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[MMaRsu]

Both are mediocre and don't generate a lot of interest. One is just performing less bad.

What a dumb idiotic opinion. One is a 80+ MC game, the other is a shutdown failure.

 

[Sooner]

That's not good. Better start getting these games on PS5 day one quickly.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

What a dumb idiotic opinion. One is a 80+ MC game, the other is a shutdown failure.

Hifi Rush was a 80+ game as well, yet Tango is history too.

 

[MMaRsu]

What makes you think I care?

Yeah ignore list for you bud.

Zero arguments, just constant nonsense coming from you.

You dont care about good or fun games, you care about console wars.

Sad

 

[MMaRsu]

Hifi Rush was a 80+ game as well, yet Tango is history too.

And that makes it a mediocre game? Your talking a lot of nonsense.

 

[ViciousAgenda]

Well, that's a shame. It looks like a good game.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

And that makes it a mediocre game? Your talking a lot of nonsense.

I thought I was on your ignore list?

 

[MiguelItUp]

Game is awesome. I fully believe that it'll make what's necessary in the long run. I feel more like people want this game to fail more so than it being a "that's a shame" scenario.

 

[LordCBH]

What a shame. Indy is actually pretty good. Not yet sure if the first person view won me over, but the game itself is damn good.

 

[Humdinger]

By all accounts this looks like a solid game but the Indy IP is just so boring to me I’m not really interested in trying it (when it comes to PS5) unless it’s overwhelmingly well thought of.

Complex puzzles are this thing for me too. Sometimes I enjoy them but spending too much time trying to fit together obtuse details isn’t something I really want to be doing.

Fwiw, multiple reviewers have stated that the puzzles are quite easy. The companions also seem to help you out with hints, whether you want/need them or not.

But if the Indy IP is "so boring to me," then I wouldn't bother. In my case, I like the Indy IP - the original one, from decades ago, not what Disney turned it into - but it's the stealth focus that is making me hesitate. The story sounds good.

It's only $10 but the $70 price tag (in general) has turned out to be quite a mental hurdle for me. I just don't want to pay that unless I have zero qualms about the game. There's just too much stuff for cheaper.

Same here. I haven't purchased a game at $70 this entire generation. It just seems like too much - unless it's for a massive WRPG I know is going to be great, and I'm foaming at the mouth to play it, but that hasn't happened in years.

 

[adamsapple]

The real problem is that you just don't like what I'm saying

If I said the exact same things about Veilguard, nobody would give a shit.
But because Xbox is the publisher, somehow I'm 'console warring'.

Yes, when notorious Xbox fanboys like GHG call you off your rocker, you know it's only because of the publisher of the game.

Couldn't possibly be because multiple people across platforms are calling your direct comparisons to Concord dumb. No, sir.

 

[Zacfoldor]

These Steam CCU threads are so thirsty...
I've played this on four different "platforms" - Xbox, PC, Geforce Now and Xcloud, none of which are Steam.
It's not 2016 any more.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Yes, when notorious Xbox fanboys like GHG call you off your rocker, you know it's only because of the publisher of the game.

Couldn't possibly be because multiple people across platforms are calling your direct comparisons to Concord dumb. No, sir.

So? Do all PS fans have to agree on everything?

I'm not here for a popularity contest.

 

[Heisenberg007]

These Steam CCU threads are so thirsty...
I've played this on four different "platforms" - Xbox, PC, Geforce Now and Xcloud, none of which are Steam.
It's not 2016 any more.

Because Steam is the only platform out of the 4 you mentioned where people had to have bought the game.

And that determines the potential commercial success or failure of the game (which then translates into potential sequels or not, studio closures, blah blah).

 

[Wesleyalucard]

Nobody cares about Indy in 2024

 

[JCK75]

It took forver to unlock I was not able to even attempt a play until last night.

 

[coachmcguirk91]

It sucks that it appears Indy is not selling well. Having said that, I would much rather Machine Games work on another IP than a sequel Indy game. I think a sequel would be would wholly unnecessary

 

[grvg]

I didnt know this game existed until a couple of days ago, and i didn't know it was an imsim until this morning - and I visit this site regularly. Also, I believe it is raytracing required on PC?

Something went really wrong during the amp up to launch phase.

 

[adamsapple]

Why? Do all PS fans have to agree on everything?

I'm not here for a popularity contest.

I don't think even you know what you're here for other than misusing the term 'objectively' and making asinine comparisons to a game with a two week shelf life.

Have fun wallowing in your delusion, KJ.

 

[Ristifer]

Love that the game is getting good reviews, because now I can see how badly people need to come up with some other narrative to fulfill their crusade (pun intended). And here we are again, with the same exact people that were shitting on this game before it even released. It's so easy to see, too. No point in even arguing with them, because they'll just come up with something else next time.

Is Indy as an IP pretty much toast in 2024? Probably. I'll still take good games, though. Sorry, not sorry.

 

[sainraja]

I don't understand this obsession people have with seeing numbers that basically show how many other people are into the same thing that they are into, how many others spent money on the same thing that they spent on, because when it comes down to it, that is exactly what this is. It is an odd need for people to feel good about what they are playing because so many others are as well. I guess we all just want to be part of the "majority". The need to fit in, even when it comes to something like this, is strong and this is all a bit funny to me.

Love that the game is getting good reviews, because now I can see how badly people need to come up with some other narrative to fulfill their crusade (pun intended). And here we are again, with the same exact people that were shitting on this game before it even released. It's so easy to see, too. No point in even arguing with them, because they'll just come up with something else next time.

Is Indy as an IP pretty much toast in 2024? Probably. I'll still take good games, though. Sorry, not sorry.

What you are describing happens with any new game regardless of platform. The only difference, is that the people you are speaking of and the people they are in conversation with, is that they all are playing opposite roles from the roles they'd be playing if the platform in question is not one they have aligned themselves with. This is nothing new. It's been a thing ever since "competing" platforms has been a thing. Some games can reach above that, even if exclusive, but many don't and the only reason, I believe, the Xbox folks are more sensitive to this type of thing is because of MS' new strategy. Otherwise, this is just the norm and people doing what they do, for their platform of choice. Rinse/repeat.

 

[Mortisfacio]

I don't care about player numbers. I care about good games. This game looks enjoyable and Skill Ups glowing review gave me the push. I'm installing.

 

[Thief1987]

Yes, when notorious Xbox fanboys like GHG

You seem sarcastic but have you seen his avatar?

 

[twilo99]

The GAF hope for this game to fail is still alive and well

 

[Loomy]

I don't care about player numbers. I care about good games. This game looks enjoyable and Skill Ups glowing review gave me the push. I'm installing.

Amen. Not just in gaming, but in music, and other forms of entertainment as well - people gravitate towards the thing that is popular. And because we live in polarizing times, if something isn't doing gangbusters it's assumed to be a failure and the people who only want to be associated with what's popular ignore it.

It's a shitty way to consume media. Partly why these CCU threads are stupid and pointless.

 

[Aguero9320]

Because Steam is the only platform out of the 4 you mentioned where people had to have bought the game.

And that determines the potential commercial success or failure of the game (which then translates into potential sequels or not, studio closures, blah blah).

You don't think Game Pass players factors into Microsoft's calculation of success?

 

[Aces High]

Just look at Phil Spencer:

Takes over Xbox
Sells no consoles
Goes 3rd party
Sells no games either

What will he greenlight next?

Knight Rider?

 

[Last Hearth]

I don’t understand the thinking of paying for an IP and then design your game in a way that ensures the main draw doesn’t appear on the player’s screen at all.
I mean other IPs like say Star Wars at least has iconic villains like Darth Vader that can show up.
Indiana Jones is the only iconic person of the property, his villains are generic Nazis. If he’s not on the screen, your game is just generic treasure hunter game.

 

[Klayzer]

I don't think even you know what you're here for other than misusing the term 'objectively' and making asinine comparisons to a game with a two week shelf life.

Have fun wallowing in your delusion, KJ.

You giving someone a sermon on "objectivity" is both hilarious, and hypocritical. Just stick to your knob polishing of all Microsoft's bought releases. It suits you much better.

 

[recursive]

I wonder how many people on NeoGAF are about to learn what time zones are.

List of excuses:

People are at work.

Wait until the weekend.

The market is saturated.

Wait for word of mouth.

This is just steam numbers chuds.

IGN says it's a banger so more people will buy it.

Misogyny killed the game.

 

[GHG]

Yes, when notorious Xbox fanboys like GHG call you off your rocker, you know it's only because of the publisher of the game.

Finally someone understands me, after all these years.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Looking forward to playing the game. But I’m not spending $70. I like the IP, but don’t really care for immersive sims, so I’m not that excited to play it which is why it is relegated to some future date when I sub to gamepass for a few months.

• $70 do not sell on PC full stop. They never will so stop trying.
• Terrible release timing
• IP that is not popular
• Game genre that is not popular
• Gamepass sucking away sales more than other genres because this is SP one and done.

 

[Mortisfacio]

Gamepass sucking away sales more than other genres because this is SP one and done.

Anecdotally in my friend group, this is also an issue. Forza for example many of us have bought on Steam due to replay and online features. Of that group that tends to buy Steam, not a single one has bought this game on Steam, but multiple are playing on PC GamePass.

 

[onQ123]

It's not even the best selling Xbox game on Amazon a day after release

 

[demigod]

Just look at Phil Spencer:

Takes over Xbox
Sells no consoles
Goes 3rd party
Sells no games either

What will he greenlight next?

Knight Rider?

If they made a game where all you do is nothing except sit in the car and having kitt talk to you with the themesong playing? Instant buy.

 

[Humdinger]

I don't get why this game is console war fodder, on one side or the other. It's basically a multiplatform release with a brief window of exclusivity. But I guess old habits die hard, and some people will continue to fight the good fight, even if there isn't anything to fight about...

 

[MMaRsu]

It's not even the best selling Xbox game on Amazon a day after release

Does it need to be?

 

[Katatonic]

I watched some of the game and it looks pretty good, but I'll wait for the Pro version if I really want to play it.

 

[Astray]

I watched some of the game and it looks pretty good, but I'll wait for the Pro version if I really want to play it.

Dualsense is probably the reason I'm debating between going for it now and waiting until the Pro version is out.

Imagine feeling the haptics when you ring someone's bell with your right fist.

 

[Heisenberg007]

I don't understand this obsession people have with seeing numbers that basically show how many other people are into the same thing that they are into, how many others spent money on the same thing that they spent on, because when it comes down to it, that is exactly what this is. It is an odd need for people to feel good about what they are playing because so many others are as well.

I think there is at least one positive side to it:

• If I really love a game, I'd feel very happy if others are also playing and experiencing the same thing.

There is also one practical/business side to it:

• If someone really loves a game, they'd be hoping they get more sequels or at least new games from that studio. And commercial success of a game is important to ensure that happens.

For example, most of us didn't like Concord, but obviously someone in this world must have. And they'd have like continuous support or maybe even a sequel and, therefore, would have wished that more people played Concord to keep the devs going.

 

[Three]

I don't care about player numbers. I care about good games.

Lol, this list is dishonest. PUBG is F2P now, but it hit its peak when it was paid. Halo also is on PC GamePass, where Helldivers is not, so Steam doesn't account for all players (Personally at launch myself and friends all played on GamePass)

There's no argument. Redfall peak numbers are nearly 10x that of Concord. The numbers speak for themselves, just pointing it out.

 

[DenchDeckard]

We now got Sony guys absolutely concerned with the sales and future of this Xbox owned studio.....


....I'm over here living my best life playing this goty.

 

[Heisenberg007]

You don't think Game Pass players factors into Microsoft's calculation of success?

No, I don't think it's possible to quantify and properly attribute a game's success with Game Pass in the picture.

Otherwise, they would not have shut down Tango Games (and sold the IP) after celebrating Hi-Fi Rush's number of players and calling it a breakout hit. Even they couldn't figure out whether it was a success or not.

 

[Heisenberg007]

The numbers speak for themselves

 

[onQ123]

Does it need to be?

It needs to sale yes.

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[demigod]

Would have wished that more people played Concord to keep the devs going.

Nah, fuck those devs and their uglyass characters. Glad they got fired. Don’t push your agendas into gaming, shitbags.

 

[MiguelItUp]

We now got Sony guys absolutely concerned with the sales and future of this Xbox owned studio.....


....I'm over here living my best life playing this goty.

Looking at this thread certainly feels that way just by the look of various responses. It's sad, honestly.

Wild to think that some people can't just appreciate solid games when they're not on their preferred plastic box.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Nah, fuck those devs and their uglyass characters. Glad they got fired. Don’t push your agendas into gaming, shitbags.

You cut that part, and people, only reading that, would think that "I would have wished that more people played Concord to keep the devs going."

I was talking about a hypothetical group of players (there must be at least a few as with any other game who played and loved Concord) to use as an example. Just making the point that sales really matter, and there are multiple reasons why folks would be interested in a game's commercial success.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

Those are terrible numbers. They better hurry up with the PS5 version

 

[Mortisfacio]

Not the "gotcha" you think it is. Concord was objectively worse. Both games sucked. Also Concord had no Gamepass option, making the numbers even more depressing.