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Kingdom Come: Deliverance II has sold 1 million copies

Yeah, me too. There are probably a lot fewer of them than you get the impression of since they're obnoxiously loud. But we've had optional homo romances in RPGs for close to three decades now, and people never gave a shit (and still don't it seems).
People don't usually care if it is not done in a preachy way like it is the main selling polling. Like "Traash can fill your pipes" - nobody wants to listen to that, while nobody had an issue with the ability to develop relationships with Alistair in the DAO.

Nice to see that we developers are competent instead of DEI hires, they achieve the success.
 

Astray

Member
Strong start to a very competitive month.

Will be interesting to see how Yakuza and Avowed do when this game is taking up a sizable chunk of their shared audience' time and money.
 
Game is not woke what a nonsense.

To me it doesn't feel natural to have Henry having the option to have sex unlike the first game, but it's optional so no big deal.
Agreed, having a lesbian or gay character doesn't mean woke. New Vegas has multiple lesbian and gay characters and it's one of the best game of all times. Woke freaks just want to find some form of victory after having so many woke failures last year in so many games and shows etc. And it seems woke folks were the ones that wanted this game to fail due to the game director or whatever not agreeing with their sick and twisted ways.
 
Game is not woke what a nonsense.

To me it doesn't feel natural to have Henry having the option to have sex unlike the first game, but it's optional so no big deal.
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PeteBull

Member
*Kingdom Come: Deliverance*, the open-world RPG developed by Warhorse Studios, sold one million copies in about **two weeks** after its release on February 13, 2018. The game was a commercial success, and its rapid sales highlighted its popularity, especially considering it was an indie title.

I think one day is fine.
I didnt want/hope for only "fine" sales data, i wanted kcd2 to decimate the woke shit games instead, thats why i want it to sell much much better, DD2 alike ccu would be perfect :D
 

Aenima

Member
Agreed, having a lesbian or gay character doesn't mean woke. New Vegas has multiple lesbian and gay characters and it's one of the best game of all times. Woke freaks just want to find some form of victory after having so many woke failures last year in so many games and shows etc. And it seems woke folks were the ones that wanted this game to fail due to the game director or whatever not agreeing with their sick and twisted ways.
Alot of ppl only see things in black and white while ignoring a huge spectrum of gray thats in between. The problem was never a game having woke elements, but how those woke elements might afect the game.

Cyberpunk is full of woke elements, Gay, Lesbian, Trans characters. And yet nothing stands out of place or feels forced for inclusion sake. This is the diference between what make a bad woke game and a good game with woke elements that dont feel its being woke. Yet for some ppl its just Black and White and any kind of nuance is sent out the door cuz thinking is harder than parroting what some guy said in social media and you feel the need to agree.

Lets look at Cyberpunk VS Veilguard: In Cyberpuk you have all kinds of characters from all kinds of races, religions, sexual orientations, and none of them make a big deal about it, they just exist as part of the world and fit the setting. Then you have Veiguard a medieval fantasy game where you can choose to have modern day top surgery scars, have a speach about coming out as non binary, having another scene about misgendering someone and how saying sorry is not enough so you must do some pushups to show you really mean it.
Cyberpunk = Game with woke elements that feautures diversity in a way that makes sense to the world and dont stand out. Veilguard = Woke trash trying to lecture the players about social agendas.

I plan to buy a new PC next month or a month after and this game might be the 1st purchase to play on it. Monster Hunter Wilds have my priority for now.
 
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Fabieter

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I didnt want/hope for only "fine" sales data, i wanted kcd2 to decimate the woke shit games instead, thats why i want it to sell much much better, DD2 alike ccu would be perfect :D

Me too but imo it already did. It's already selling alot faster than the first one and this one has a significantly higher quality. I can see this selling 20m lifetime across all platforms.
 

Buggy Loop

Member
Woke is forced stuff, forced diversity, aka puting black guy in feudal japan and making him protagonist and samurai, like in AC:S, or giving joel golf club treatment and forcing us to play as his killer in tlou2, who looks like srs steroid abuser yet has no facial hair and is voiced by very feminine voice actress, or like in spiderman2- making peter who is superhero stud with decent job, financially stable with amazing house in the suburbs having 50yo looking gf like mj, just few examples of clown world here.

Stuff that isnt woke:
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As u can see cast in first predator(1987, 25m usd budget, no wasted cash on sweet baby and other stupid things;p) cast is diverse af but it isnt forced, its all believable, aka u dont have squadrons of bluehaired obese lesbians running tru the jungle and doing carnage, u got proper looking and behaving comando squad of badass motherfuckers instead :)

or:
t2 sarah connor

She is strong woman that can handle business better from 99% of women, but its not coz she wanna be "strong independend bossbabe that doesnt need no man" but coz she is getting herself ready to fight fricken killer robot from the future, she still has plenty flaws, isnt invincible marrysue like some woke movies make female characters.

Ripley from first Alien:

Very feminine and fragile, almost naked, yet strong female character, strong enough to win vs an Alien, they never made her masculine/manly for that ;)


Lol

As if I need an explanation

I was protecting KCD 2. Avowed has a pronouns in a freaking character sheet, same character options that Baldur’s Gate 3, Starfield, Cyberpunk 2077, Hogwarts Legacy had. All this drama over one loonie in a team of hundreds with 20 years studio veterans. But memes right? But not on the game I play right now buhuhuh

But I don’t make the grifting, I don’t make the rules, but KCD 2 is already in the DEI / Woke list


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It will find its way into the infamous Google DEI list

Now I will say one final thing on all this

Both extremes of the woke anti-woke are retards. Voilà .
 
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Alot of ppl onle see things in black and white while ignoring a huge spectrum of gray thats in between. The problem was never a game having woke elements, but how those woke elements might afect the game.

Cyberpunk is full of woke elements, Gay, Lesbian, Trans characters. And yet nothing stands out of place or feels forced for inclusion sake. This is the diference between what make a bad woke game and a good game with woke elements that dont feel its being woke. Yet for some ppl its just Black and White and any kind of nuance is sent out the door cuz thinking is harder than parroting what some guy said in social media and you feel the need to agree.

I plan to buy a new PC next month or after and this game might be the 1st purchase to play on it. Monster Hunter Wilds have my priority for now.
I think most people know the truth, they just spin the narrative however to favor their own arguments.

The problem for me is never inclusivity or representation, it is whether those contents are awkwardly forced. KCD2 did it in a proper and plausible way.
 

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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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As u can see cast in first predator(1987, 25m usd budget, no wasted cash on sweet baby and other stupid things;p

How tf would they spend cash on Sweet Baby inc in a 1987 film when it wasn't made before 2017 .. 🤭



Lol

As if I need an explanation

I was protecting KCD 2. Avowed has a pronouns in a freaking character sheet, same character options that Baldur’s Gate 3, Starfield, Cyberpunk 2077, Hogwarts Legacy had. All this drama over one loonie in a team of hundreds with 20 years studio veterans. But memes right? But not on the game I play right now buhuhuh

But I don’t make the grifting, I don’t make the rules, but KCD 2 is already in the DEI / Woke list


The problem is what's perceived to be an 'easy' or viable target.

All the grifters that were whining about KCD are quiet now, grummz hasn't tweeted about it in a few days after his initial volley, while he keeps tweeting about how he knows someone who lives in Japan, because KCD has had a successful launch, cause he knows he won't get that same kind of traction on KCD content now.
 

PeteBull

Member
How tf would they spend cash on Sweet Baby inc in a 1987 film when it wasn't made before 2017 .. 🤭
Back then hollywood produced many classics, they werent woke yet, they were smart, unlike many of them today ;)
Here most recent superwoke predator movie, titled prey, but its actually about predator:

Crazy amount of stupid woke takes there, the only positive that came out of it is we finally know what will happen to all women chosing bear instead of man in the woods ;)
 
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How tf would they spend cash on Sweet Baby inc in a 1987 film when it wasn't made before 2017 .. 🤭






The problem is what's perceived to be an 'easy' or viable target.

All the grifters that were whining about KCD are quiet now, grummz hasn't tweeted about it in a few days after his initial volley, while he keeps tweeting about how he knows someone who lives in Japan, because KCD has had a successful launch, cause he knows he won't get that same kind of traction on KCD content now.
My man Adam dunking on grift master Grummz:
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Meanwhile Grummz:



What he said is pretty much in line with the actual content in the game.
 

Raven117

Member
Woke is forced stuff, forced diversity, aka puting black guy in feudal japan and making him protagonist and samurai, like in AC:S, or giving joel golf club treatment and forcing us to play as his killer in tlou2, who looks like srs steroid abuser yet has no facial hair and is voiced by very feminine voice actress, or like in spiderman2- making peter who is superhero stud with decent job, financially stable with amazing house in the suburbs having 50yo looking gf like mj, just few examples of clown world here.

Stuff that isnt woke:
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As u can see cast in first predator(1987, 25m usd budget, no wasted cash on sweet baby and other stupid things;p) cast is diverse af but it isnt forced, its all believable, aka u dont have squadrons of bluehaired obese lesbians running tru the jungle and doing carnage, u got proper looking and behaving comando squad of badass motherfuckers instead :)

or:
t2 sarah connor

She is strong woman that can handle business better from 99% of women, but its not coz she wanna be "strong independend bossbabe that doesnt need no man" but coz she is getting herself ready to fight fricken killer robot from the future, she still has plenty flaws, isnt invincible marrysue like some woke movies make female characters.

Ripley from first Alien:

Very feminine and fragile, almost naked, yet strong female character, strong enough to win vs an Alien, they never made her masculine/manly for that ;)

Such good characters that had depth and complexity. They were stronger precisely because they were women. Not in spite of the fact they are women which is how “modern” game writers tend to write them.

I’m starting to think the woke/anti-woke thing with this game was a false flag.

Anyone with any sense at all would know that this game is not “woke” (in that awful preachy exists only for the message kind of way).
 

MMaRsu

Member
Back then hollywood produced many classics, they werent woke yet, they were smart, unlike many of them today ;)
Here most recent superwoke predator movie, titled prey, but its actually about predator:

Crazy amount of stupid woke takes there, the only positive that came out of it is we finally know what will happen to all women chosing bear instead of man in the woods ;)

I thought Prey was awesome and I love Predator 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

Kacho

Gold Member
Back then hollywood produced many classics, they werent woke yet, they were smart, unlike many of them today ;)
Here most recent superwoke predator movie, titled prey, but its actually about predator:

Crazy amount of stupid woke takes there, the only positive that came out of it is we finally know what will happen to all women chosing bear instead of man in the woods ;)

The acting in that was sooo fucking bad. I was laughing throughout the whole movie.
 
It is an impressive step up for a sequel - first game sold 500K in two days, this sold twice the amount in half the time.
Steam reviews are also significantly more positive (currently at 92%) - this surprises me somewhat, I expected the culture warriors to bring it down more.

Yea I've noticed all the culture warriors have shut the fuck up now. No one cared and the game is selling well. I expect this weekend steam peak to be even higher.
 
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It is an impressive step up for a sequel - first game sold 500K in two days, this sold twice the amount in half the time.
Steam reviews are also significantly more positive (currently at 92%) - this surprises me somewhat, I expected the culture warriors to bring it down more.

Meh, and optional gay thing you can easily skip to be with a woman isn't the end of the world.
That's not really forcing anyone to do DEI crap. Most culture warrior peeps are not as crazy as the extremes.
 

samoilaaa

Member
Game is not woke what a nonsense.

To me it doesn't feel natural to have Henry having the option to have sex unlike the first game, but it's optional so no big deal.
well the game is not woke but when the leaks about the black character and homosexual sex scene happened the studio head lied and said : dont listen to the internet

when the leaks about the game being banned in saudi arabia he lied again and denied the rumors

he wasnt straight forward because he knew it was gonna hurt the sales , which will happen now that the game is out and everything that was leaked was true , alot of people already said that they wont buy the game because of it and rightfully so because its their money , they have that choice
 
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well the game is not woke but when the leaks about the black character and homosexual sex scene happened the studio head lied and said : dont listen to the internet

when the leaks about the game being banned in saudi arabia he lied again and denied the rumors

he wasnt straight forward because he knew it was gonna hurt the sales , which will happen now that the game is out and everything that was leaked was true , alot of people already said that they wont buy the game because of it and rightfully so because its their money , they have that choice

That's fine mate, if you or someone feel it's not something they can support then by all means don't, i won't deny myself the pleasure of visiting the great world they created and be a true peasant even if i don't like some aspect in the game, to each their own, tho i might add it a shame to miss on an awesome game for minor issues.
 

moniker

Member
well the game is not woke but when the leaks about the black character and homosexual sex scene happened the studio head lied and said : dont listen to the internet

when the leaks about the game being banned in saudi arabia he lied again and denied the rumors

he wasnt straight forward because he knew it was gonna hurt the sales , which will happen now that the game is out and everything that was leaked was true , alot of people already said that they wont buy the game because of it and rightfully so because its their money , they have that choice

The rumour that the game had (unskippable!) homosexual sex scenes? That was a lie, not any thing Vávra said. Here is what he said on X:

Vávra said:
1/10 There are NO unskippable cutscenes in our games. Anybody who claims otherwise never played them.

2/10 We are NOT (nor ever were) banned in any country – at least not that we know of.

5/10 KCD is an RPG, you are responsible for your decisions. If you want Henry to try a same-sex adventure, feel free. If you don’t want to, you don’t have to. All affairs are (and were in KCD1) purely optional. The characters are perfectly aware, that it was a forbidden sin.

7/10 Musa came to Bohemia with an invading army as a member of the royal court of King Sigismund, whom he met thanks to his engagement at the court of Sultan Bayezid. He's an educated noble and renaissance man from the Kingdom of Mali.

9/10 Everything displayed corresponds to the morals and social norms of 1403 Bohemia and is only there to make an interesting story, and not at all to appeal to a “modern audience".

Link to the whole thread on X.

Where are the lies?
 
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PeteBull

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That's fine mate, if you or someone feel it's not something they can support then by all means don't, i won't deny myself the pleasure of visiting the great world they created and be a true peasant even if i don't like some aspect in the game, to each their own, tho i might add it a shame to miss on an awesome game for minor issues.
I think its not forced at all, and even if we assume worst case scenario, that it was mandated/forced by investors- its literally 1 npc out of tens of tousands, logically explained(some kind of traveling merchant/healer from distant land, to not go into details), and gay sex scene only shows up after multiple choices targeting romancing the person, totally skipable too.
Its like token wokeness, kinda what elden ring did with a/b bodytypes aka doesnt influence game's feel, fun/story/gameplay by any means, and i say it as antifeminist and antiwokeist, hell i got banned/put under quarantine/warned many times even here for my views, my post history is proof i wouldnt defend game that is even tiny bit of woke xD
Ofc like always, i strongly urge ppl to make their own judgement, and not play it/not pay for it unless they feel like it, make sure u all made informed choice before u buy/play it :)

launch trailer has 23k likes/600 dislikes so about 97,5% likes to 2,5% dislikes ratio

basically same to cgi trailer from about 2weeks ago 37k likes/1k dislikes at 600k views:
 
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I think its not forced at all, and even if we assume worst case scenario, that it was mandated/forced by investors- its literally 1 npc out of tens of tousands, logically explained(some kind of traveling merchant/healer from distant land, to not go into details), and gay sex scene only shows up after multiple choices targeting romancing the person, totally skipable too.
Its like token wokeness, kinda what elden ring did with a/b bodytypes aka doesnt influence game's feel, fun/story/gameplay by any means, and i say it as antifeminist and antiwokeist, hell i got banned/put under quarantine/warned many times even here for my views, my post history is proof i wouldnt defend game that is even tiny bit of woke xD
Ofc like always, i strongly urge ppl to make their own judgement, and not play it/not pay for it unless they feel like it, make sure u all made informed choice before u buy/play it :)

To me the only "issue" is Henry can suddenly like guys, doesn't sit well with me, but in general i don't like changes to characters i love.

Don't care about no merchant etc, and since my only issue is optional then no problem for me.
 
Yeah, me too. There are probably a lot fewer of them than you get the impression of since they're obnoxiously loud. But we've had optional homo romances in RPGs for close to three decades now, and people never gave a shit (and still don't it seems).

Anyway, I'm happy for Warhorse Studios ... and unhappy that I won't have time to play this for several months.
Same with the woke people - it's a minority, they're just loud.

I still am not a huge fan of Vavra's approach to the whole controversy, but all seems well in the end. Still don't know, really, about Henry suddenly exploring same-sex romance options when he seemed canonically fixed in the first game, but regardless, it's optional.. looking forward to playing the game. KCD was one of the best I've played in recent years.
 
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samoilaaa

Member
You said he lied and wasn't straight forward about it, what are you talking about exactly?

Anyway, great to see they are having success, hopefully they post tomorrow that they have sold 2 million!
he denied the fact that the game was banned in saudi arabia when the rumors first appeared , said he didnt had any kind of information about that and we should trust the internet

cmon , your telling me you dont know if a country blocks your game

and the black dude has lines such as " our country is safer , we treat women with more respect "
 

samoilaaa

Member
That's fine (I guess). That's not what your post was about though.
but the did denied about the game being blocked in saudi arabia


2/10 We are NOT (nor ever were) banned in any country – at least not that we know of.

cmon your telling me a country bans your game and you have no idea about it
 
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pudel

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but the did denied about the game being blocked in saudi arabia


2/10 We are NOT (nor ever were) banned in any country – at least not that we know of.

cmon your telling me a country bans your game and you have no idea about it
Is it banned now? On steam it seems to be listed in saudi riyal. And would be nice to know WHY it was banned (when it was banned at all )
 
Glad to see a woke game didn’t get adversely cancelled by the anti woke mob
It´s not that the game is really woke. You are not forced to make the main character gay. But they got flak the previous time for not including blacks in medieval bohemia or making the protagonist canonnically straight, and they were unfairly called nazis and everything in the book.
Now, seeing them bend the knee to those who unfairly attacked them, it doesn´t feel good. They should be free to do the game they fucking want.

If you are doing a traditional european medieval game, it shouldn´t be mandatory to have blacks and gays in it.
 
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