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[awwr999999]

This 10mm thick CRT looks to be the perfect display for TV and gaming.
*Full color journal PDF, article starts on p.269
Philips developed it back in the nineties under high secrecy and by the time it was ready plasma had 'taken over' so it was abandoned entirely in 1997.
In light of plasma failing and newer flat screen monitors not being as great as they were supposed to be this could be the ideal zero latency CRT display of the future.
AFAICT, the display doesn't have any fixed resolution which solves one of the biggest flaws with every 'modern' TV.
Plug-and-play functionality across devices (4k UHD Blu-ray, broadcast TV, PS1, PS2, PS5) without upscaling or the bulk of a massive CRT could well be the solution to most of our problems.
All of this tech is obviously off-patent.

 

[Jaguar Victory]

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[rofif]

No picture. Was never real

 

[Tarin02543]

Aka SED television, Auoptronics holds the patents now. Hopefully someone will make a flat crt in the future

 

[Unknown Soldier]

MicroLED will reach mass production long before any tech based on CRT will ever return

 

[Soodanim]

Energy consumption is too important for it not to be a huge factor in whether this would be viable or not.

However, the idea of a 1cm thick CRT is essentially a dream display if viable at larger sizes

 

[RagnarokIV]

I wish.
But I’m finding peace with OLED. It improves year on year and you can handle low resolution stuff with incredible and beautiful CRT simulation.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

More than happy with OLED, I’m not going back to CRT “blacks”

The only reason I’d go near such a device is to play old lightgun shooters.

 

[awwr999999]

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Here's the journal entry: https://file.io/iizRkDb1t7TT

 

[awwr999999]

No picture. Was never real

The PDF claims it's the same as regular CRT.

 

[cyberheater]

I bought an old 14inch Sony Trinitron for when I must get my nostalgia fix.
It still looks amazing and there is nothing quite like it as yes I’ve got an OLED and have installed CRT shaders but they don’t emulate it 100 percent.

 

[March Climber]

Here's the journal entry

Does it only exist as text or do you have any conceptual pictures?

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

I bought an old 14inch Sony Trinitron for when I must get my nostalgia fix.
It still looks amazing and there is nothing quite like it as yes I’ve got an OLED and have installed CRT shaders but they don’t emulate it 100 percent.

OLED cant emulate CRT perfectly because CRT has perfect motion quality, while OLED has just acceptable motion quality even at 240Hz. But the CRT phosphor mask itself can be perfectly emulated by the HDR Sony PVM shaders in Retroarch. Unfortunately there is no way to use these PVM HDR shaders in other eumators or normal games, so I have to use SDR shaders in reshade, but these look worse. SDR shaders simply cannot emulate CRT phosphor masks at 100% opacity, so there are problems with color tints, gamma, bloom.

 

[RoadHazard]

At least post an image, OP. Your sketchy download link is broken.

 

[Ywap]

Oled with BFI has been my saviour

 

[awwr999999]

Does it only exist as text or do you have any conceptual pictures?

Here's the color version with pics, starts on page 267.
Fig. 1. Schematic drawing of a simple Zeus panel.
Fig. 4. Photograph of an experimental 17” Zeus display (improved design with six-fold multiplexing) in operation, showing a rather good performance in 400 lux ambient light.
Fig. 5. Close-up photograph of a test picture displayed on the same Zeus panel as used for Fig. 4.

 

[dave_d]

I'm guessing we'd have a better chance of seeing a laser phosphor TV take off than this one. (You know, since they were working on it almost 30 years ago) Admittedly we'd probably have to see patents expire before any of that. Anyway I'll just chime in with with displays there's no perfect display, they all have trade-offs.(Yeah I stole that from the blur-buster guy.)

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

17 Inch?? No thanks.

 

[BlackTron]

a 17" thin CRT we can't see is the perfect companion piece to the all-digital PS2 not coming out

 

[Ulysses 31]

MicroLED will reach mass production long before any tech based on CRT will ever return

MicroLED will combine the strengths of OLED and QLED, it won't solve the issues with sample and hold tech when it comes to stutter and motion clarity.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

MicroLED will combine the strengths of OLED and QLED, it won't solve the issues with sample and hold tech when it comes to stutter and motion clarity.

Simply blink the MicroLED's between each screen refresh

This is how backlight strobing in LCD monitors and TV's work today to improve motion clarity by removing sample-and-hold

 

[Trilobit]

This 10mm thick CRT looks to be the perfect display for TV and gaming.
*Full color journal PDF, article starts on p.269
Philips developed it back in the nineties under high secrecy and by the time it was ready plasma had 'taken over' so it was abandoned entirely in 1997.
In light of plasma failing and newer flat screen monitors not being as great as they were supposed to be this could be the ideal zero latency CRT display of the future.
AFAICT, the display doesn't have any fixed resolution which solves one of the biggest flaws with every 'modern' TV.
Plug-and-play functionality across devices (4k UHD Blu-ray, broadcast TV, PS1, PS2, PS5) without upscaling or the bulk of a massive CRT could well be the solution to most of our problems.
All of this tech is obviously off-patent.

It would be insanely cool to peek into a parallel universe where CRTs kept being the only TV tech and see how it had developed to this day.

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I had none of those. I hope you use Ublock Origin on all your browsers.

 

[dave_d]

Simply blink the MicroLED's between each screen refresh

This is how backlight strobing in LCD monitors and TV's work today to improve motion clarity by removing sample-and-hold

Pretty much with faster displays you can do more advanced versions of this like rolling scan to further improve motion clarity.

 

[cyberheater]

 

[Imtjnotu]

MicroLED will combine the strengths of OLED and QLED, it won't solve the issues with sample and hold tech when it comes to stutter and motion clarity.

We're still a far ways off from micro. A sub 100um TV at 55 inches is currently impossible at 4k.

Getting down to 10 or even 5um for mass production is going to be a physics miracle

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

I love these old tech documents, very interesting concept, thanks for sharing !

 

[marquimvfs]

a 17" thin CRT we can't see is the perfect companion piece to the all-digital PS2 not coming out

What are you talking about? The All Digital PS2 is very real, you can buy it here

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mspcXQj

Spoiler: Spoiler

LOL

 

[ReyBrujo]

 

[awwr999999]

a 17" thin CRT we can't see is the perfect companion piece to the all-digital PS2 not coming out

We will see an inexpensive (cheap HW and relatively cheap/fast game dev) legacy platform brought back from the dead as a digital-only platform.
It's going to be either Sony or Nintendo that leads the way and then both Sony and Nintendo as the other jumps in to play catch up.

Sony has to make a clean break from physical media and do like Steam, period.
Every Steam purchase is risk free in a way that insures users are happy (at least for 2hrs) every time they spend money on Steam.
Physical media takes the risk out of buying a PS game at the expense of undercutting both PS and studio profits via endless resale.
Pulling off the physical media Band-Aid all at once will make people angry - unless Sony gives them what they want more than anything else.
PS6 drops with full PS2/1 HW, updated EE+GS chip, full PS2/1 disc BC, full x86 PS digital BC(PS4/5) and zero x86 PS disc BC.
Users gain disc BC for thousands of PS2/1 games and lose disc BC for PS4/5 games. Everybody's PS2/1 game collection becomes relevant again.
With this move they shift the advantage from physical media to digital-only, adopting a repository like Steam has with every version of every game being available.
PS2/1 digital-only games would have full DualSense feedback and play off of NVME with faster load times than PS4/5/6 games or PS2/1 discs.

 

[sachos]

That would be sick, but that recent video from John from DF talking about the new Sony OLED 480hz monitor gives me hope. That display sounds surreal, and i believe John when it comes to display motion quality.

 

[BlackTron]

We will see an inexpensive (cheap HW and relatively cheap/fast game dev) legacy platform brought back from the dead as a digital-only platform.
It's going to be either Sony or Nintendo that leads the way and then both Sony and Nintendo as the other jumps in to play catch up.

Sony has to make a clean break from physical media and do like Steam, period.
Every Steam purchase is risk free in a way that insures users are happy (at least for 2hrs) every time they spend money on Steam.
Physical media takes the risk out of buying a PS game at the expense of undercutting both PS and studio profits via endless resale.
Pulling off the physical media Band-Aid all at once will make people angry - unless Sony gives them what they want more than anything else.
PS6 drops with full PS2/1 HW, updated EE+GS chip, full PS2/1 disc BC, full x86 PS digital BC(PS4/5) and zero x86 PS disc BC.
Users gain disc BC for thousands of PS2/1 games and lose disc BC for PS4/5 games. Everybody's PS2/1 game collection becomes relevant again.
With this move they shift the advantage from physical media to digital-only, adopting a repository like Steam has with every version of every game being available.
PS2/1 digital-only games would have full DualSense feedback and play off of NVME with faster load times than PS4/5/6 games or PS2/1 discs.

Yeah I saw this wall of shit the first time, that's how I knew to make fun of you.