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Media Create Sales 3/24 - 3/30
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viciouskillersquirrel
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I thought so. A million Monster Hunter fans don't go out and rebuy a game because of reduced load times or a new online mode or whatever. If I remember correctly, the numbers for the original were less than 100k higher for the original. That's a pretty dedicated core.Tenbatsu said:
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
....Damn it....
viciouskillersquirrel said:
It might not sell as well in the West, but again, simply go over to Gamefaqs and look at the ranking of the PSP message boards:
01 - Crisis Core
02 - Monster Hunter Freedom
03 - Monster Hunter Portable G
04 - FF Tactics: War of Lions
05 - MGS: Portable Ops Plus
06 - God of War: Olympus
The MHF board has over 10,000 threads (574 pages with 20 threads per page) and is probably one of the biggest trafficked boards on Gamefaqs. By comparison, Mass Effect only has 240 pages and CoD4 has 775).
If you corelate traffic with players, then MHF lies about halfway between the two games. That's probably overestimating, as RPG type games generate more traffic, but it's still incredibly popular by those standards.
I know people here scoff at Gamefaqs, but it really is a pretty pulse of what more mainstreamish gamers are playing (especially considering they are linked with Gamespot)
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
Like I said, dedicated core. Very vocal fanbase.JeremyR said:
thestopsign
Member
JeremyR said:
The known sales of the first game say otherwise to how popular it is in the West. It may be more of a hardcore hit than mainstream. I don't know if the sales have picked up recently or not, but it can't have taken off that much.
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Phife Dawg said:
I doubt that this is the reason
If you check i.e the Media Create thread when SSBB was released you will see some simular comments, eventhough it was no suprise that SSBB would sell well, atleast in my opinion. I guess you will always see some "holy shit!" comments when a game sells alot of copies, especially the first week, even if it was expected or not (you'd probly see more of these comments if it wasnt excepted though). I havnt compared the "holy shit" comments in this thread to the PAL chart threads to see if it is the same people who said it to Uncharted, but i dont think the majority of the people who said "holy shit!" comments to Monter Hunter 2G is the exact same people who commented on Uncharted every week, but who knows I dont think people are always directly suprised when a popular game sell this well if they say "holy shit!" comments, but that they say this to express that the numbers are high and that it preformed well And about the "Uncharted syndrome" (or what i shall say hehe), i think that has alot to do with its first 1-2 weeks preformance. It didnt have a great start and some people said it bombed, but then it just kept on charting week after week for a long time. If Uncharted charted at #1 when it launched and fell off like other games some times does and that people didnt call it a bomb i dont think we would see too much of this Uncharted syndrome. There would probly still be some comments that it charted (like there is with i.e WiiFit and Mario Mart DS etc., i think i see some comments on these releases almost every week), but i dont think it would be just as many comments. Hard to say though, so who knows
_Alkaline_
Member
Cheesemeister said:
"Whoa."
Frillen said:
Shut yer trap, i barely visit these threads and wanted to know how many days of sales it got (it launched the 27th i believe) considering its amazing sales. I'm sorry i offended your elitist sales-age feelings, but im new to this.
So stop being a prick, and just confirm whether i'm wrong or right.
Big numbers for sure. A very large percentage of a games sales is from the first day though. One of the number crunchers will probably be able to rattle off an average percentage of a games first day sales to its LTD. Suffice it to say that sale age threads see a lot of "and it's only a couple of days! imagine what it will be next week!" and some people get sick of hearing it. Don't take it personally.k79 said:
The Faceless Master
Member
so basically, you barely visit these threads, then get upset that someone who does points out that people always ask this? maybe you should read more and post less?k79 said:
Jasoncheng
Member
Cheesemeister said:
It is PS2 game.
So
TOP30
PS2:4
PSP:4
Uproar of MH3 because nintendo fanboys have a exclusive which they don't care about while MH fans get kicked in the ballsviciouskillersquirrel said:
MHP2G although is a considered expansion but it is more like a special edition.
New weapons,
New type of quests
New armors
Cats will join you in battle
New monsters and most monsters from MH2 and MHFrontier are in it.
Arhal_Katarn
Junior Member
Good all mighty the ps3 is an a rut in Japan. Although i thought the wii would outsell it i thought the ps3 could pull some better hardware numbers and have a respectable second place finish in Japan.
The only hope is a ps3 slim and the two ff13 games if they don't push hardware then Sony should seriously take at look at where they went wrong. If it does work and sony can manage a psp/n64 decent runner up then they should count themselves lucky as there Japan HQ has been shite compared to the US and EU.
The only hope is a ps3 slim and the two ff13 games if they don't push hardware then Sony should seriously take at look at where they went wrong. If it does work and sony can manage a psp/n64 decent runner up then they should count themselves lucky as there Japan HQ has been shite compared to the US and EU.
Fredescu said:
Ok, thanks for explaining. It really wasn't my intention to make a statement, so his reply rubbed me the wrong way. But i can understand what you say about people making statements like that, and how that annoys people.
I'll make sure to phrase myself better in the future.
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
:lolDefuser said:
I remember a lot of Nintendo fanboys who previously did not care about MH at all suddenly care a whole lot and gloating about it. Same thing for Sony fanboys, but the emotion was negative. It was almost as funny as watching Amir0x pretending to be a hardcore DQ fan in the DQIX thread and seeing actual DQ fans dogpile on him when he was saying blatantly untrue things about the series to justify his meltdown.
And of course, I remember your own meltdown, which was EPIC. I absolutely lost it when you started calling Capcom CRAPCOM. Genius.
I found it very amusing because I could see it coming. Not this specific announcement of course, but something of that nature. If I were running a Japanese publishing firm, I certainly could not ignore the overwhelming userbase on the Wii, nor could I ignore its becoming a pop-cultural phenomenon overnight.
As for the issue of competing with Nintendo's software, the simple answer to that question is that you don't - I certainly wouldn't. You do not imitate what Nintendo has already done in terms of software and avoid the genres they excel at. Instead, you fill in the gaps that Nintendo have left behind.
Then, you will have a product that Nintendo will not be able to match and you will make money (MH3 is a great example - what does Nintendo have that can compete?). To put it simply, to make money, it makes sense to do what Nintendon't.
But of course, the people at the top often completely fail to understand what market data means. They follow a popular narrative they hear in a press conference and forget their basic marketing. So you get things like Sega doing a pale knockoff of Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (a market that has already been well served) and having it fail miserably. Tut tut tut.
So, somewhere between an enhanced version and an expansion. Interesting. Too bad the sandbox 'do what you want' gameplay doesn't interest me.Defuser said:
MH is not a sandbox plus you can't do anything you want. Heck,you can't even anywhere you want.viciouskillersquirrel said:
1)Old lady gives you quest to slay or gather
2)You choose quest
3)You be transferred/teleport to various areas to slay
4)Slay monster
5)Gets transported back to the village within 1 min
6)Make weapons/armor with the parts you get from slaying
7)Repeat step 1
Pokemon.viciouskillersquirrel said:
Is there any kind of tangible evidence besides the hardcore internet that proves most MH fans are unsatisfied with MH3 coming to Wii?
I think there's a lot more evidence around that most Japanese gamers would rather not buy what they perceive to be an overpriced PS3 for one game.
I think there's a lot more evidence around that most Japanese gamers would rather not buy what they perceive to be an overpriced PS3 for one game.
Pureauthor
Member
I'm not entirely sure MH3 will do any better than its previous iterations.
Phife Dawg said:Poor Sega
They can take solace in the U.K. Top 40.
Pureauthor said:
I think it'll end up doing better than 1. If the PSP games serve to increase brand awareness, it might even do better than 2. I don't think it'll get anywhere close to 1 million, though.
Also, someone mentioned the PS3 glass ceiling line earlier. That would be 400K. No game has sold over 400K in Japan on the PS3. MnG5 at #1 is 380-something. Based on PS3's history, MGS4 will get into the 300s before dying. If it bucks that, then that's good news for the PS3.
JoshuaJSlone
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Made more specific.titiklabingapat said:
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Yeah. As of early February Famitsu has Musou 5 (Dynasty Warriors 6) at 356K, and Gundam Musou at 313K.jarrod said:
btutterrow
Member
MHF2 is such a great game. I hope they release G here as the fanbase IS growing for the series.
I'm surprised that so many are shocked at the high sales considering how huge the Japanese market was making the release of the game. Everything from tons of MH branded cases to a MH beverage. The game is HUGE.
I'm surprised that so many are shocked at the high sales considering how huge the Japanese market was making the release of the game. Everything from tons of MH branded cases to a MH beverage. The game is HUGE.
Hammer24 said:
Is that a joke?
Publisher 1: I know our games tanked next to our projections and the past games in the series, but at least we're not as far behind 1st party games as on Nintendo platforms.
Publisher 2: Yeah. That'll help me sleep better tonight on my cardboard box!
If it was a joke, I thought it was funny.
Phife Dawg
Member
It's the kind of people posting in these threads solely because they have an emotional investment. They may not be the same posters per se (I can't be bothered to check) but they post these one-liners for the same reason. That's what I was aiming at, you took it a bit too literally.test_account said:I doubt that this is the reason
And about the "Uncharted syndrome" (or what i shall say hehe), i think that has alot to do with its first 1-2 weeks preformance. It didnt have a great start and some people said it bombed, but then it just kept on charting week after week for a long time. If Uncharted charted at #1 when it launched and fell off like other games some times does and that people didnt call it a bomb i dont think we would see too much of this Uncharted syndrome. There would probly still be some comments that it charted (like there is with i.e WiiFit and Mario Mart DS etc., i think i see some comments on these releases almost every week), but i dont think it would be just as many comments. Hard to say though, so who knows
It's the same reason I don't post in NPD threads because they mainly (at least 90%) consist of these types of posts.
I would love to see them have success on all the plattforms they release on though. And RGGK is the first in the series I am really interested in due to the setting - I hope they still do a western release, despite the lackluster sales of both Yakuza (to a bigger extent) and RGGK (to a lesser extent). I think some Sega rep was hinting at it not too long ago, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Until I am proficient enough in Japanese to be able to play such a text heavy game PS5 will be on the market.donny2112 said:
I agree with the MH prediction. This should sell north of MH1, anything else would be a disappointment.
squatingyeti
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lyre said:
I think you mean regardless...by the way, we plan to make money using tiny classified ads. They're complicated.
NintendosBooger
Member
Anyone else find it strange that MHP2 didn't even crack the top 30 this week, given the launch sales of its expansion?
btutterrow
Member
NintendosBooger said:
This is a misunderstanding. MHP2G is not an expansion. It is everything in MHP2, with some fixes and more content. You do not need MHP2 to play it!
I heard from another site that MHP2 sold 7,000 this week anyway, which is the really strange part unless it was super-cheap, or people wanted their fix and all the stores were sold out of G.
NintendosBooger
Member
btutterrow said:
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.
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Phife Dawg said:
I did take it sort of literally, but not 100% literally to be honest. The way i first understood your post was that since Uncharted was out of the UK charts, the people who had been commenting on Uncharted preformance week after week needed to move on to another game since they couldnt comment on Uncharted now that the game was out of the UK charts. Also, i did feel that you put a joke spin on what you said though, so i didnt take it dead serious, but i wanted to give a serious reply on it anyway
I just wanted to point out that you would most likely see these "holy shit! comments regardless since they usually appear when a game pulls high sells number (expected or not), and especially on the first week, so co commenting on a game that sells good isnt exactly something that happend the first time when Uncharted was out (i do however agree that Uncharted is a case of its one, hence the "Uncharted syndrome" hehe).If you used Uncharted just as an example of emotional investment then i didnt pick that up at first, sorry. I do agree that many people say these comments out of emotional investment. Thats fine by me though
It might also be that they say the comments to show that they are amazed by the preformance eventhough it was sort of expected. Like i'm amazed over Halo 3's preformance, but im not exactly suprised that it sold this well.Hehe, ye, you can imagine how the March NPD will be when SSBB numbers are out
Its almost impossible to discuss in a NPD thread when it gets released because of all the comments that are being posted in the begining.btutterrow
Member
donny2112 said:
That just cracks me up for some reason :lol
'Monster Hunter G is sold out! Oh well, I don't want to wait a week so I will pick up the old version which is slightly worse in every regard.'
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donny2112 said:
I was mostly thinking of the flood of posts, if you try to start a discussion like 5 minutes after the NPD thread has been made, like 1 minute later there will be maybe 20 new posts so some most might "drown" :\ But is the NPD result we get now different from before? I didnt follow it before so i dont know.
Captain Smoker
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Anyone posted this?