Haunted One said:Mario Party triples sales while MnGolf sales are halved?
****ing uh oh for the PS3.
I wonder if Mario Party 8 will be the best-selling MP game so far.
At this rate I don't see why not, excellent first day sales.
Haunted One said:Mario Party triples sales while MnGolf sales are halved?
****ing uh oh for the PS3.
I wonder if Mario Party 8 will be the best-selling MP game so far.
Thanks ki/oon. Good to see you posting again.ki/oon said:First day numbers :
-Mario Party 8 and MnGolf 5 both sell over 100K.
-MP8 numbers are 3 times higher than MP7 first day numbers.
-MnGolf 5 numbers are about half the MnGolf 4 first day numbers.
-"Beginner's pack" (Mng 5 + PS3) hasn't sold much.
-Oblivion (XBox 360) : 35K (better than Trusty Bell's 30K)
-Taiko no Tatsujin DS : 50K (some places are sold out already, new shipment only end of august)
-Gundam MS 0079 Wii : 30K
-Metal Gear anniversary box : 15K
-GTA Liberty City Stories : 20K
ziran said:GTA seems to be losing popularity everywhere. I don't think GTA IV will manage the numbers 3 and its sequels did, even by the end of the generation and even if it sees a release on Wii.
Typo?evilromero said:I always suspected that Minna no Golf was going to have solid first day sales due to the eager hardcore consumer still holding onto the system. The fact that the bundle is flying off the shelves seems to point to this trend. MP8 selling well is no surprise. And I hate Hudson (and Nintendo) for not addressing the most nagging issues associated with the series.
apujanata said:I don't think Wii's demographic (elderly, women) are interested in GTA type of game. So, I think GTA on Wii will do worse (compared to PS3 and X360).
apujanata said:I don't think Wii's demographic (elderly, women) are interested in GTA type of game. So, I think GTA on Wii will do worse (compared to PS3 and X360).
apujanata said:Well, I know that if PS3 was released at US$ 300 price point, I would have bought it, instead of buying a SECOND Wii. (and right now, I am thinking of buying a Third Wii, the Japanese version one).
apujanata said:I don't think Wii's demographic (elderly, women) are interested in GTA type of game. So, I think GTA on Wii will do worse (compared to PS3 and X360).
rakka said:I don't think you know (apujanata) what you're talking about. So, I think you're stupid (compared to other people).
apujanata said:To clarify, I mean that more elderly and women have wii (compared to PS3 and X360). I know that lots of elderly and women (in Japan, since we have pictures of them buying it) have DSL, so it is quite safe to say that Wii also have a higher percentage of elderly and/or women owner.
apujanata said:Do YOU have any evidence that None / small percentage of Wii owner are in the elderly / women category ?
You want someone to give proof that not a big % of Wii owners are old women?apujanata said:Well, IF Rockstar ever release a GTA game for Wii, we will know whether I am right (that GTA Wii will have lowest sales compared to PS3 and X360) or not.
To clarify, I mean that more elderly and women have wii (compared to PS3 and X360). I know that lots of elderly and women (in Japan, since we have pictures of them buying it) have DSL, so it is quite safe to say that Wii also have a higher percentage of elderly and/or women owner.
Do YOU have any evidence that None / small percentage of Wii owner are in the elderly / women category ?
moku said:You want someone to give proof that not a big % of Wii owners are old women?
WTF? :lol
Nintendo DS Gaming Service Tops 5 Million Users, 200 Million Game Sessions
Nintendo DS also finds success beyond the stereotypical young male gamer. According to internal Nintendo demographic tracking studies, in less than 18 months, DS purchases have increased by 42 percent among women, 127 percent among people 30 and older and 212 percent among people 35 and older.
http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=OaUVnKSxO9TH4x_Vixl-LJhEbjpQB3m1&page=
apujanata said:Well, IF Rockstar ever release a GTA game for Wii, we will know whether I am right (that GTA Wii will have lowest sales compared to PS3 and X360) or not.
apujanata said:Anyway, here is the source that made me believe that DSL have more women and elderly gamers (than usual).
MasterMFauli said:If Wii gets a brand new GTA-game that would be quite fair. If Wii gets just a port of a former GTA, wow, what a surprise that´d be if that wouldnt sell great, eh? *sigh*
Verve said:we don't know the numbers these percentages are based on. they may be very, very low, so the exact numbers would be just a little higher and the vast majority of DSL owners would still be young males
apujanata said:If, on the other hand, there is also another game, that is also a port from other platform (such as PS3 and X360), and it sold better on Wii than PS3 and X360 version, people will say : it sold better on Wii than the other platform, because there are more Wii than PS3 and X360.
In other words, if GTA sold worse on Wii, I have not proven that I am right. But if GTA sold better than Wii, I have been proven wrong. Right ?
BenNX74205 said:If a port of an older GTA game (III, SA, etc...) sold worse on Wii, you wouldn't have proven anything. It's a port of an older game that a lot of people already played. Nobody expects RE4:Wii to outsell the versions from 2 years ago (not even Capcom).
If GTA IV came out for Wii, and sold better on Wii than PS3 or 360, then you would have been proven wrong.
The "GTA" in your manufactured dichotomy refers to different games.
apujanata said:What happen IF GTA IV was released on PS3, X360 and Wii, and sold worst on Wii, even though Wii H/W is #1 on that time ? Just curious as to why you think caused that ?
Do you want to know what would happen if a giant asteroid hit the earth?apujanata said:What happen IF GTA IV was released on PS3, X360 and Wii, and sold worst on Wii, even though Wii H/W is #1 on that time ? Just curious as to why you think caused that ?
That's far more probable :lolmoku said:Do you want to know what would happen if a giant asteroid hit the earth?
AnimeTheme said:Wii Dewy's Adventure sold less than 1k in the first say... biggest Wii bomb so far?
AnimeTheme said:Wii Dewy's Adventure and Guilty Gear sold less than 1k in the first say... biggest Wii bomb so far?
rakka said:@apujanata
Explain why COD3 wii did better than COD3 PS3? (a multiplatform shooter)
And RE4 more than Ninja Gaiden Sigma? (both are M titles, and ****ing ports)
Many Wii owners like you said are in fact nongamers, elderly, women, etc.
But if you think that the market isn't there for real games, youre dead wrong. (see examples above)
BenNX74205 said:If it bombed on Wii, and sold great everywhere else, then I would say it is more likely the Wii userbase is not as geared towards those games. I would also say that we would need more data before the "all third parties don't see on Wii" could come out.
If it bombed on Wii, but bombed on 360 and PS3, then I would say the series is losing some of its selling power.
If it sold worst on Wii, with something like 2 million total sales to the 360 and PS3's 3 million sales apiece, then I would say GTA on Wii is probably a viable source of revenue for R*, and would expect future GTA games to appear on the Wii as well.
How would you interpret those scenarios?
apujanata said:COD 3 Wii are only doing 20% better than COD3 PS3 (up to Feb 07), even though Wii are 80% more than PS3 (up to Feb 07).
It is true that RE4 Wii are selling better than NGS, but is RE4 Wii more than 2:1 against NGS (like the current H/W ratio between Wii & PS3) ? Since I don't have the data, I could not say whether you are right or wrong.
I never said that there is no market for real games on Wii. I only doubt that GTA could be successfull on Wii. I think you are reading something into my post which I never said at all.
apujanata said:COD 3 Wii are only doing 20% better than COD3 PS3 (up to Feb 07), even though Wii are 80% more than PS3 (up to Feb 07).
It is true that RE4 Wii are selling better than NGS, but is RE4 Wii more than 2:1 against NGS (like the current H/W ratio between Wii & PS3) ? Since I don't have the data, I could not say whether you are right or wrong.
I never said that there is no market for real games on Wii. I only doubt that GTA could be successfull on Wii. I think you are reading something into my post which I never said at all.
rakka said:No ****ing surprise either.
Konami actually thought that it would sell?
As I've said a million times ultrakiddy shit can only be sold by nintendo
devs should put some effort into making good games first before complaining they don't sell.
That pretty much says that the Wii had a far varied userbase, which kinda was your point. It still doesn't change the fact that "hardcore" gamers do own the Wii, probably more so than the PS3(either alone or with a 360).apujanata said:COD 3 Wii are only doing 20% better than COD3 PS3 (up to Feb 07), even though Wii are 80% more than PS3 (up to Feb 07).
It is true that RE4 Wii are selling better than NGS, but is RE4 Wii more than 2:1 against NGS (like the current H/W ratio between Wii & PS3) ? Since I don't have the data, I could not say whether you are right or wrong.
I never said that there is no market for real games on Wii. I only doubt that GTA could be successfull on Wii. I think you are reading something into my post which I never said at all.
rakka said:No ****ing surprise either.
Konami actually thought that it would sell?
As I've said a million times ultrakiddy shit can only be sold by nintendo
devs should put some effort into making good games first before complaining they don't sell.
AnimeTheme said:Wii Dewy's Adventure and Guilty Gear sold less than 1k in the first say... biggest Wii bomb so far?
titiklabingapat said:That pretty much says that the Wii had a far varied userbase, which kinda was your point. It still doesn't change the fact that "hardcore" gamers do own the Wii, probably more so than the PS3(either alone or with a 360).
Slurpy said:Dewey sold like shit? Why? The game looked ****ing awesome!
titiklabingapat said:That pretty much says that the Wii had a far varied userbase, which kinda was your point. It still doesn't change the fact that "hardcore" gamers do own the Wii, probably more so than the PS3(either alone or with a 360).
Defuser said:What? Dewy is a bomba?After all the GAF wankage, I see it flop? * head explodes*
No wonder Konami is supporting PS3 semi-heavily.
It's the movie deal.Defuser said:What? Dewy is a bomba?After all the GAF wankage, I see it flop? * head explodes*
No wonder Konami is supporting PS3 semi-heavily.
apujanata said:I thought that Wii had a far varied userbase is MY point ? And I tried to show that through the attach rate.
apujanata said:I thought that Wii had a far varied userbase is MY point ? And I tried to show that through the attach rate.
I don't think Wii's demographic (elderly, women) are interested in GTA type of game. So, I think GTA on Wii will do worse (compared to PS3 and X360).
Cosmonaut X said:Source?
リリースラッシュに完全に埋もれてしまった感があるのが
Wii「水精デューイの大冒険」と、PS2版の回収騒ぎで
ネガティブイメージがついてしまったWii「ギルティギア」。
どちらも3桁と厳しい出足。
「水精デューイ」などは「エレビッツ」ファンからもっと
支持されるかと思ったのだが、さすがに発売時期が悪過ぎたか。
titiklabingapat said:Didnt you say that more gradmas are more likely to own a Wii than the other platforms?
360, most probably. hell 100% sure that it will.
PS3, not so much.
apujanata said:More grandma's as Wii owner means Wii's demographic is more varied, no ?
I don't understand your post.
rakka said:Of course it's varied.
That is far from what you originally said. Backpedaling now I see.
Also, grandmas doesn't need an apostrophe.
Well I'm not surprised.
rakka said:I don't think you know (apujanata) what you're talking about. So, I think you're stupid (compared to other people).
A larger userbase means more sales for every type of game, as already evidenced above. Is that so hard to swallow?
apujanata said:It is titiklabingapat that said that Wii's demographic is more varied, not me. I don't see any backpedaling now.
And I still believe that GTA IV on Wii will sold worse than GTA IV on PS3 and/or X360. If you don't think so, it is fine by me.
And nice attack on my mistake on grandmas. And nice come back "Well, I'm not surprised".
I was indeed the one who said it was "more varied", you just worded in differently.apujanata said:It is titiklabingapat that said that Wii's demographic is more varied, not me. I don't see any backpedaling now.
And I still believe that GTA IV on Wii will sold worse than GTA IV on PS3 and/or X360. If you don't think so, it is fine by me. If you wanted to call me stupid, or whatever else you wanted to call me, just because I think GTA IV on Wii will sold worse, it is fine by me.
And nice attack on my mistake on grandmas. And nice come back "Well, I'm not surprised".
To clarify, I mean that more elderly and women have wii (compared to PS3 and X360). I know that lots of elderly and women (in Japan, since we have pictures of them buying it) have DSL, so it is quite safe to say that Wii also have a higher percentage of elderly and/or women owner.
AnimeTheme said:http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/
"Both (Dewy's Adventure and Guilty Gear) sold figures are just 3-digit long" is the message I see from the bolded part, but please correct me if there is any wrong in my limited Japanese understandings.
felipeko said:If GTAIV was on the Wii, a well polished game, not a rushed port, i think a lot of people would pass on X360/PS3 release, since Wii's cheaper and have the Wiimote advantage...
So i'm not so sure if X360 would really be the winner if that really happened...