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Israel-Hamas cease-fire, hostage release deal reached

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
Israel and Hamas have agreed to a cease-fire deal that also ensures the release of hostages, Fox News has confirmed.

"A Gaza ceasefire and hostage release deal was reached following the Qatari Prime Minister's meeting with Hamas negotiators, and separately Israeli negotiators in his office," a source briefed on the matter told Fox News.

Separately, a senior Hamas official confirmed to Fox News that a deal was reached. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office has yet to confirm the deal.

More here

https://www.foxnews.com/world/israel-hamas-cease-fire-hostage-deal-reached
 

ADiTAR

ידע זה כוח
It's an awful deal and I'm happy it was reached.

There will be a lot of heart break the next few weeks will bring, and the fact that 60+ will still be there.

I hope there's a miracle and the Bibas family comes home alive.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Trump Arizona GIF
 

ManaByte

Member
I'm just pointing out your comment about all hell breaking loose made no difference on the Palestinians position to the deal.
Per the WSJ:
Negotiators, including Steve Witkoff, President-elect Donald Trump’s designated Middle East envoy, along with officials from the U.S., Israel and Arab countries, met midday local time in Doha, Qatar, to finalize the draft, said the Arab officials, who are helping to mediate the talks.
 

ChuckeRearmed

Gold Member
Fantastic news. Hope both sides will stick to it.
I don't think it will last unless something is done within Hamas. Granted funding for Hamas will probably cut off (or is cut off) due to the collapse of Iran.

I think Bibi won't be happy but there was that rumor that Trump said something along the lines that "Bibi drags USA into too many conflicts" or something.
 
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popeutlal

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Today, after many months of intensive diplomacy by the United States, along with Egypt and Qatar, Israel and Hamas have reached a ceasefire and hostage deal. This deal will halt the fighting in Gaza, surge much needed-humanitarian assistance to Palestinian civilians, and reunite the hostages with their families after more than 15 months in captivity.

I laid out the precise contours of this plan on May 31, 2024, after which it was endorsed unanimously by the UN Security Council. It is the result not only of the extreme pressure that Hamas has been under and the changed regional equation after a ceasefire in Lebanon and weakening of Iran — but also of dogged and painstaking American diplomacy. My diplomacy never ceased in their efforts to get this done.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I am surprised that Israel was not able to root out Hamas despite a full invasion. I wouldve thought every single Hamas guy would be in prison or in exile by now. Isnt the gaza strip the size of Manhattan? We took over Europe in a year and a half.

Leaving Hamas in charge means more and more kids who grow up in that hellhole will be capable of mass rape, baby killlings and all the horrific things that happened on October 7th. This was our chance to liberate Gaza and we blew it. Shouldve been U.N running Gaza with mass re-education of palestenian kids to ensure this never happened again.

Give it 20 years and the new generation will commit much worse atrocities. You dont negotiate with Hitlers. Shouldve demanded unconditional surrender from Hamas.
 

ChuckeRearmed

Gold Member
I am surprised that Israel was not able to root out Hamas despite a full invasion. I wouldve thought every single Hamas guy would be in prison or in exile by now. Isnt the gaza strip the size of Manhattan? We took over Europe in a year and a half.
The fundamental issue is that you can deport or genocide people that easy anymore like in the past. The death toll would be too enormous.
 

Dick Jones

Gold Member
I watched Biden's speech saying it was an ceasefire agreement brought up first in Spring 2024. He revealed too much there as to who was dragging their heels.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
The fundamental issue is that you can deport or genocide people that easy anymore like in the past. The death toll would be too enormous.
I dont think we genocided the Japanese or the Germans. We killed many civilians with our bombings which is what we've done here. But now, you ask for a full unconditional surrender and rebuild Palestine with normal civilians. not leave terrorists in charge of them again.

I dont know. last i heard, they were going apartment to apartment to capture the hamas guys. I dont know what changed. but it seems like Trump changed his mind and they have no choice but to agree to terms.
 

Jinzo Prime

Member
And ended up with the same deal that was proposed over a half year ago? Who did he lay the law down on? Hamas had already agreed last year. Is Trump anti-Israel?

Edit: apologies ManaByte ManaByte I was meant to quote Jinzo Prime Jinzo Prime above me.
The GOP lead Congress just passed legislation to sanction Interpol to keep Bibi out of jail, so no, Trump is not anti-Israel. I mean, if that's not loyalty, I don't know what is. Frankly, I have no idea what they all have planned, but I can only assume it it's not against Israel.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
The GOP lead Congress just passed legislation to sanction Interpol to keep Bibi out of jail, so no, Trump is not anti-Israel. I mean, if that's not loyalty, I don't know what is. Frankly, I have no idea what they all have planned, but I can only assume it it's not against Israel.
Wake me up when Interpol starts going after extremist leaders and the gang rape coverups in the UK.
 

Mattyp

Not the YouTuber
I am surprised that Israel was not able to root out Hamas despite a full invasion. I wouldve thought every single Hamas guy would be in prison or in exile by now.

And now every single child or young boy will join Hamas after watching their family burn and be buried alive from relentless Israel air strikes.

Israel need to give back a sizeable amount of the land they keep taking every decade and fuck off.
 

ChuckeRearmed

Gold Member
The GOP lead Congress just passed legislation to sanction Interpol to keep Bibi out of jail, so no, Trump is not anti-Israel. I mean, if that's not loyalty, I don't know what is. Frankly, I have no idea what they all have planned, but I can only assume it it's not against Israel.
Sanctions on ICC is a part and parcel of american policy - ICC was designed for third world countries really as a structure was created during the Cold War.

They will but considering Hamas gets hundreds for 33 Israelis that will just start the clock to the next attack.
The thing is that right now Hamas just doesn't have funding from Iran.
 

ChuckeRearmed

Gold Member
What changed exactly ?
IRGC's influence in the shia crescent collapsed completely - Hezbollah is all but destroyed, Syria collapsed, supply chains for Hamas are destroyed. Now they have trouble supporting Hamas. Plus internal crisis in Iran because basically the project that IRGC has been developing for years and has spent tens of billions ended overnight.
 
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Sony

Nintendo
Israël's far right extremist government doesn't support the cease fire. To prevent a crisis in Israël they've blaming "last minute demands by Hamas". It's very transparant.
 

longrainwater

Neo Member
It’s interesting that the Hamas influencers are simultaneously claiming that they humiliated and crushed their enemy, but also that they were genocided.

Neither of those are true, but those arguments can only work on the far left, who have been conditioned for years to accept cognitive dissonance.
 
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ChuckeRearmed

Gold Member
Israël's far right extremist government doesn't support the cease fire. To prevent a crisis in Israël they've blaming "last minute demands by Hamas". It's very transparant.
The main problem for them is that if the ceasefire is approved then they will lose power. People are tired of the war and without the war Bibi won't be able to maintain the power.

It is a situation similar to Russia, where the terror and war just delays the collapse but allows to maintain the power for the government.
 
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Dick Jones

Gold Member
It’s interesting that the Hamas influencers are simultaneously claiming that they humiliated and crushed their enemy, but also that they were genocided.

Neither of those are true, but those arguments can only work on the far left, who have been conditioned for years to accept cognitive dissonance.
No one claimed that Hamas crushed Israel. There is enough to show genocide of Palestinians the ICC case will debate that part. Israel can defend that accusation there.
 

longrainwater

Neo Member
No one claimed that Hamas crushed Israel. There is enough to show genocide of Palestinians the ICC case will debate that part. Israel can defend that accusation there.
The usual suspects on Twitter are saying both. For example, Hadi Nasrallah said both in the same tweet. Nerdeen Kiswani, one of the student activists, is saying the same.

The claim of genocide is laughable and just a way for bad people to try to diminish actual genocides like the Holocaust.

If 45,000 dead, including Hamas soldiers, is a genocide, than every war is a genocide, And then the term becomes meaningless. Which is advantageous for the anti-Israel group as they believe Israel derives moral legitimacy from the Holocaust.

In actual genocides, the victims don’t refuse to end hostilities/release hostages/actively try to increase civilian casualties of those under their control.
 
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Dick Jones

Gold Member
The usual suspects on Twitter are saying both. For example, Hadi Nasrallah said both in the same tweet. Nerdeen Kiswani, one of the student activists, is saying the same.

The claim of genocide it’s laughable and just a way for bad people to try to diminish actual genocides like the Holocaust.

If 45,000 dead, including Hamas soldiers, is a genocide, than every war is a genocide, And then the term becomes meaningless. Which is advantageous for the anti-Israel group as they believe Israel derives moral legitimacy from the Holocaust.

In actual genocides, the victims don’t refuse to end hostilities/release hostages/actively try to increase civilian casualties of those under their control.
As I said let the ICC decide it. We will now see journalists outside Israel/Palestine gain access and they will see the conditions and lossses in Gaza. This will either show genocide or show the figures provided by Hamas were incorrect.

The most important thing is the hostages go home and aid flows in to Palestine if there is signs of a famine.
 
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