DeafTourette
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Kyle Chandler to Star in HBO’s ‘Lanterns’ Series
The 'Friday Night Lights' Emmy winner is set to play Hal Jordan in the DC adaptation.
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HBO's DCU Hal Jordan Cast for 'Lanterns'
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Werewolf Jones
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Look I fuck with Josh Brolin heavy but if he got this it'd be a joke, dude just playing comic book characters every few years. This dude is probably the better choice. Looking forward to what they do with it.
DeafTourette
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I think that's the point. This Hal isn't young anymore... He's older and grizzled. John Stewart is the "rookie" when the show takes place.
FeralEcho
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Yeah,I just reacted without reading.
ManaByte
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
In the comics and toons (if it has both John and Hal) they always look like contemporaries even though Hal always acts like he is so much older than John (maybe by a decade or 15 years) ... This way it makes more sense if Hal is older he LOOKS older instead of looking like he and John are the same age
FeralEcho
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Words to live by.
TheAtomicPile
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Seems like a good setup for a GL show. Especially if it sticks to the "space cop" tropes of the past few years of comics, you should be able to get some mileage out of interactions between Hal as a grizzled vet and Jon as a rookie.
ManaByte
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The Lanterns are space cops.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I'm looking forward to this show, I never read the comics but I always felt that Green Lantern would be great as a high budget show
FunkMiller
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Ah yes. When I think space cops with magic rings I always thing of a gritty True Detective vibe.
Fuck me.
Fuck me.
TheAtomicPile
Member
Maybe they mean Night Country.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
It's going to be focused on a mystery on Earth. Not space centric
ETA: my guess... A super got killed.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
They had BETTER be referring to this...
There's yer Starfire, James Gunn!!!
Hope they go with the slutty dressed Starfire
Doom85
Member
Hope they go with the slutty dressed Starfire
Get that Scott Lobdell shit out of here! Dude sucked at writing characters. If you like the outfit, fine (though I personally think it’s sexier to leave some stuff to the imagination, the cast of Gurren Lagann agree with me if you remember that one episode), but I hate being reminded of how shit his writing was (dude thinks Starfire had no characterization other than flirting, and also contributed to removing the original Titans from existence for a while. His writing for Jason was occasionally okay, but that was it, but his run on Teen Titans also went to shit fast). Also, why was Roy Harper wearing a trucker hat? Dude looked like he lost a bet or something it felt so out of place on him.
I mean, what do you expect from the guy (Lobdell) who gave us the infamous Onslaught saga? “Aw man, guys, so the X-men find Juggernaut all beat up on the mansion’s front lawn and the only word he can say before passing out is, ‘Onslaught’. …..no, I don’t know who or what Onslaught is, but I’m sure if we just begin writing anyway and figure it out eventually this will be a beloved story as opposed to one of the most well known embarrassments of 90’s comics!”
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Get that Scott Lobdell shit out of here! Dude sucked at writing characters. If you like the outfit, fine (though I personally think it’s sexier to leave some stuff to the imagination, the cast of Gurren Lagann agree with me if you remember that one episode), but I hate being reminded of how shit his writing was (dude thinks Starfire had no characterization other than flirting, and also contributed to removing the original Titans from existence for a while. His writing for Jason was occasionally okay, but that was it, but his run on Teen Titans also went to shit fast). Also, why was Roy Harper wearing a trucker hat? Dude looked like he lost a bet or something it felt so out of place on him.
I mean, what do you expect from the guy (Lobdell) who gave us the infamous Onslaught saga? “Aw man, guys, so the X-men find Juggernaut all beat up on the mansion’s front lawn and the only word he can say before passing out is, ‘Onslaught’. …..no, I don’t know who or what Onslaught is, but I’m sure if we just begin writing anyway and figure it out eventually this will be a beloved story as opposed to one of the most well known embarrassments of 90’s comics!”
Onslaught Saga was awesome and I want my slutty dressed Starfire
Make her as two dimensional and as airheaded as possible
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Doom85
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If Age of Apocalypse was a normal guy telling a soulless but entertaining story by bashing his action figures together, then Onslaught was a guy with an arrow currently piercing his head yet he’s “somewhat” functioning but he’s also on way too much coffee and he is just screaming random nonsense for a “story” as he bashes his action figures together.
You can tell a basic story where it’s nothing but action and barely any character exploration and such, but Onslaught is just, “and then this happened because……reasons!”
Doom85
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Make her as two dimensional and as airheaded as possible
Well, unfortunately, she can’t be two dimensional like a drawing, because she’ll be live action thus she’s a 3D person!
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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Well, unfortunately, she can’t be two dimensional like a drawing, because she’ll be live action thus she’s a 3D person!
Make her an anime waifu
Doom85
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Make her an anime waifu
You’ll have to wait, the Suicide Squad Isekai director has said he would like to do a Flash anime.
Now, obviously that’s just his wish and not confirmation of what’s next, but it would be nice. Batman has had a ton of cartoons, Superman has had several, and Green Lantern got one, but both Flash and Wonder Woman are due for their animated series.
Trogdor1123
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It’s actually pretty good I think. He’s a great actor. Surprised he did it.
Doom85
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I am worried how long this means they’ll be able to keep Hal as an active Lantern in the new movie verse. Geoff Johns’ run is widely considered the definitive run of GL in the comics and Hal is the lead in that. Plus, you have his love interest with Carol (who becomes a member of the Star Sapphire Corps, one of the other Lantern corps who each have their own color and emotion that fuels their power), his friendship with Barry/Flash and Oliver/Green Arrow, etc. There’s a lot of story and character stuff you can do with Hal.
Granted, Green Lantern isn’t the most physically demanding role to play in terms of superhero roles. We don’t need to worry about Kyle doing back flips or anything for the most part. So we’ll see. Heck, if they do go the Parallex route (in the comics, Hal went insane after an enormous tragedy and became a villain called Parallex and then later sacrificed himself to save humanity to redeem himself, but when he was resurrected later on it was revealed Parallex was an alien entity that had possessed Hal and made him evil), when they resurrect him they could bring in a new similar-looking younger actor and say it is Hal but in a reconstructed body or something.
Granted, Green Lantern isn’t the most physically demanding role to play in terms of superhero roles. We don’t need to worry about Kyle doing back flips or anything for the most part. So we’ll see. Heck, if they do go the Parallex route (in the comics, Hal went insane after an enormous tragedy and became a villain called Parallex and then later sacrificed himself to save humanity to redeem himself, but when he was resurrected later on it was revealed Parallex was an alien entity that had possessed Hal and made him evil), when they resurrect him they could bring in a new similar-looking younger actor and say it is Hal but in a reconstructed body or something.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
That's kind of disappointing
I would rather they go to different planets to solve crime or something
Doom85
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That's kind of disappointing
I would rather they go to different planets to solve crime or something
I think they want to start off more grounded and build to more grander stories with the Lantern mythos.
The 2011 film, along with other issues, tried to do both with Hector Hammond (a more Earth-based threat) and Parallex (a more space-based threat) and failed miserably. So I’m glad they’re keeping the focus tighter for the first Lantern installment. I imagine this will lead to a future movie(s) where with a bigger budget they can have the focus mostly in space.
bitbydeath
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Nobody would talk about that show if it wasn’t for this scene.They had BETTER be referring to this...
There's yer Starfire, James Gunn!!!
Doubt it. IIRC from a certain panel here in that comic, she was just outright slutty, not just sluttily dressed. Not many people liked that incarnation and complained about it. It also made her kind of dumber(tho this is a bit harsh on my part) and more 'alien'.Hope they go with the slutty dressed Starfire
She has tons of other costumes to choose from though.
Also I have no idea why this is a series, it really should be a movie. Far too much CG required to be anything else. But I dunno, I've seen people content with the Superman series and it's series and CW stuff and that CG stuff looked like ass to me, so maybe people will welcome whatever CG this has.
But it does feel like they're just trying to pawn off potentially less successful IPs to series though. Having their cake and eating it. Also not gonna lie, I'm not looking forward to seeing Hal Jordan again, he is the lamest Lantern to me, Kyle, John, Guy, Jade, all fundamentally more intriguing personality and background wise, and he should have TRULY been replaced after they monumentally fucked his character over decades ago, but they just keep brining him back as the main GL.
But it does feel like they're just trying to pawn off potentially less successful IPs to series though. Having their cake and eating it. Also not gonna lie, I'm not looking forward to seeing Hal Jordan again, he is the lamest Lantern to me, Kyle, John, Guy, Jade, all fundamentally more intriguing personality and background wise, and he should have TRULY been replaced after they monumentally fucked his character over decades ago, but they just keep brining him back as the main GL.
ManaByte
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He’s in Superman played by Nathan Fillion (because Gunn really wanted to see him in a bowl cut). He’s part of Maxwell Lord’s corporate Justice League International with Hawkgirl and Mr Terrific.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
And now we have our John Stewart
Werewolf Jones
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Truly, truly happy for dude. Not seen his Netflix movie but he was the stand out for me in Old and I actually like that movie despite it having some stupid shit in it. He's gonna take the place of Johnathan Majors and he deserves it IMO.And now we have our John Stewart
SirKicksalot
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And now we have our John Stewart
Mid-Sized Sedan has been living rent-free in my head since I watched Old.
Doom85
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Not saying your opinion on Hal as a character isn’t valid even if I disagree, but the fact is Geoff Johns’ run with Hal as the lead was massively successful in sales, sometimes even outselling the main Batman book which is a big rarity for DC issue sales.
And it’s because they fucked up his character that his return was warranted. Emerald Twilight did him dirty and I approve of Johns retconning that garbage. I follow superheroes to be heroes, not lose their minds and become mass murderers. I’m pretty sure the Dark Phoenix Saga wouldn’t be as widely beloved if Chris Claremont had just made Jean Grey go crazy on her own (with no Dark Phoenix controlling her) and start murdering innocent people. Or Secret Empire would become one of the most detested comics of all time if HYDRA Cap had turned out to be the actual Steve Rogers. These characters have been followed as heroes for decades, very few people want to see their heroic journey suddenly pivot the opposite direction.
As for books after that run, hey, if Hal’s books sell more, that’s just how it is and you can’t blame DC for focusing on who sells more. And it’s not like they don’t give other Lanterns some occasional love, Simon and Jessica got a short series some years back, and John Stewart just had a 12-issue series. And at least they all still exist, lord knows Wally West fans actually got done dirty by DC (or mainly Dan Didio) for years until DC Rebirth happened (and even then it was a bumpy road as Heroes in Crisis fucked over Wally so we had to wait a few more years for that garbage story to get retconned away).
That opinion about was entirely subjective, hence why I phrased it like I did, "I'm not looking forward to seeing Hal Jordan again, he is the lamest Lantern to me".
I know that Hal is THE GL and why they keep going back to him, I just don't care about him and want to him again on screen over other GLs. He pretty much dominates most media with a GL featured outside of comics(and even in comics). The major assassination oh his character sucked(tho comic book chacracter assassination is pretty par for the course), but it was just a boot in the ass for a character I liked, which turned into a character I was just soured on and much better(more interesting to me character-wise) GL's popping up to fill his place, but never really got the spotlight because he's still there. Even in the JLA, I would much prefer JS or GG, as they both have friction with Batman, making the team dynamic more interesting.
So yea, whatever with Hal Jordan really, I'll watch it, but his character is just whatever to me. But I suppose it does depend on who's playing him and what they do with the character script wise. Saying I don't want to see Hal, doesn't mean there can't be a Hal portrayal that I really love on screen.
Trilobit
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And now we have our John Stewart
Dude has that superhero look. Never seen him in anything before, but might give the show a chance.
Doom85
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I don’t remember John having friction with Bats but I may have missed/forgotten those moments. But Bats definitely would butt heads with Hal, he’s the only one who wouldn’t forgive Hal after his sacrifice, and even in Rebirth he showed great skepticism towards Hal being innocent after all. I only read the first three arcs of New 52 Justice League, I know Bats started to respect Hal more up to Hal leaving the team (not sure if he comes back later pre-DC Rebirth).
Guy Gardener, I mean it’s easier to list the people who CAN stand working with him (Ice obviously…..Guy’s such a lucky bastard, and Jaime Reyes and Guy start off on a bad foot but learn to respect one another in Jaime’s first 2000’s run).
I’ve not read much with Kyle, honestly he’s the human Lantern I never really connected with (cool use of his Ring though), and I’ve not read enough issues with Simon and Jessica to form an opinion on them.
Don’t forget if Green Arrow is on the team, Hal obviously is the GL with the strongest connection to Oliver. So there is that. Obviously who The Flash is could make a difference, Barry was friends with Hal, while Wally was friends with Kyle. But of course adaptations can change things, the JL/JLU cartoon had John and Wally. And the Green Lantern animated series had two of its four characters be original (well, Aya was in the comics but only as a formless AI, and Razer was totally original for the cartoon) and they were great. Also even if John didn’t physically appear, hearing Guy name-drop him and Hal go, “the Daily Show guy?” was priceless.
Still my favorite joke involving GLs was in Young Justice Season 1.
(the League is discussing expanding their roster)
Barry: And Earth has another Green Lantern: Guy Gardener.
Hal and John (simultaneously): No.
Barry: But we could really-
Hal and John: No!
John and Bats butted heads in the comics a few times, far more than I've ever seen Hal VS Bats anyway. Guy butts heads with everyone and of course is infamous for being laid out by Batman by picking a fight with him without his ring.
"even in Rebirth he showed great skepticism towards Hal being innocent after all."
Funnily enough that's one of the times John and Bats had a quarrel, because he was standing up for Hal and Batman was complaining about him.
Batman vs Stewart
I wish I could remember and bring up the bigger argument I've seen them have though, but it's super annoying keeping up with comic book runs and it was in a run where it was mostly focused on John going off and doing something and coming back. I think there were a few changes to his power set, but I barely remember the details apart from the fight and a spaceship.
I think the synergy thing can go with any of the GLs honestly, as you said, Kyle has synergy with Wally, John has with Vixen and depending, Hawkgirl, umm, I don't even know who has synergy with Guy....and yea they're gonna do whatever in ana adaptation anyway as you said again.
Haven't watched Young Justice. After the JLU finished, I went back to the comics and stuck to the animated movies, and those just got worse over time.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Young Justice mostly focused on Nightwing and the other sidekicks but expanded a LOT in after the first season. It was really good... I highly recommend it! It's on Max.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Check out Rebel Ridge on Netflix. He stars in that. Total badass!
Doom85
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As I said before, lucky bastard!
I’ve heard Season 3 is mostly miss, but 4 is good if not back to the heights of what it once was, I’ve not watched 3 and 4 yet myself, but I have watched Seasons 1 and 2 and they slap hard IMHO.
March Climber
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Trilobit
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I checked it out today and enjoyed it. I even thought he'd make a good Batman-esque character as he went all punchy and arm-snappy in the ending and had a good physique for it. He's going to be excellent in the TV show.
DeafTourette
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I checked it out today and enjoyed it. I even thought he'd make a good Batman-esque character as he went all punchy and arm-snappy in the ending and had a good physique for it. He's going to be excellent in the TV show.
Speaking of Batman-esque... I wouldn't mind seeing The Signal or Batwing in Brave and the Bold
kondorBonk
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I prefer John Stewart anyhow. Hes a good fit for the Lantern Corp cop persona and can be used as a good "every man" when he starts to learn more about Hal Jordan.
Already having another human lantern also puts us closer to Guy Gardner and Kyle Rayner which is fun.,
Already having another human lantern also puts us closer to Guy Gardner and Kyle Rayner which is fun.,
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