Shamrock7r
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PhoenixDark said:
Why not?
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Media Create Sales 7/30 - 8/5
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Why not?
They are. You get nothing out of their wins and losses except for the self-gratification that you will endear to remember for many an age whilst rubbing salt into the wounds of those who are against your team. Of course when the team isn't doing so good you tend to ignore their bad qualities for awhile, even if some "expert" was beating them around with a wooden spoon for several years.PhoenixDark said:
Go back to pumping your Zelda music and scripting another LOTR picture fanfic for the NPD's.
test_account
XP-39C²
titiklabingapat said:
MnG 1 came out about 3 years and MnG 2 about 5 years after PSX was launched.
MnG 3 came out about 1½ years and MnG 4 about 3 years after PS2 was launched.
MnG 5 came out about 8 months after PS3 was launched.
How big was the userbases when MnG 1-4 came out? Yes, its a fact that MnG 5 has the worse 2nd week compared to MnG 1-5, but are you spinning this into something negative or are you suprised that it sold lowest of the 5 games the 2nd week? Either way, MnG 1-4 had much bigger chance of selling more copies than MnG 5. MnG 1-4 got released much later into the consoles lifetime compared to MnG 5, PSX and PS2 were much more popular and the installbases were much bigger.
Afterall, MnG 5 has only been out for like 2 weeks. The LTD can still beat MnG 1-4 (one of them, not combined) for all we know. Just check out 1st week sales of MnG 1 and then the LTD.
PhoenixDark
Banned
speedpop said:
Alas, I highly doubt anyone will sit back as an old man telling their grandkids about how the Wii killed the PS3 in the 2007 season -_-
Ok
PhoenixDark said:
for me, it's even better.
sports have become more and more a business by time. i enjoyed the german soccer league a lot a long time ago... but now it's only "hey, i'll buy all the stars and win".
at least there's not that kind of betrayal in the videogame business. it always was business, it is business and it doesn't pretend to be anything else but business.
they don't have matches, they have strategies. it's a long term thinking sport with psychologic elements. more chess than soccer. and i think it's much more interesting.
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
PhoenixDark said:
Well, they're not technically the same...but they are analogous to each other.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Perhaps my response was missed by you in the mess.XiaNaphryz said:Since it seems I was right about this getting lost in the middle of the meltdown/pile-on mess, repeating my question again in hopes of getting a response.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7349131&postcount=286
PhoenixDark said:
Right; I find the latter more valid. A sports team is generally made to appeal to people because they live relatively close to where the team is headquartered. In the case of something more general like gaming corporations, we pick sides based on their actions and policies. Were situations reversed, the industry would be headed full steam in a direction of expensive consoles, expensive games, and standard controls.PhoenixDark said:
Heh. Some day when the DS is but a memory, I can say "I was there!" when it exploded completely beyond anything seen in the prior 30 years of gaming. It's like catching the record-breaking home run ball every week.PhoenixDark said:
Randy Lanzarote
Member
Out of interest, if anyone has the available data, what are the best selling PS3 games in Japan since launch (and figures too if that's possible?)
Or if someone can point me in the right direction where to find this data it'd be much appreciated.
Or if someone can point me in the right direction where to find this data it'd be much appreciated.
Joe Molotov
Member
PhoenixDark said:
If you're looking for something you can benefit from, then you really shouldn't be at GAF in the first place. Or playing videogames.
GreenNight
Member
I own stock in Nintendo, so you can bet my ass Im cheering for them. Sony fucked up with DRM music cds and other bullshit activities. I hope their entire corporation goes under and each exec burns in hell.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
The PS3 data from Moor-Angol's Japan-GameCharts.com is good. It uses the data from Famitsu's Top 30 lists and any other occasional updates they give.sionyboy said:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Actually, they tickle people brain's identically. It ties in with self-identity and group identity theories from social/personality psychology, and I actually do research in this area. It may not seem the same to you simply because society has conditioned you to believe it's normal to see a 300lb man with his face and belly painted screaming like a pre-pubescent girl for a team of people (who wouldn't spit on him if he was fire) to win their match of a children's game, but I assure you, it's the same thing.PhoenixDark said:
Of course, not all Sales-Age peeps are cheering for a particular system (though most are). Some folks just like fooling around with numbers as a hobby, which may seem weird... until you consider most of us like pushing buttons and staring at alternating lights in an amusing chain of behaviours and consequences as a hobby.
And if we are the laughing stock of GAF for that, so be it. I'm pretty sure I know who is laughing, and it really affects my life not-a-lick if they judge me to be silly. Live your life as you see fit, sir.
BishopLamont
Banned
The winning console will get the most third party support, as a gamer that definately benefits me more then cheering on a sports team. Especially in this generation where getting all 3 consoles is not likely with such insane prices.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Segata Sanshiro said:
IN-GROUP VS. OUT-GROUP!
OUT-GROUP HOMOGENEITY EFFECT!
INTER-GROUP CONFLICT GOGOGOGOGOGOGOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Damn Dragona, you should teach social psych.
Cheesemeister
Member
But why the cheap, plastic versions? Die-cast metal Voltron for life.
NintendosBooger
Member
I preferred the more vehicular Voltron.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Segata Sanshiro said:
Haha, thanks. That's a big compliment coming from you.
Cheesemeister said:
Blame Google Imagesearch: I have a diecast sitting right here beside me, but alas, I have no digicam.
Cheesemeister
Member
Dragona Akehi said:
As do I, strangely enough.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Quite right, I did miss that in the mess.JoshuaJSlone said:Perhaps my response was missed by you in the mess.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7349131&postcount=286
Thanks!
Randy Lanzarote
Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
Cheers fella.
Oh and I love the Famitsu/Media Create tracking site that I believe is yours. Excellent resource.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
So looking at the ethelred DQ spinoff list again
DQS is now the highest home console game on the list. I wonder if anyone knows how the SFC/PS1/PS2 Torneko games did, though?
Code:
Game Name: Sys: 1st Week: 2nd Week: 3rd Week: LTD:
DQ Monsters GB 333,114 117,937 59,360 1,911,107
DQ Monsters Joker NDS 633,084 247,558 47,689 1,357,408
DQ Monsters 2: Cobi GB 501,081 159,625 116,802 1,253,013
DQ Monsters 3 GBA 210,427 107,719 64,354 593,812
DQ Monsters 2: Tara GB 133,723 34,882 31,065 480,582
DQ Swords Wii 302,066 66,720 368,790
DQ Slime Morimori GBA 67,797 33,451 23,754 346,299
DQ: Young Yangus PS2 151,570 58,648 39,463 301,755
DQ Monsters 1+2 PSX 132,479 38,927 22,847 294,758
DQH: Rocket Slime NDS 43,995 31,979 31,509 293,970*thumbs up*sionyboy said:
Saint Gregory
Member
Cheesemeister said:As do I, strangely enough.
I would do anything to know where my Voltron is right now...
*sheds small tear*
Moor-Angol
Banned
DQ:S
3rd week : 32.133
LTD : 400.923
3rd week : 32.133
LTD : 400.923
Moor-Angol
Banned
Link said:
for what i saw in many shops (Yodobashi, Sofmap and Bic Camera located in Akihabara, Kawasaki and Yokohama) i can say there are no stock problems for DQ:S
cartman414
Member
No stock issues? That's peculiar, given that DQ:S is holding fairly steady atm.
Version 3.0
Member
Why does this "why do you care about sales" topic keep resurfacing? Especially with the sub-topic "how does this benefit you personally"?
It's entertainment. People cheer for the game show contestant who's been undefeated for 3 shows, they tune in to find out who shot JR or who fathered Anna Nicole's baby, buy books to see if Harry Potter lives or dies, root for the Avalanche/Cowboys/Lakers even when they don't live in the state (and none of the players are from the state), watch breathlessly to see if Titanic can out-gross Star Wars, cheer for rodeo stars or Nascar drivers or Olympic athletes, and so on.
And none of it benefits them personally beyond entertainment value. Which is fine. But videogame sales? Caring about that makes you pathetic.
Playing videogames used to make you a outcast geek. Now that they're socially acceptable, I guess the crowd that used to make fun of gamers now has to look down on the "geeks" who do more than just play. Bleh. Makes me think of this:
That's why *I* care about sales: because it makes me more hardcore. I'm a fucking outcast geek, that's why!
It's entertainment. People cheer for the game show contestant who's been undefeated for 3 shows, they tune in to find out who shot JR or who fathered Anna Nicole's baby, buy books to see if Harry Potter lives or dies, root for the Avalanche/Cowboys/Lakers even when they don't live in the state (and none of the players are from the state), watch breathlessly to see if Titanic can out-gross Star Wars, cheer for rodeo stars or Nascar drivers or Olympic athletes, and so on.
And none of it benefits them personally beyond entertainment value. Which is fine. But videogame sales? Caring about that makes you pathetic.
Playing videogames used to make you a outcast geek. Now that they're socially acceptable, I guess the crowd that used to make fun of gamers now has to look down on the "geeks" who do more than just play. Bleh. Makes me think of this:
That's why *I* care about sales: because it makes me more hardcore. I'm a fucking outcast geek, that's why!
Segata Sanshiro
Member
And I care because I am the King of No Pants!
RiskyChris
Banned
I care to follow sales, since it gave me confidence in purchasing a 360: good software sales in America will place it somewhere between XB1 and PS2 in terms of success.
DeadyFernGarden
Member
sales are not important when your system is losing confirmed.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Nah, Phoenix is no fanboy. Not even a little. He's just one of the OT snobs that would like the bread and butter of these forums shot into space.DeadyFernGarden said:
LanceStern
Banned
I initially cared about sales because it was a way to check and see how Nintendo and my favorite games were doing. As I've grown older and came here to GAF, I realized I care about sales becaue I'm oddly in love with numbers. I have a small story to share:
I go to work every day *part-time*, three days are four and a half hours. Two days are three and a half hours. After cleaning the restaurant and closing down, I usually clock out around 2:23/2:25PM, so I get my entire 4:30 shift.
One day my crew leader was rushing us to close early so they could leave early, so we closed at around 2:15 or so. I was standing at the clockout-clock waiting until 2:25, when my crew leader came and stood there and asked,
"What are you doing?"
I reply, "I'm waiting for the clock to say 2:25 so I get my entire 4:30 shift".
She responded with, "But..." but then said nothing else and just had a displeased look on her face.
I say, "Well I guess I can clock out now and I'd still get my 4:30 shift", so I clock out and go to approve my shift, and turns out I only got tracked for 4:15!!!
Needless to say I was a little angry, and with my obsession of numbers, I quickly calculated that making minimum wage ($7.50 an hour here), that I lost roughly $1.90 that day because of my rushing boss who doesn't care to lose $2.
So I shrugged it off, but was still a little angry.
The next week at work, there was nothing to do, so I got out a sheet of paper and calculated that if everyday I listened to my crew leader and RUSHED through cleaning/closing the store, I would lose 15 minutes off of my shift everyday. I work everyday, so I'm losing (15 min x 5 days) 75 minutes a week, one whole hour and 15 minutes worth of pay every week.
At $7.50 and losing 2 and a half hours every paycheck... each payday I'm losing $18.75!!!
Some inconsiderate forumers may mock, "Well Lance you must be pretty poor if that's going to bother you. It's just $20, get a better job".
For one, $20 is a lot to lose each paycheck no matter who you are. It's gas, it's food, it's personal necessities. But I calculated it some more that if I lost roughly $1.90 each day the entire year (that's $19 each paycheck).. 304 days (Taking off 61 days for two months that I don't work) means I've lost over 575 DOLLARS!! Just by losing $19 each paycheck, which is just $1.90 each day, which is just clocking out 7minutes too early (it counts 4:30 at 2:23PM) from work because my crew leader doesn't care about losing $2.
Well I care about losing $575 a year ma'am. Thank you very much. So I vowed never again to clsoe early, so I clean/close slower to get my entire 4:30 shift (or 3:30 shift wednesdays and fridays)
And that's just one example of what numebrs are to me... which is why I like sales me thinks
I go to work every day *part-time*, three days are four and a half hours. Two days are three and a half hours. After cleaning the restaurant and closing down, I usually clock out around 2:23/2:25PM, so I get my entire 4:30 shift.
One day my crew leader was rushing us to close early so they could leave early, so we closed at around 2:15 or so. I was standing at the clockout-clock waiting until 2:25, when my crew leader came and stood there and asked,
"What are you doing?"
I reply, "I'm waiting for the clock to say 2:25 so I get my entire 4:30 shift".
She responded with, "But..." but then said nothing else and just had a displeased look on her face.
I say, "Well I guess I can clock out now and I'd still get my 4:30 shift", so I clock out and go to approve my shift, and turns out I only got tracked for 4:15!!!
Needless to say I was a little angry, and with my obsession of numbers, I quickly calculated that making minimum wage ($7.50 an hour here), that I lost roughly $1.90 that day because of my rushing boss who doesn't care to lose $2.
So I shrugged it off, but was still a little angry.
The next week at work, there was nothing to do, so I got out a sheet of paper and calculated that if everyday I listened to my crew leader and RUSHED through cleaning/closing the store, I would lose 15 minutes off of my shift everyday. I work everyday, so I'm losing (15 min x 5 days) 75 minutes a week, one whole hour and 15 minutes worth of pay every week.
At $7.50 and losing 2 and a half hours every paycheck... each payday I'm losing $18.75!!!
Some inconsiderate forumers may mock, "Well Lance you must be pretty poor if that's going to bother you. It's just $20, get a better job".
For one, $20 is a lot to lose each paycheck no matter who you are. It's gas, it's food, it's personal necessities. But I calculated it some more that if I lost roughly $1.90 each day the entire year (that's $19 each paycheck).. 304 days (Taking off 61 days for two months that I don't work) means I've lost over 575 DOLLARS!! Just by losing $19 each paycheck, which is just $1.90 each day, which is just clocking out 7minutes too early (it counts 4:30 at 2:23PM) from work because my crew leader doesn't care about losing $2.
Well I care about losing $575 a year ma'am. Thank you very much. So I vowed never again to clsoe early, so I clean/close slower to get my entire 4:30 shift (or 3:30 shift wednesdays and fridays)
And that's just one example of what numebrs are to me... which is why I like sales me thinks
RiskyChris
Banned
Jesus Christ, Lance...
Segata Sanshiro said:
Really? I thought his LOTR NPD narratives were quite imaginative and seem to hint at a celebraiton of sales-age or at least allowed for it to happen. I don't approve of his 'why do people cheer about sales of some faceless corp.' as it sounds a bit too much like the refrain of those who have complained in no uncertain terms how much they hate the new sales-age now that their preferred platforms isn't winning. And PD didn't quite fit into that mold. I'm sure this is all just a big joke to him though.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
LanceStern said:
At $7.50 an hour and 20 hours a week, you're obviously not paying rent with your job money. You mentioned it's a restaurant and you didn't mention your tips, so you're almost certainly either in a non-tip position (busboy) or working in a non-tip restaurant (fast food).
If you're in university, you could make substantially more at a substantially better job if you get a student marking or TA job. If you're not in university, you really should consider upping your hours a good deal (40 hours a week would be full time) if the money means that much to you; and if not, consider applying to be a waiter at a restaurant that gives tips if you are old enough.
Well, this thread has been interesting. We have had the normal sales related discussion(Oddly the fewest replies seem to actually be about the weeks sales) but with that, we have had three discussions about three different posters. Some more in depth then others(Lance) and the others just a few replies(Segata, PD)
MC threads have become a mish-mash of everything from Personalities, discussion of individual posters, and in depth conversations on why we all care, and even some stock tip advice.
MC threads have become a mish-mash of everything from Personalities, discussion of individual posters, and in depth conversations on why we all care, and even some stock tip advice.