Anyone else get excited when you see a CRT out in the wild? Bonus points if it's still used and functional.
The Sony BVM-F24 is the only CRT TV that did 1080p. If you recycled one of those, goddamn, that's a shame.
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It may have been 1080i. It was a Samsung full screen TV that I purchased for the Xbox 360, which basically required an HD TV. Two man job to move it.
That looks fantastic. Which shaders are you using?I still have SD CRT for my retro consoles, but with how good 240p/480p can look on a modern screen thanks to CRT phosphor emulation, I no longer feel the need to play on the real thing, because I can get better sharpness (PVM like) thanks to shaders (SD CRT blurs the image very noticeably). PS2 games have never looked better on my SD CRT.
Try to guess which is the real CRT and which is the CRT shader.
You need a 4K HDR display to get the most accurate results, because only HDR allows you to have a phosphor mask at 100% opacity.
Sony Megatron Colour Video Monitor
The Sony Megatron Colour Video Monitor was the greatest CRT Sony never made. Story At the end of the 90’s in an underground R&D bunker located several kilometers below the Sony Tokyo HQ , Sony engineers were developing a revolutionary new screen for CRT’s that could morph its physical...
The problem with 1440p monitors is that the vast majority of shaders are either optimized for 4K or 1080p, so the image is too dim (because the 4K phosphor mask is too compressed and that results in a loss of brightness), or not very well defined (because 1080p does not allow for a convincing phosphor mask).
It's definitely become more rare to see good CRTs. I was drowning in them 10 years ago. When I went looking last fall, I only found a few worth investigating, and 3/5 of them ended up being sold off as they had critical flaws.
That's only true if you're upscaling the 240p/480p image without any kind of effort to make it look good. With CRT shaders (phosphor mask emulator) old games look even better on high resolution display becasue you can emulate PVM display as well. Standard CRT TVs simply blured the picture too much, making the mini-maps in GTA SA on the PS2 console nearly unreadable. The same PS2 game on PVM has perfectly readable minimaps and look much better in general. You can get the same results on a modern display thanks to phosphor mask emulation on PC (CRT shaders), or buy retrotink 4K upscaler if you want to play on the original consoles. Retrotink 4K is expensive, but it has amazing CRT pshosphor mask emulation. The only advantage a real CRT has is better motion quality.
Homie, it's around $1000 CAD, and it still doesn't handle interlaced video as well as a CRT (but nothing can in real-time anyway). If someone is paying $975 more (plus the cost of an OLED TV) over my CRT to see a mini-map a bit more clearly, then they are really dedicated.
The post doesn't say, but which emulators does this work with? Can I use it with retroarch?I still have SD CRT for my retro consoles, but with how good 240p/480p can look on a modern screen thanks to CRT phosphor emulation, I no longer feel the need to play on the real thing, because I can get better sharpness (PVM like) thanks to shaders (SD CRT blurs the image too much). PS2 games have never looked better on my SD CRT.
Try to guess which is the real CRT and which is the CRT shader.
You need a 4K HDR display to get the most accurate results, because only HDR allows you to have a phosphor mask at 100% opacity.
Sony Megatron Colour Video Monitor
The Sony Megatron Colour Video Monitor was the greatest CRT Sony never made. Story At the end of the 90’s in an underground R&D bunker located several kilometers below the Sony Tokyo HQ , Sony engineers were developing a revolutionary new screen for CRT’s that could morph its physical...
Horizontal linearity is not adjustable on any analog CRT, unfortunately.
Yeah that's what I'm reading. It's such a shame because the TV is so amazing other than that, but I just can't get past the swimming. Half the appeal of a CRT is the motion clarity, which is completely destroyed when half the screen is wobbling, even slightly, when scrolling.
Yeah, I actually always preferred curved screen CRTs but this just seemed too awesome to pass up for free. Now I'm just going to straight up avoid flat screens, no matter how great they seem.
CRTs vary in quality a TON, and sony's tend to be among the best in my experience.
Yes, they are. It isn't even the image quality that is the issue, it's the display latency.
Good Will (if you live in the states) have most of the back walls of their stores filled with CRT's.
An argument can be made for connecting the original Xbox to the 720p lcd via component cables.
Really? I thought Goodwill stopped taking them. At least in my area, that was the case years ago.
This weekend I saw a few in a store in my area. I have never tried to take one there, maybe they did?
I thought they stopped taking them and also flat out were destroying any existing inventory. Maybe they are back to taking them since there is clearly a demand. I may go out this weekend and check some of my local stores.
Because the OG Xbox can output at 480p, 720p and 1080i. It can display pretty well on a HD tv.
