives
(P) Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60 - 1,000,000 Cr

3-1 quattro S1 Rally Car (Gold)
3-2 One-77 (Gold)
3-3 GT40 Mark I (Gold)
gives
(P) Chevrolet Corvette StingRay Racer Concept '59 - 500,000 Cr

4-1 TZ3 Stradale (Gold)
4-2 Countach LP400 (Gold)
4-3 Stratos (Gold)
gives
(P) Cizeta V16T '94 - 636,660 Cr

5-1 GT-R Nismo GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport (Gold)
5-2 R18 TDI (Audi Sport Team Joest) (Gold)
5-3 Red Bull X2010 Prototype (Gold)
gives
(P) Citroën GT by Citroën Road Car - 1,450,000 Cr

 

[Asd202]

Eh .

 

[SaitoH]

You have to do the license tests and you get a car for completing each one plus an additional car for getting gold.

 

[King_Moc]

Yup, that's bullshit. The model was working for them before, so what changed? Other than an easy opportunity to rip people off, of course.

 

[Otakumegane]

One-fifth the sales, one-fifth the cars.

This fits well.

 

[djplaeskool]

Have to get golds on licenses, missions, and Goodwood.
Plenty of prizes, but more difficult to get.

 

[NeoGash]

Not liking the direction the two console sims are going in. Not liking it at all Other Barry.

 

[Metalmurphy]

I don't see how they can match the prize car giveaway on the A-spec/B-spec considering the structure is different, and there's no more B-spec. I don't really see how it has to do with microtransactions. You can win more cars outside of Aspec.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Why exactly are you including A-Spec and B-Spec car lists in that GT5 list when GT6 doesn't have B-Spec, and when it's patched in it'll be part of A-Spec (which is what many people wanted after GT5)?

 

[Hanmik]

I don't see how they can match the prize car giveaway on the A-spec/B-spec considering the structure is different, and there's no more B-spec. I don't really see how it has to do with microtransactions. You can win more cars outside of Aspec.

yeah and B-spec is coming later.. so (just) maybe we will get more prize cars also.

 

[MaDKaT]

OP should update with 'ALL' the prize cars that you can get in GT6. Still less than all previous games but not as bad as initially posted.

 

[Metalmurphy]

yeah and B-spec is coming later.. so (just) maybe we will get more prize cars also.

I don't think so, B-spec will just be a feature of A-spec instead of it's own mode. You'll be able to activate it mid race ala GT4.

 

[phosphor112]

Have to get golds on licenses, missions, and Goodwood.
Plenty of prizes, but more difficult to get.

Yeah, there are a lot. The car gifts seem to be better. Like all the "Level Tickets" in GT5 were balls. I always got these little shitbox cars.

Anyway... with ~400 more cars... I want a better payout.

EDIT: We should note that Endurance Races are no longer hours (or a day) long anymore. They are 24 minutes.

 

[MikeJAMoran]

You're missing an awful lot of prize cars. And I hate B-Spec, so I discount those!

 

[Hamster Plugin]

Microtransactions are why I canceled my GT6 preorder. It's the only way to try to make it stop... even though it probably won't. It's the future of gaming after all.

 

[Raven77]

And it selling 1/5th of what GT 5 sold is proof of 2 things. 1. People are ready for next gen. and 2. People don't like this microtransaction system.

I highly doubt Forza 5 sold / will sell as well as Forza 4 for the exact same reasons. I know that it is why I havent bought it yet myself and never will. Gamers MUST start speaking with their wallets. It is the only power we have.

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

This microtransaction debate confuses me. If people really think Sony/PD was trying to force microtransactions on you, why on Earth would they have allowed Gamestop to give a preorder bonus of 25 cars worth in excess of 20 million in-game credits (worth about $150)? Wouldn't that have been the greatest preorder bonus ever? A "bonus" worth 2.5 times the retail price of the game itself?

 

[Mechanized]

Fucking wow. Glad I passed on this.

 

[MikeJAMoran]

And it selling 1/5th of what GT 5 sold is proof of 2 things. 1. People are ready for next gen. and 2. People don't like this microtransaction system.

I highly doubt Forza 5 sold / will sell as well as Forza 4 for the exact same reasons. I know that it is why I havent bought it yet myself and never will. Gamers MUST start speaking with their wallets. It is the only power we have.

This is crazy. If I didn't on on GAF I wouldn't even know there were microtransactions in GT6. It has never prompted me. It seems a lot more visible in Forza 5, judging from the GiantBomb quick looks. It'll actually probably end up selling better than Forza 4 because it's a pack-in in some territories.

 

[SolidSnakex]

This is crazy. If I didn't on on GAF I wouldn't even know there were microtransactions in GT6. It has never prompted me. It seems a lot more visible in Forza 5, judging from the GiantBomb quick looks. It'll actually probably end up selling better than Forza 4 because it's a pack-in in some territories.

This thread is a good way of showing whose played the game and who hasn't. The OP alone is incredibly misleading.

 

[SaitoH]

Fucking wow. Glad I passed on this.

Except that the OP isn't accurate.

 

[Ravensmash]

I don't really feel like the microtransactions have had any tangible effect on the in-game economy actually.

I've built up a garage of cars similar to GT5, and I can easily spend the bulk of it but have enough money to buy yet more cars/upgrades in a relatively short time.

Expensive cars will always take a bit of grinding to afford, but if you fancy buying a particular model then chances are you can afford it with minimal effort.

Gold events and races and you won't have issues.

 

[kmg90]

Except that the OP isn't accurate.

Inaccurate? Partially. Misleading? Yes

 

[panty]

Fucking wow. Glad I passed on this.

Glad you also passed on reading the posts in this thread where it says the op is not accurate.

 

[hamchan]

It feels like I've been able to get enough money doing the campaign to buy the cars I want to drive and also make progression easily. Also, there is no obnoxious prompts or messages that harass you or tell you that there are micro transactions in the game.

 

[Steroyd]

Microtransactions are why I canceled my GT6 preorder. It's the only way to try to make it stop... even though it probably won't. It's the future of gaming after all.

Not the future, the past, Dead Space 1 started with time saver packs, and no-one really made such a stance as you are making until someone went a step too far.

That said it is ass that there's less prize cars in the campaign, but that comparison list is only representative of the career modes, then again it looks like they're going to give cars in vision GT which may boost the numbers up further.

 

[QaaQer]

Glad you also passed on reading the posts in this thread where it says the op is not accurate.

thrust is fewer 'free' cars in gt6, that part is accurate. As to the actual info, too many warriors/marketers and angry people to get to the bottom right now. Maybe in 6 months.

 

[Mman235]

This microtransaction debate confuses me. If people really think Sony/PD was trying to force microtransactions on you, why on Earth would they have allowed Gamestop to give a preorder bonus of 25 cars worth in excess of 20 million in-game credits (worth about $150)? Wouldn't that have been the greatest preorder bonus ever? A "bonus" worth 2.5 times the retail price of the game itself?

Gateway drug.

 

[Ludicrous Speed]

Absolutely awful.

I'm glad to hear that the game has not sold well in relation to GT5. People speaking with their wallets!!

 

[phosphor112]

Here is the list of reward cars so far.

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threa...s-win-cars-complete-so-far-2013-12-09.291615/

 

[MikeJAMoran]

thrust is fewer 'free' cars in gt6, that part is accurate. As to the actual info, too many warriors/marketers and angry people to get to the bottom right now. Maybe in 6 months.

Why should there automatically be more or the same number of prize cars regardless of microtransactions? It's a different game! And why is it assumed that microtransactions had any impact on that? This thread is crazy!

Absolutely awful.

I'm glad to hear that the game has not sold well in relation to GT5. People speaking with their wallets!!

This is getting ridiculous (or ludicrous!). The OP needs editing ASAP.

 

[kafiend]

Yeah, there are a lot. The car gifts seem to be better. Like all the "Level Tickets" in GT5 were balls. I always got these little shitbox cars.

Anyway... with ~400 more cars... I want a better payout.

EDIT: We should note that Endurance Races are no longer hours (or a day) long anymore. They are 24 minutes.

God fucking dammit - 24minutes? Looking forward to some epic endurance racing was one of the disappointingly few reasons that's kept me playing GT6.

On topic. Micro transaction bullshit and my own personal perception of exaggeratedly slow progression are exactly why I felt happy spending an hour yesterday taking advantage of the credits glitch.

 

[MaDKaT]

The game has definitely been restructured. Geared towards microtransactions? Maybe but I'm not sure yet. Seems to me that you don't need to buy much of anything. If you steer through the career with what you have, it seems you will win just about anything you need(minus a few exceptions, karts/hybrid). Even though I started with some anniversary cars and $1million credits, I haven't had the need to dip into that money yet to advance or tag in any of the gifted cars. I haven't had to grind races(yet?) and just move from one event to the next after I gold it. Money seems to accrue at about the same pace as previous games(offline) and the prize cars seem more valuable(for career advancement).

That said, I still don't like the idea of microtransactions, I just havent decided if the way they are implemented in this game have affected my experience.

 

[QaaQer]

Why should there automatically be more or the same number of prize cars regardless of microtransactions? It's a different game! And why is it assumed that microtransactions had any impact on that? This thread is crazy!

Because MTs generate revenue, companies like revenue, so it isn't far fetched to think companies would want to rebalance or rejig to generate revenue. Whether it is noticeable or affects enjoyment will vary player by player.

 

[Steroyd]

Absolutely awful.

I'm glad to hear that the game has not sold well in relation to GT5. People speaking with their wallets!!

Or it could be their wallets are empty because 2 next gen consoles released two weeks before the launch of this game.

Too early to proclaim people voted with their wallets on this.

 

[chrominance]

I remember trying to do an "only prize cars" run in GT2, and I got pretty far into the game before I stopped (can't remember if I ran out of eligible races or if I just got bored). Here's the GT2 prize list. It's about twice the size of the most comprehensive list I could find for GT6, off GTPlanet. Not awful, but not great either.

Dunno how to feel about this yet, mostly because my copy of GT6 STILL hasn't arrived yet so all I can do is read the GT6 GAF thread and cry.

I do think GT5 was a step too far in the other direction, where it felt like you got a prize car for sneezing funny.

 

[WarMacheen]

OP your list is bullshit

Career
Novice (All Stars) gives (P) Renault Sport Clio R.S. '11 - 36,400 Cr
National B (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Lancia DELTA HF Integrale Evoluzione '91 - 54,500 Cr
National B (All Stars) gives (P) Acura NSX '91 - 80,000 Cr
National A (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Dodge Challenger R/T '70 - 75,000 Cr
National A (All Stars) gives (P) RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7 - 100,000 Cr
International B (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Jaguar XKR-S '11 - 175,000 Cr
International B (All Stars) gives (P) Lamborghini Diablo GT2 '98 - 300,000 Cr
International A (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Chevrolet Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET SS - 500,000 Cr
International A (All Stars) gives (P) Ferrari Enzo Ferrari '02 - 1,000,000 Cr
Super (Half of all Stars) gives (P) McLaren F1 '94 - 1,000,000 Cr
Super (All Stars) gives (P) Audi Sport quattro S1 Pikes Peak '87 - 1,450,000 Cr

Licences
National B licence gives (P) Gran Turismo Racing Kart Junior - 5,000 Cr
National B licence (Gold) gives (P) Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.4 T Sport '09 - 28,500 Cr
National A licence gives (P) Honda S2000 '06 - 37,800 Cr
National A licence (Gold) gives (P) KTM X-BOW Street '12 - 85,000 Cr
International B licence gives (P) Volkswagen Scirocco R '10 - 51,500 Cr
International B licence (Gold) gives (P) Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230) '02 - 125,000 Cr
International A licence gives (P) Land Rover Range Rover Evoque Coupe Dynamic '13 - 60,000 Cr
International A licence (Gold) gives (P) High End Performance G37 - 200,000 Cr
Super licence gives (P) Tesla Motors Tesla Roadster '08 - 100,000 Cr
Super licence (Gold) gives (P) Audi R8 LMS ultra (Audi Sport Team Phoenix) '12 - 400,000 Cr

Missions
National B (Gold) gives (P) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR T.M. EDITION Special Color Pack - 32,980 Cr
National A (Gold) gives (P) BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07 - 70,000 Cr
International B (Gold) gives (P) Lotus Elise Race Car '96 - 137,500 Cr
International A (Gold) gives (P) Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07 - 302,500 Cr
Super (Gold) gives (P) Nissan GT-R N24 GT Academy '12 - 500,000 Cr

Goodwood Festival of Speed
1-1 A110 (Gold)
1-2 X-BOW (Gold)
1-3 Dino 246 GT (Gold)
gives
(P) Light Car Company Rocket '07 - 100,000 Cr

2-1 507 (Gold)
2-2 Lotus Europa S.2 (Gold)
2-3 SLS AMG GT3 (Gold)
gives
(P) Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60 - 1,000,000 Cr

3-1 quattro S1 Rally Car (Gold)
3-2 One-77 (Gold)
3-3 GT40 Mark I (Gold)
gives
(P) Chevrolet Corvette StingRay Racer Concept '59 - 500,000 Cr

4-1 TZ3 Stradale (Gold)
4-2 Countach LP400 (Gold)
4-3 Stratos (Gold)
gives
(P) Cizeta V16T '94 - 636,660 Cr

5-1 GT-R Nismo GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport (Gold)
5-2 R18 TDI (Audi Sport Team Joest) (Gold)
5-3 Red Bull X2010 Prototype (Gold)
gives
(P) Citroën GT by Citroën Road Car - 1,450,000 Cr

Lunar Mission
no prize car

Coffee Breaks
no prize cars

 

[staticneuron]

Have to get golds on licenses, missions, and Goodwood.
Plenty of prizes, but more difficult to get.

Not really. I am finding GT6 a world easier than GT5. I have nothing but golds in every race I tried so far. I really don't remember being able to do that in GT5.

On the other hand I do notice that they do give out less cars. I am not sure if it has to do with MT, or if they are promising something more later on. Also the Vision GT vehicles are gifted first. And they have yet to add b spec. (why wasn't it there day one? I have no idea).

This is bad for car collectors, not so bad for people interested on completion because you can win most of the cars needed for the races very easily and that allows you to accumulate credits.

OP your list is bullshit

For your list, that includes side missions and special events. 31 cars to be won.
Op's list includes only A spec. 60 cars to be won. After you add in events and the fact that you receive gift cars for even hitting a certain amount of cars in your garage that is more than twice the cars you can receive. And that is before even talking about B spec.

I hope they have something really awesome in plan for B spec and credits/prizes because in a game with 1200 vehicles there is no reason for them to be stingy on the prize cars for event completions.

 

[Jezbollah]

Has any of the extra spec races and coffee time rewards been factored into the OP? Doesn't look like it.

 

[turnbuckle]

This microtransaction debate confuses me. If people really think Sony/PD was trying to force microtransactions on you, why on Earth would they have allowed Gamestop to give a preorder bonus of 25 cars worth in excess of 20 million in-game credits (worth about $150)? Wouldn't that have been the greatest preorder bonus ever? A "bonus" worth 2.5 times the retail price of the game itself?

That bonus isn't worth $150.

This is how they get you though, making something that's a decent pre-order bonus seem exceptional. $150 value!

With as many cars as they have, that "$150 value" is just a drop in the bucket; an enticement that leads to more people buying the game; an enticement that leads to more potential purchases of microtransactions.

I also cancelled my pre-order. Played the shit out of GT5 for about 5 months; last stopped playing late winter/early Spring 2011 after my PS3 fried from doing too much B-Spec lol.

I want the series to do well, I just hope the people buying the game are avoiding these MTs. I already know of a bunch of people spending money in Forza and NBA2K. I don't know anyone in my group of friends who bought GT6 though. We'll see what happens with GT7.

 

[Red Blaster]

there's currently an "exploit" in the game that lets you sell the vision gt mercedes over and over again and effectively receive infinite money

 

[Jprobespierre]

This microtransaction debate confuses me. If people really think Sony/PD was trying to force microtransactions on you, why on Earth would they have allowed Gamestop to give a preorder bonus of 25 cars worth in excess of 20 million in-game credits (worth about $150)? Wouldn't that have been the greatest preorder bonus ever? A "bonus" worth 2.5 times the retail price of the game itself?

Hah, no shit right? Anyone who has played this game knows that micro-transactions are an after thought. The game in no way forces them on you and in fact you kinda have to go out and find them within the game. I can understand not thinking the game is much of an upgrade of GT5 and passing on it, that is a legitimate argument, especially for fair weather fans of the racing genre. I find it hard to believe anyone would cancel a pre-order for this game based on the fact that they allow you to buy in game credits. There has been 20m credit cars in the game since GT4 and earning those is about the same, if not easier then it was then.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Has any of the extra spec races and coffee time rewards been factored into the OP? Doesn't look like it.

The OP didn't factor in tons of things when he decided to make this topic. That isn't even the biggest issue. The biggest issue is that he included B-Spec races in the GT5 list. If you take like for like lists (A-Spec GT5 vs. A-Spec GT6) there really isn't that big of a difference between them. And actually the biggest difference is that GT6 continually rewards you with higher end and and more expensive cars than GT5 does.

 

[Ludicrous Speed]

Or it could be their wallets are empty because 2 next gen consoles released two weeks before the launch of this game.

Too early to proclaim people voted with their wallets on this.

Doubt that. We'll see when the NPD drops, but I'm sure there will be many PS3/360 versions of games. People are still buying games for last gen systems, just not those with this microtransaction bullshit

 

[IISANDERII]

British Lightweight: Triumph Spitfire 1500 ‘74 (S)

 

[Kiraly]

OP is very skewed toward his agenda.

 

[WarMacheen]

Not really. I am finding GT6 a world easier than GT5. I have nothing but golds in every race I tried so far. I really don't remember being able to do that in GT5.

On the other hand I do notice that they do give out less cars. I am not sure if it has to do with MT, or if they are promising something more later on. Also the Vision GT vehicles are gifted first. And they have yet to add b spec. (why wasn't it there day one? I have no idea).

This is bad for car collectors, not so bad for people interested on completion because you can win most of the cars needed for the races very easily and that allows you to accumulate credits.



For your list, that includes side missions and special events. 31 cars to be won.
Op's list includes only A spec. 60 cars to be won. After you add in events and the fact that you receive gift cars for even hitting a certain amount of cars in your garage that is more than twice the cars you can receive. And that is before even talking about B spec.

I hope they have something really awesome in plan for B spec and credits/prizes because in a game with 1200 vehicles there is no reason for them to be stingy on the prize cars for event completions.

And the OP list is still bullshit. If you are going to compare, then do it right.

 

[Dead Man]

OP your list is bullshit

Career
Novice (All Stars) gives (P) Renault Sport Clio R.S. '11 - 36,400 Cr
National B (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Lancia DELTA HF Integrale Evoluzione '91 - 54,500 Cr
National B (All Stars) gives (P) Acura NSX '91 - 80,000 Cr
National A (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Dodge Challenger R/T '70 - 75,000 Cr
National A (All Stars) gives (P) RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7 - 100,000 Cr
International B (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Jaguar XKR-S '11 - 175,000 Cr
International B (All Stars) gives (P) Lamborghini Diablo GT2 '98 - 300,000 Cr
International A (Half of all Stars) gives (P) Chevrolet Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET SS - 500,000 Cr
International A (All Stars) gives (P) Ferrari Enzo Ferrari '02 - 1,000,000 Cr
Super (Half of all Stars) gives (P) McLaren F1 '94 - 1,000,000 Cr
Super (All Stars) gives (P) Audi Sport quattro S1 Pikes Peak '87 - 1,450,000 Cr

Licences
National B licence gives (P) Gran Turismo Racing Kart Junior - 5,000 Cr
National B licence (Gold) gives (P) Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.4 T Sport '09 - 28,500 Cr
National A licence gives (P) Honda S2000 '06 - 37,800 Cr
National A licence (Gold) gives (P) KTM X-BOW Street '12 - 85,000 Cr
International B licence gives (P) Volkswagen Scirocco R '10 - 51,500 Cr
International B licence (Gold) gives (P) Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230) '02 - 125,000 Cr
International A licence gives (P) Land Rover Range Rover Evoque Coupe Dynamic '13 - 60,000 Cr
International A licence (Gold) gives (P) High End Performance G37 - 200,000 Cr
Super licence gives (P) Tesla Motors Tesla Roadster '08 - 100,000 Cr
Super licence (Gold) gives (P) Audi R8 LMS ultra (Audi Sport Team Phoenix) '12 - 400,000 Cr

Missions
National B (Gold) gives (P) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR T.M. EDITION Special Color Pack - 32,980 Cr
National A (Gold) gives (P) BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07 - 70,000 Cr
International B (Gold) gives (P) Lotus Elise Race Car '96 - 137,500 Cr
International A (Gold) gives (P) Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07 - 302,500 Cr
Super (Gold) gives (P) Nissan GT-R N24 GT Academy '12 - 500,000 Cr

Goodwood Festival of Speed
1-1 A110 (Gold)
1-2 X-BOW (Gold)
1-3 Dino 246 GT (Gold)
gives
(P) Light Car Company Rocket '07 - 100,000 Cr

2-1 507 (Gold)
2-2 Lotus Europa S.2 (Gold)
2-3 SLS AMG GT3 (Gold)
gives
(P) Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60 - 1,000,000 Cr

3-1 quattro S1 Rally Car (Gold)
3-2 One-77 (Gold)
3-3 GT40 Mark I (Gold)
gives
(P) Chevrolet Corvette StingRay Racer Concept '59 - 500,000 Cr

4-1 TZ3 Stradale (Gold)
4-2 Countach LP400 (Gold)
4-3 Stratos (Gold)
gives
(P) Cizeta V16T '94 - 636,660 Cr

5-1 GT-R Nismo GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport (Gold)
5-2 R18 TDI (Audi Sport Team Joest) (Gold)
5-3 Red Bull X2010 Prototype (Gold)
gives
(P) Citroën GT by Citroën Road Car - 1,450,000 Cr

Lunar Mission
no prize car

Coffee Breaks
no prize cars

That still seems a lot less than 5.

EDIT: We should note that Endurance Races are no longer hours (or a day) long anymore. They are 24 minutes.

What in the fuck? I thought that was a rumour. Fucking pathetic.

The OP didn't factor in tons of things when he decided to make this topic. That isn't even the biggest issue. The biggest issue is that he included B-Spec races in the GT5 list. If you take like for like lists (A-Spec GT5 vs. A-Spec GT6) there really isn't that big of a difference between them. And actually the biggest difference is that GT6 continually rewards you with higher end and and more expensive cars than GT5 does.

Why shouldn't he have included B Spec? It is a normal mode of the game in 5. Just because it will be integrated in 6 doesn't mean it didn't give those prize cars in 5. Perfectly valid to include it.