Sounds about right, I'm not seeing the disappointing sales really.
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Media Create Sales: Week 29, 2013 (Jul 15 - Jul 21)
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Sounds about right, I'm not seeing the disappointing sales really.
Aquamarine
Member
Piracy now exists for the 3DS.
For an install-base / sell-through comparison:
Pikmin 1 was released the week of 2001-10-22.
2001-10-22 - 101,299
GameCube installbase - 242,429
2001-10-29 - 26,461
GameCube installbase - 262,320
Pikmin 2 was released the week of 2004-04-26.
2004-04-26 - 161,930
GameCube installbase - 3,297,975
2004-05-03 - 30,971
GameCube installbase - 3,306,678
Pikmin 3 was released the week of 2013-07-08.
2013-07-08 - 102,188
Wii U installbase - 982,801
2013-07-15 - 30,997
Wii U installbase - 996,825
djplaeskool
Member
StreetsAhead
Member
Not in Japan, only 11 games were available at launch, and there's 14 on the list
Hate to break it to you, but Skylanders came out on the 12th of July, the day before Pikmin. DK is also listed as TBC and is not confirmed or hinted to be this year in Japan. I'm not pinning my hopes on it.
is it?!? I haven't followed that, to what extent?
Glass Rebel
Member
Would be nice to have the same for Partners in Time.
I wonder how it'll do in NA and Europe.
I think that's too much to hope for, but I agree that it's held better than I feared. I think the Vita *has* found a reasonable >10k baseline level now; I don't think the Wii U has.
DragonSworne
Banned
Not in Japan, only 11 games were available at launch, and there's 14 on the list
Hate to break it to you, but Skylanders came out on the 12th of July, the day before Pikmin. DK is also listed as TBC and is not confirmed or hinted to be this year in Japan. I'm not pinning my hopes on it.
3 more games than launch, I can finally see the momentum Iwata was talking about.
So Skylanders didn't even sell 4,155 units?
Not with the latest firmware.
Really? wasn't the flash cart that was supposed to do that blocked due to the latest firmware update so they needed to find a new solution?
Right now the North America lineup is 10x better than Japan. Pretty amazing.
I want to see how the Vita version stacks up against the PS3 version.
Hero of Legend
Member
Ha, wow, at least the 3DS version did quite a bit more than the Vita version, so it's not a total bust... right?
Might have legs, I mean wouldn't the anime still be airing, and of course with the WARS show airing soon enough, it'll keep the awareness of the IP naturally.
It's kind of hard to come up with a list of similar games, but I guess these would probably be the closest?
Feel free to suggest better comparison points in case I missed anything or am really off base here.
Sacred 2: 46,540 (PS3) / 24,013 (360)
Kamisama to Unmei Kakumei no Paradox: 34,366
Zettai Hero Kaizou Keikaku: 50,802
Dungeon Siege 3: 8,652
Edit: I did a second comparison off of Viewtiful Joe/LKS here based on feedback: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=72540236&postcount=177
I do think at least thematically it's a much better fit for Japan.
DragonSworne
Banned
Unless the LBX fanbase is still on the PSP, the poor PSV and 3DS sales point to people not liking the series or Level 5 milking it dry.
Probably a mix of both.
Probably a mix of both.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Very predictable week except for Vita holding a bit better than I thought it would.
Thats a good hold for YW and even Pikmin though its the legs that will determine if its going to be a 200-250k seller or 400k seller.
I'm going to give the WiiU 2 weeks before its below 10k.
shinra-bansho
Member
Might not be the best point of reference, but Platinum Games sales history:
Code:
Madworld 15,670
Infinite Space 69,049
Bayonetta (PS3) 206,142 + 11,485 (Budget release)
Bayonetta (360) 111,829 + 6,336 (Budget release)
Vanquish (PS3) 95,925
Vanquish (360) 18,489
Max Anarchy (PS3) 26,504
Max Anarchy (360) 4,170Thank you, not great selling titles (hopefully it's first week sales you posted there!).
Would you have figures for Viewtiful Joe on both GC and PS2?
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Wouldn't something along the lines of Pikmin, My Little King's Story, and Viewtiful Joe be more apt? Speaking of fatigue I wonder if W101 will have any as a result of Pikmin 3 being so close to it.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Hope Dragons Crown becomes the best selling Vanillaware game. The game has really impressed me and it has a high chance of becoming the best selling one imo.
BlackLagoon
Member
Vita version was just the PSP game upscaled with trophies. Level 5 didn't even bother changing the controls. There was pretty much no reason for anyone to care about it.
Those are unfortunately LTDs off of Garaph.
For Viewtiful Joe and Little King's Story LTDs based on Garaph:
Viewtiful Joe: 93,563
Viewtiful Joe: New Hope: 34,325
Viewtiful Joe 2: 34,477
Little King's Story (Wii): 25,932
The King, the Demon King and the 7 Princesses: New King Story (Vita): 6,526
Pikmin: 502,996
Pikmin 2: 470,933
Aquamarine
Member
Pirates have been releasing illegal dumps of 3DS games for years. Now, illegal exploit-based flashcarts are beginning to disseminate throughout the world.
It has already been blocked by Nintendo, but it still works with current games, so Mario & Luigi 4 can theoretically be pirated.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I really have no idea where to peg W101. Theres always that chance for a 15k-20k superbomba, but... it can't really can it? Maybe something like 60k? I really don't know. It won't be good either way.
DragonSworne
Banned
I doubt releasing more than 1 game every 2 months would induce fatigue. Besides, Pikmin and TW101 are not even similar games.
I would peg TW101 at 35K for the first week.
pieatorium
Member
beatsed
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I actually liked the original Tomato Adventure
Surprised by the fact that it didn't get the Western release, until they made M&L from it.
Make M&L from it? Does this mean it is just an asset-flip, or do you mean as in "making a sequel to it, just replacing the characters by Mario & Luigi"? If it is the latter, is the game playable without understanding the text? Maybe I'll have to buy the game then...
TW101 isn't an action RPG/loot game though? I thought it plays more like Bayonetta or other action games in gameplay (aka a Platinum Games game), and its the aesthetic thats really unique. I've definitely read many comparisons to Bayonetta.
Yeah I went for a second comparison off of LKS/VJ a bit later.
Spieler Eins
Member
I'm hoping for 60k, expecting the 15k superbomba though. No one knows about this game outside the hardcore of the hardcore since Nintendo does a pisspoor job of marketing it - even talking about it. The dedicated, last minute ,,Nintendo Direct show'' for this game will also just reach the people that already know about it. (This will happen worldwide too)
Are we talking LTD or first week?
I'm as confused as everyone else. Wasn't the third one supposed to be the best of the games released so far? You would think that would bode well for the opening sales of number 4.
Maybe it's franchise fatigue?
To speak for myself: Despite the good review scores, I just can't get excited for M&L4. The story seem to have zero stakes and the gameplay doesn't look that interesting/fun.
Aquamarine
Member
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
No way TW101 will be 15k....come on the WiiU has a gaming drought and title actually looks decent. I would hope it did at least 40-50k 1st week.
Was the Wii U invisible for the rest of week 28 or something? Lol.
PSV over Wii U in MC?
I think i know what the problem was...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE2fnYpwrng
I think i know what the problem was...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE2fnYpwrng
Aquamarine
Member
I think you answered your own question. It's too close to Paper Mario's release and many people "just can't get excited" for it. Franchise fatigue is definitely a factor here.
It's Platinum, Kamiya and the staff see it as some kind of spiritual successor of Viewtiful Joe too.
It's clearly not a title that will set the charts in fire for Wii U, given the context it should perform better than it would've on a healthier platform I think (something around 30-60k FW and maybe around 100k LTD)
Not too worried about M&L4. It should have good legs.
Most surprising thing for me is how low the drop is for the Vita.
If it is. I hope Vanillaware don't get the wrong idea from its success.
Most surprising thing for me is how low the drop is for the Vita.
If it is. I hope Vanillaware don't get the wrong idea from its success.
The Horror the horror
Banned
A lot of people think Nintendo's problem is with the Wii U hardware, specifically the Gamepad, but I believe it has more to do with their Wii U 1st party software. They've admitted to being behind on the the HD learning curve, so I'm concerned they'll be unable to adjust their preliminary 1st party software strategy quickly enough to accommodate current market realities, specifically the market's slight repudiation of Nintendo's blue ocean titles. It's like trying to make a U-turn with an oil tanker only to discover that by the time they've finally hit 180 the generation is at its twilight.
pieatorium
Member
The next game the characters you choose will just be breasts of different sizes (large being the smallest). All of the enemies are also breasts,