I decided on my next major hobby/project: I want to learn 5 languages.

The Eraser

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I want to be proficient in multiple languages, I think it would be a useful skill to have. This is a long-term project that I plan on keeping up with over the years. It isn't like a short term goal that by X date I need to accomplish this. I think it will make more sense looking at it that way. Why 5? Admittedly, it's arbitrary. If I ever do accomplish it, I probably won't stop at 5, especially if I'm enjoying myself or getting something out of it. If I feel like I'm not, then I may not go to 5, I'll see and play it by ear.
Good luck then (y)
He'd be better off learning it well and so would you. 🤣
Learn it good ? 😆
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kruis

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Honestly, I think you are setting your goals way too high. Learning one language and being fluent is a big task. You were unable to maintain Italian according to your own post. Now imagine trying to maintain multiple languages you are weak in.

I would lower your goals to two languages and tell yourself to revisit others when you have become fluent in those two. Setting your goals too high can sometimes be counterproductive and demoralizing.

Yep. I'd start with just one foreign language and ONLY when you've reached a high enough level with that first language add a second one.

I'm Dutch and I speak three other languages that were taught in school. I'm fluent in English, pretty fluent in German and my French is poor. I started learning Russian on a whim in 2019. Started with DuoLingo and "The New Penguin Russian Course: A Complete Course for Beginners ". Six months later I joined a weekly evening class teaching Russian for a year or so.

It's now 2025 and I would rate my knowledge of Russian at the lower end of B2 at most. I can read Russian newspapers, but I still lack the vocabulary to comfortably read short stories or novels in Russian. I still have to look up tons of words.

I listen to a number of Russian language podcasts at B1/B2/C1 level every week and I'm a fan of Russian pop/rock music (enjoy singing along while studying the lyrics), that's how I slowly work my way to higher proficiency. That's just learning ONE language after six years. If I'd tackled three languages at the same time, I'm sure I'd given up after a year and all that effort would have been completely wasted.
 
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I’m doing something similar (learning Korean/Japanese/relearning French/Italian/Spanish). The reading/writing is the hardest thing for Korean/Japanese. My brain couldn’t do both at once so I dropped Korean for now until I learn Japanese. Anki decks are crucial as are time and discipline. I’m spending about 30 min on Japanese and 15-30 on the other languages since they’re similar (focus is on Spanish). Slow going but my ADHD brain is adapting and learning.
 

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I want to work on my German. Maybe some French and a lil bit of Spanish or Portuguese....

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I see щ as a longer form of ш with a slight bump/hesitation/micropause in the middle of that sound. It's easy to conceptualize this when you see the щ in the middle of a word. Just pronounce that word as if it had two consecutive ш sounds.


So it's sh and shhh? I can hear it after the video. I've subscribed. Thanks!
 

Gp1

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Good luck If you think that the Cyrillic alphabet is you main problem... wait until you see the cases table, declinations and inflections.
Props to the guy that learned Polish, Polish from what i heard is like Russian hard version.

My advice would be start with something close to a language that you are fluent. I know that you value the entire Japanese culture etc. but do not underestimate how hard it is to learn a language as an adult.

English? Go Dutch (easy and simple grammar/structure with many English cognates), Nordic languages (Swedish or Norwegian) or German (the "same" as Dutch but the structure is way more complex)

Fluent in Spanish? Go with Portuguese, Italian, French etc.
 
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kruis

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Good luck If you think that the Cyrillic alphabet is you main problem... wait until you see the cases table, declinations and inflections.
Props to the guy that learned Polish, Polish from what i heard is like Russian hard version.

My advice would be start with something close to a language that you are fluent. I know that you value the entire Japanese culture etc. but do not underestimate how hard it is to learn a language as an adult.

English? Go Dutch (easy and simple grammar/structure with many English cognates), Nordic languages (Swedish or Norwegian) or German (the "same" as Dutch but the structure is way more complex)

Fluent in Spanish? Go with Portuguese, Italian, French etc.

There's no point in learning an "easy" language if you're not interested in that culture as well. Why spend hundreds of hours learning Dutch if you really have no interest in reading books by Dutch authors in their native language, listening to Dutch songs and watching Dutch tv shows.

Learning a new language is much easier if you're already "hooked" into one or more aspects of that culture. Perhaps you want to bond with distant relatives? Speak with friends or colleagues in their native language? Perhaps you want to learn a new language so you can enjoy books, movies or tv shows that would otherwise be off limits to you? You need a strong motivation to help you stick with learning a new language, otherwise you're going to fail.
 

Gp1

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There's no point in learning an "easy" language if you're not interested in that culture as well. Why spend hundreds of hours learning Dutch if you really have no interest in reading books by Dutch authors in their native language, listening to Dutch songs and watching Dutch tv shows.

Learning a new language is much easier if you're already "hooked" into one or more aspects of that culture. Perhaps you want to bond with distant relatives? Speak with friends or colleagues in their native language? Perhaps you want to learn a new language so you can enjoy books, movies or tv shows that would otherwise be off limits to you? You need a strong motivation to help you stick with learning a new language, otherwise you're going to fail.

It was an example. Of course you're going for something that you are, at least mildly interested with.
 

Tams

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There's no point in learning an "easy" language if you're not interested in that culture as well. Why spend hundreds of hours learning Dutch if you really have no interest in reading books by Dutch authors in their native language, listening to Dutch songs and watching Dutch tv shows.

Learning a new language is much easier if you're already "hooked" into one or more aspects of that culture. Perhaps you want to bond with distant relatives? Speak with friends or colleagues in their native language? Perhaps you want to learn a new language so you can enjoy books, movies or tv shows that would otherwise be off limits to you? You need a strong motivation to help you stick with learning a new language, otherwise you're going to fail.

A lot of this really depends on why you are learning a language and how you best learn.

Some people do just like the challenge of learning a language. Some like the grammar and going through verb declension table is their idea of a good Friday night in.

That said, most people probably are learning a language to enjoy a certain culture, and for that immersive learning is great.
 
I'd have a go at a natural language conversation style app like -Talkpal. Seems to be a better everyday approach to learning a language, verbally at least.

Also as a curveball how about a programming language? Shit literally changes the way you think.
 

dsp

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Wouldn't it be a bit easier... a lot easier to stick to languages that fall within the same family or at least have something, ANYTHING, in common? I don't say this to deter you but the languages you've picked are all very difficult and Russian has nothing even remotely in common with the other two, afaik. I don't know anything about Japanese or Mandarin but, after looking through Wikipedia, at least Japanese uses a lot of loan words from Chinese which, I imagine, will make it a somewhat easier to understand the two when you start to dig into etymology for a broader understanding. The point is, I think you should scratch either Russian or Japanese AND Mandarin from your list. Learning both Mandarin and Japanese will take a long time (lifetime) but at least there's something in common between the two (loanwords, beyond that I have no idea if there's anything in common at all) even if it's small... Unfortunately I imagine (because I genuinely have no idea) that the similarities between Japanese and Chinese are about as close as Russian is to English so... good luck! but at least there's SOME relationship, something that might reinforce your knowledge of one language with the other, no matter how small.

If you said to me that you were wanting to learn 5 different Romance languages then I'd say go for it because that's absolutely a doable thing. At that point the hardest thing you're going to face is having an acceptable accent in all 5. I don't really speak any of those languages but you could show me the title of some scientific paper written in Italian and I could probably decipher most of it just because of how ingrained Latin is in English and the sciences... in that sense of learning, you're just taking some existing linguistic foundation, strengthening its roots and creating new branches instead of trying to plant some entirely new and foreign tree.

English? Go Dutch (easy and simple grammar/structure with many English cognates), Nordic languages (Swedish or Norwegian) or German (the "same" as Dutch but the structure is way more complex)

English is such a strange bastardized language. I was watching some videos on Dutch grammar and the lady said werkwoorden to mean verbs and it really just angered me that we don't have or use so many compound words like werkwoorden when teaching grammar in English. How much easier would it be for a child to understand workwords over verbs? Simple words with a prefix and suffix that already have some real associations inside a child's mind.
 
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Reizo Ryuu

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You'll definitely need some excuse to also speak the languages, because speaking is a whole different skillset then just passively translating.
 
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