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Media Create Numbers: 2 - 8 Oct

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cvxfreak

Member
http://eg.nttpub.co.jp/ranking.html

1. (PS2, Bandai Namco) Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo - 263,897
2. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 254,080 / 1,074,127
3. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 212,193 / 980,881
4. (PSP, Bandai Namco) Gundam Battle Royale - 64,986
5. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 40,114 / 3,233,793
6. (DS, Rocket Co.) Zaidan Houjin Nihon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Kounin Kanken DS - 38,799 / 84,091
7. (PS2, SCE) Minna no Tennis - 32,962 / 416,507
8. (DS, Square Enix) Final Fantasy III - 30,418 / 781,713
9. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 26,600 / 3,288,248
10. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World - 22,787 / 3,305,244

11/ Brain Training (NDS, Nintendo)
12/ Talking Cooking Navi (NDS, Nintendo)
13/ English Training (NDS, Nintendo)
14/ Rhythm Tengoku (GBA, Nintendo)
15/ .hack// G.U. Vol. 2 (PS2, Bandai)
16/ Mario Kart DS (NDS, Nintendo)
17/ Tingle RPG (NDS, Nintendo)
18/ Romance of the 3 Kingdoms XI (Koei, PS2)
19/ Tamagotchi 2 (NDS, Bandai)
20/ Mario Slam Basketball (NDS, Nintendo)
21/ Tetris DS (NDS, Nintendo)
22/ Tenchu 360 (360, From Software)
23/ Kawaii Koinu DS (NDS, MTO)
24/ Kenshin (PS2, Banpresto)
25/ Monster Hunter Freedom - The Best - (PSP, Capcom)
26/ Dead Rising (360, Capcom)
27/ Big Brain Academy (NDS, Nintendo)
28/ Perfect Kanji Ability (NDS, TDK)
29/ Gintama DS (NDS, Bandai)
30/ Brain Scan (NDS, Sega)

(Thanks to The_lascar for 11-30)
 
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donny2112

Member
How, exactly, is 460K combined a huge dropoff? Not to mention the fact that shortages have been reported.

Also, Brain Training 2 is at #9, so the Brain Games continue their chart streak. :)
 
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Raw64life

Member
What were the second week sales for the other Pokemans? Either way it's a pretty good hold considering the last couple of Pokemans were released in December and D/P is in September.
 
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Earthstrike

Member
castle007 said:
well if you combine both versions, then it is the number one game
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Yeah I changed my original comment once i realizsed i was look at the wrong numbers and that there was 500,000 copies sold today instead of 200,000.
 
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cvxfreak

Member
Pokemon GS second week: 438,280
Pokemon RS second week: 471,538

Note that GS and RS were released during the holiday season.
 
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castle007

Banned
cvxfreak said:
Pokemon GS second week: 438,280
Pokemon RS second week: 471,538

Note that GS and RS were released during the holiday season.
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So, it is just below RS.

that is solid with a bit of diarrhea j/k

actually that is an excellent second weel
 
G

GDJustin

stuck my tongue deep inside Atlus' cookies
Pokemon am bomb total. :lol

Edit: Yes, I'm joking. It's clearly due to a lack of supply.
 
S

starship

psycho_snake's and The Black Brad Pitt's B*TCH
Very impressive sales for Pokemon considering its still sold out everywhere.
And FF III will easily break 1m mark when SquareEnix can supply more units.
 
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Clever Pun

Member
not that most don't realize this, but

1. Pokemon is probably pretty difficult to find, thus restricting sales
2. I wouldn't be surprised to see it jump back over 100k during the holidays
 
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ioi

Banned
cvxfreak said:
Pokemon GS second week: 438,280
Pokemon RS second week: 471,538

Note that GS and RS were released during the holiday season.
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Well actually it's more like:

Pokemon G/S: 556k
Pokemon R/S: 482k

http://www.vgcharts.org/japwk.php?week=2

Pokemon D/P ~ 480k

So very much in line at the moment, although G/S and R/S have a number of 300k+ weeks to come over xmas, I doubt that D/P will hold as well over the next few weeks. It really needed to start much stronger to have a good chance at beating the other two...

NSMB week 2: 341k


cvxfreak said:
Second week Pokemon LTD:

Pokemon DP 2,055,008
Pokemon GS 1,864,049
Pokemon RS 1,716,541
Pokemon RG 130,460
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It's really misleading:

1) Using Famitsu and/or Media Create numbers intermingled (I don't personally have an issue, but with all the sticklers for detail on here...)
2) Using old data without adjusting it (or even thinking about how you should)
 
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cvxfreak

Member
ioi said:
Well actually it's more like:

Pokemon G/S: 556k
Pokemon R/S: 482k

Pokemon D/P ~ 480k

NSMB week 2: 341k
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I don't believe those numbers at all, so for the sake of the discussion, we're gonna use Famitsu's numbers. It's always been that way for the initial discussion anyway.
 
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KINGMOKU

Member
cvxfreak said:
Second week Pokemon LTD:

Pokemon DP 2,055,008
Pokemon GS 1,864,049
Pokemon RS 1,716,541
Pokemon RG 130,460
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So, second week for these two games is tracking ahead of all the other versions?


I hope that those saying drop-off are joking. I hope.
 
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Soul4ger

Member
Man, I can understand hardware shortages, but cartridge shortages?! Whoever would've guessed something like this would happen...
 
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cvxfreak

Member
moku said:
So, second week for these two games is tracking ahead of all the other versions?


I hope that those saying drop-off are joking. I hope.
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Well, Pokemon GS was released on 11/21/99, which was the final day of that week, so GS has the best first day sales of the series ever (but DP has the best chart debut). But for the next 7 days it actually had worse sales than RS and DP.
 
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jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
Soul4ger said:
Man, I can understand hardware shortages, but cartridge shortages?! Whoever would've guessed something like this would happen...
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It shouldn't be hard to believe after Nintendo announced that plastic case shortage.
 
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Square2005

Banned
ioi said:
Well actually it's more like:

Pokemon G/S: 556k
Pokemon R/S: 482k

http://www.vgcharts.org/japwk.php?week=2

Pokemon D/P ~ 480k

So very much in line at the moment, although G/S and R/S have a number of 300k+ weeks to come over xmas, I doubt that D/P will hold as well over the next few weeks. It really needed to start much stronger to have a good chance at beating the other two...

NSMB week 2: 341k




It's really misleading:

1) Using Famitsu and/or Media Create numbers intermingled (I don't personally have an issue, but with all the sticklers for detail on here...)
2) Using old data without adjusting it (or even thinking about how you should)
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Hey, ioi, now that you hav Famitsu going back to '89 can you tell us what the original FFIII sales were like in 1990? Released around G-week in April of that year, FYI.
 
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ioi

Banned
cvxfreak said:
I don't believe those numbers at all, so for the sake of the discussion, we're gonna use Famitsu's numbers. It's always been that way for the initial discussion anyway.
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Lol, well Pokemon R/B only doing 130k in two weeks is miles off for a start.

cvxfreak said:
Well, Pokemon GS was released on 11/21/99, which was the final day of that week, so GS has the best first day sales of the series ever. But for the next 7 days it actually had worse sales than RS and DP.
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According to Famitsu. Media Create paints a very different story (this is a MC thread afterall?)
 
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apujanata

Member
1. (PS2, Bandai Namco) Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo - 263,897 COMGNET 280K
2. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 254,080 / 1,074,127 COMGNET 236K
3. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 212,193 / 980,881 COMGNET 181K
4. (PSP, Bandao Namco) Gundam Battle Royale - 64,986 COMGNET 38K
5. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 40,114 / 3,233,793 COMGNET 44K
7. (PS2, SCE) Minna no Tennis - 32,962 / 416,507 COMGNET 37K
8. (DS, Square Enix) Final Fantasy III - 30,418 / 781,713 COMGNET 29K

Less than 5% difference : #8
Less than 10% difference : #1, #2
10% or more difference : #3, #4, #5, #7
Worst accuracy : 41%
Best accuracy : 3%

Overall accuracy : 11%
 
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cvxfreak

Member
ioi said:
Lol, well Pokemon R/B only doing 130k in two weeks is miles off for a start.



According to Famitsu. Media Create paints a very different story (this is a MC thread afterall?)
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Oh? What figure do you have for GS's first week on MC?
 
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ioi

Banned
cvxfreak said:
Oh? What figure do you have for GS's first week on MC?
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Very different to Famitsu, and both tracked well below 'actual' sales.

e.g

Pokemon G/S Famitsu total: 5.64m
Pokemon G/S Famitsu shipped: 7.21m

(and don't start telling me there are 1.6m copies of the game 'unsold')

R/G/B is even worse:

Pokemon R/G/B Famitsu total: 4.39m
Pokemon R/G/B Famitsu shipped: 10.23m

95-96 Famitsu seemed to almost stop tracking GB altogether - for example Donkey Kong Land sold around 350k in 95 according to Famitsu, but shipped 1.08m etc etc.

This is the whole point of vg charts. You can't just dig out old Famitsu data and use it at face value, you have to think about how you are using it - or alternatively just look on VG Charts where the thinking has been done for you
 
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Jonnyram

Member
ioi, please back down a little about your numbers. You're gonna derail the thread again.
How can you adjust your old numbers but not these new numbers?

Do you know, for example, whether Media Create or Enterbrain includes the Pokemon store in their research?
 
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cvxfreak

Member
ioi said:
Lol, well Pokemon R/B only doing 130k in two weeks is miles off for a start.
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I'm actually not talking about that.

Your Pokemon GS figure is outrageous. 1.8 Million in a day?

ioi said:
Very different to Famitsu, and both tracked well below 'actual' sales.

e.g

Pokemon G/S Famitsu total: 5.64m
Pokemon G/S Famitsu shipped: 7.21m

(and don't start telling me there are 1.6m copies of the game 'unsold')
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I actually have the figure, so tell me what it is.
 
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dogbowl

Member
Soul4ger said:
Man, I can understand hardware shortages, but cartridge shortages?! Whoever would've guessed something like this would happen...
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It happened back in the NES days, once that system really took off.

I remember it being bad enough for a while that even your typicall WalMart clerks were blaming it on memory chip manufacturing plants and such....
 
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ioi

Banned
cvxfreak said:
I'm actually not talking about that.

Your Pokemon GS figure is outrageous. 1.8 Million in a day?



I actually have the figure, so tell me what it is.
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Media Create for G/S?

W1- 1,199,028
W2- 516,837
W3- 1,115,590
W4- 498,662


And where is 1.8m in a day? 1.53m is the final, adjusted figure.
 
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AniHawk

Member
dogbowl said:
It happened back in the NES days, once that system really took off.

I remember it being bad enough for a while that even your typicall WalMart clerks were blaming it on memory chip manufacturing plants and such....
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Wow. You're old, mister.
 
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donny2112

Member
cvxfreak said:
Your Pokemon GS figure is outrageous. 1.8 Million in a day?
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And it starts ...

ioi's LTD = theoretical maximum sales since = shipped

In reality, they are at least slightly high.

ioi's weekly figures = guesses based on trends, past history, form fit functions, etc. = much less accurate than the LTDs

Media-Create is the "official" source of GAF Japanese data
and sometimes Famitsu
, so arguing over ioi's guesses (for the weekly numbers) doesn't get us anywhere.
 
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cvxfreak

Member
apujanata said:
1. (PS2, Bandai Namco) Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo - 263,897 COMGNET 280K
2. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 254,080 / 1,074,127 COMGNET 236K
3. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 212,193 / 980,881 COMGNET 181K
4. (PSP, Bandao Namco) Gundam Battle Royale - 64,986 COMGNET 38K
5. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 40,114 / 3,233,793 COMGNET 44K
7. (PS2, SCE) Minna no Tennis - 32,962 / 416,507 COMGNET 37K
8. (DS, Square Enix) Final Fantasy III - 30,418 / 781,713 COMGNET 29K

Less than 5% difference : #8
Less than 10% difference : #1, #2
10% or more difference : #3, #4, #5, #7
Worst accuracy : 41%
Best accuracy : 3%

Overall accuracy : 11%
Click to expand...

Not looking at the accuracy as strictly as that, I think Square2005 did a good job this week. Gave a reasonable look at the week sales.

ioi said:
Media Create for G/S?

W1- 1,199,028
W2- 516,837
W3- 1,115,590
W4- 498,662


And where is 1.8m in a day? 1.53m is the final, adjusted figure.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4533102&postcount=344

I guess you really did readjust it.
 
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