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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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TheJesusFactor
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Oh please, now, you are just picking post that supports people jumping to Blu-ray. Here is one that was orginally Blu-ray and now he jumped on to HD-DVD
Sounds like he owns both and is more impressed with HD-DVD
Sounds like he owns both and is more impressed with HD-DVD
Ash Sparrow
Banned
So HD Dvd is having supply problems heh. Some people on this board are so full of crap. I can't help but thinking alot of these posts will come bck to haunt you guys. And i have no problem with Blu ray winning.
TheJesusFactor
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HDi is incredible, I just love it so much more over the old DVD menu system.
The Main Event
Member
TheJesusFactor said:
One of the many reasons I'm with the HD-DVD format, what they brought so far to it is exactly what I'm looking for as a high-definition format.
Hmmmm, don't know about the validity of this article. It could be wrong, but I'll let you be the judge. I'm not surprised by the fact that Blu-Ray discs are overtaking HD-DVD in sales lately, given the amount of titles coming out, but are the numbers accurate? Don't shoot the messenger!
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20070202090024.html
Sales of movies on Blu-ray discs have surpassed sales of motion pictures on HD DVDs in the USA, a market study by a market tracking agency claims. But that is not a surprise: Sony has bundled some PlayStation 3 game machines with a BD movie and included a voucher for another Blu-ray disc, essentially shipping several hundreds of thousands Blu-ray movies for free.
A recent market research report from Nielsen VideoScan claims that the numbers for the week ending January 7th demonstrate that for every 47.14 HD DVD movies sold, there are 100 Blu-ray movies sold, but on the following week, ending January 14th the amount of HD DVDs sold would be 38.36, for every 100 Blu-ray discs sold, PSX Extreme web-site claims.
This is not the first time when a research indicates about Blu-ray outpacing HD DVD sales. According to 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment, a studio that exclusively supports Blu-ray format, Blu-ray discs started to outsell HD DVDs in late December and by early January there were 3.5 BDs sold on every single HD DVD movie.
HD DVD manufacturers primarily Toshiba and Thompson said they shipped about 175 thousands of HD DVD players in 2006. But while the Blu-ray camp led by Sony Corp. did not indicate how many players were sold, it is known that Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. shipped one million PlayStation 3 gaming machines in late-2006 early-2007.
Many of the PlayStation 3 game consoles included Talladega Nights movie on Blu-ray and/or a voucher to purchase a Blu-ray movie for free, meaning that there were several hundred of thousands of Blu-ray movies purchased for free during the period.
Blu-ray disc fiercely competes with HD DVD format to replace conventional DVD in future. While Blu-ray offers larger storage space for content, HD DVD drives and discs are easier and cheaper to produce.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Picturehouse is a Time-Warner company and so Warner has the home video rights, so you will probably see it on both HD-DVD and Blu-ray 
ManaByte
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Midas said:Does anyone know where Picturehouse stands? Have they said anything about Blu-ray / HD-DVD? I want my Pan's Labyrinth in HD!!!
That's technically New Line; so they're on TotalHD.
Kleegamefan said:Picturehouse is a Time-Warner company and so Warner has the home video rights, so you will probably see it on both HD-DVD and Blu-ray
It's a division of New Line (within Time-Warner), so they handle their home video which means TotalHD only.
DarkJediKnight
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Free movies are never counted. If that is the case then HD DVD is in even worse shape since they've had that "Buy a HD DVD player and get 3 movies free" promotion forever.
It's strictly sales. Have a look at the comparsion graphs for minutes ago. Amazon isn't giving away free movies. Blu-ray is outselling HD DVD.
kaching said:I've been saying for quite awhile that the deeper interactivity that HDi/BDJ bring to the table over DVD would be one of the determining factors in favor of the HD movie formats
Hmm... yeah, it's a nice point to bring up for shrill enthusiasts, but it doesn't seem to be determining much.
That said, a big FU to Sony and whoever else vetoed iHD from BD. There wouldn't even BE A ****ING FORMAT WAR if they hadn't done that (given that MS would've then chosen to remain format neutral).
...and the beatdown continues........today DVDEmpire number
http://www.dvdempire.com/index.asp?userid=99365290642543&tab_id=60&site_id=69&site_media_id=0
Week: BD 66.67% HD-DVD 33.33%
Month: BD 69.93% HD-DVD 30.07
Year: BD 57.79% HD-DVD 42.21
Just give it up Universal, end this HD-DVD misery
http://www.dvdempire.com/index.asp?userid=99365290642543&tab_id=60&site_id=69&site_media_id=0
Week: BD 66.67% HD-DVD 33.33%
Month: BD 69.93% HD-DVD 30.07
Year: BD 57.79% HD-DVD 42.21
Just give it up Universal, end this HD-DVD misery
DarkJediKnight
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This is unbelievable!! Never expected this so soon. Despite the higher prices of STANDALONE (this has nothing to do with PS3s) prices, Blu-ray standalones are almost neck and neck with HD DVD players.
Therefore, those cheap Chinese HD DVD players that Toshiba is banking their success on just went down the tubes. Fact: Content sells and Blu-ray is obliterating HD DVD in content.
Pristine_Condition
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The Main Event said:
That XBitLabs column is a joke. Nielsen VideoScan numbers only count over-the-counter unit sales, not freebies or pack-ins.
XBitLabs should try doing a tiny bit of research sometime before jumping to wild conclusions and making fools out of themselves. The way VideoScan numbers are compiled is not a big secret. Even the little indy music/movie store I worked in while at university had access to their VHS and DVD numbers in various trade publications, and their methodology over the years is well-known, and a lot less arcane than something like NPD, which no one outside NPD really understands. Nielsen VideoScan is all hard data from POS.
I can only guess that since these numbers came out Amir has been freaking out and spreading the FUD around to anyone stupid enough to buy into these lame excuses. Looks like XBitLabs got suckered in.
Zombie James
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More AVS goodness:
NPD has no credibility :lol
NPD has no credibility :lol
Ash Sparrow
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I don't why would i care, i own neither at the moment. I'm still buying dvdsRaijinFY said:Sure...
TheJesusFactor
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Everyone should run to their local Best Buy or Circuit City and give a report here. That is better than any of the lies floating around.
Pristine_Condition
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TheJesusFactor said:
Might want to wait until tomorrow...
It looks like the Best Buy Buy 1, Get 1 Free Blu-ray Promo is coming back tomorrow:
Credit dvdirv @ HighDefDigest Forums.
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=2648
If true, I might pick up a few. While I wouldn't pay much for the less-than-stellar transfers of The Fifth Element, Underworld: Evolution, or House of the Flying Daggers, I wouldn't mind getting them for free. Jessica Alba in a bikini in HD for free seems like a good bonus to me too.
Someone on the HighDefDigest forum in another thread has found Reservoir Dogs, Running With Scissors, and American Psycho already on the shelves @ Best Buy, a little early.
DarkJediKnight
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Petrarca said:
I forgot what Kindergarten was like - until I took a peek at the HD DVD section at AVS. :lol
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
THE TIDES HAVE SHIFTED :lol
I would peek over at the "other board" not the "other other" board to see how they're reacting but I don't frequent it anymore.
I would peek over at the "other board" not the "other other" board to see how they're reacting but I don't frequent it anymore.
_leech_ said:
To be fair to the AVS folks, this is really the first true hardware "war" they ever encountered in the internet era. VHS/Beta was before the time of the AVS forums, and DVD was a pre-declared winner, its really the first format war they encountered where consumer interest and sales numbers are religiously followed. They are not seasoned pros like the folks here at GAF.
The knee-jerk reaction of the HD-DVD supporters where "don't like the data = source must be unreliable" is to a certain point expected. They are going to have to go through the slow and painful process of just accepting NPD numbers.
Doctor_No said:To be fair to the AVS folks, this is really the first true hardware "war" they ever encountered in the internet era. VHS/Beta was before the time of the AVS forums, and DVD was a pre-declared winner, its really the first format war they encountered where consumer interest and sales numbers are religiously followed. They are not seasoned pros like the folks here at GAF.
The knee-jerk reaction of the HD-DVD supporters where "don't like the data = source must be unreliable" is to a certain point expected. They are going to have to go through the slow and painful process of just accepting NPD numbers.
So the question is, will we see monthly thursday NPD thread at AVS? ...like we do here at GAF:lol
The Main Event
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Apparently, Toshiba got a spot to advertise the HD-DVD format along with their $200 rebate when buying a Toshiba HDTV in conjunction with an HD-DVD player during the Superbowl.
Let's see how it'll turn out.
Let's see how it'll turn out.
CurseoftheGods
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Why are people stating that HDi is better BD-J? Doesn't BD-J have everything that HDi has?
CurseoftheGods said:
the only possible reason for saying iHD is better is because the tools for authoring iHD are arguably easier to use.
On the other hand, Java is more well-known to programmers and any ease-of-use disparity will disappear as demand for BD-J authoring tools increases.
TheJesusFactor
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CurseoftheGods said:
Its simple, BD-J does not work right now, in fact they haven't finalized it. HDi is working and is finalized. Basically, you can't get interactivity on any Blu-ray movie for another 6 months. And even then, your current collection will not work with the new standard. This is the main reason why Warner Bro is hold off release any new movies.
Pristine_Condition
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Petrarca said:
Now it's #29. Will it crack the Top 25?
The Main Event said:
Where did you get that info? According to the Superbowl Ad runsheet I got, Toshiba doesn't have an ad in the Super Bowl.
As an aside, it is interesting to note that there aren't going to be many movies advertised during the Super Bowl, either. Only three are scheduled. Two from Disney, (Meet the Robinsons and Wild Hogs) One from Lionsgate (Pride). Big change from last year, which had a lot of movies.
DarkJediKnight
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C'mon BDA, get that damn java 1.1 working so I can get my hands on this 50gb disc. I own the HD DVD version and it's really nice, but the picture is softer than King Kong, Hulk, Crank, Covenant, etc... The VC-1 bitrate was really low so here's hoping the Blu-ray version will get a new transfer.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
jjasper said:
HD-DVD Hut?
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