I doubt it'll change the brand image. If it underperforms their unrealistic expectations, they may fall pack to their portable audience again like what happened after Tri, but at least they would have created a bunch of high quality assets to milk for the next half-decade or so.
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MHGen?
Sammy Samusu
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Lord_Byron28
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Because their MHW prediction is gonna be a few million short not a few 100k short like they normally are.
I believe those failed to meet the original expectations (x million units in the first month).
While they did reach them in the end, it wasn't in the projected timeframe.
MHXX even more so (it barely reached the march projections as it is right now).
Watch Capcom project 1.5 million sales from the RE:R double pack on switch .p
Their predictions for the RE rereleases on PS4/XB1 are below 1 million, right? Doubt they would expect this much for Switch games.
Now that you mention it, the Japanese version has Chinese language, so it was indeed released in Asia (not sure which countries the Switch is available in atm).
Forecast for MH4 was unbelievably low, they reached it in less than a month instead of by the end of March.
This is wrong. The only MH that missed on their forecast was MH XX.
Jaded Alyx
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Damn, you guys need to be clearer with your sarcasm, I almost fell for it
About USFII, I also find that 100k for Japan really suspicious. Nintendo eShop sales don't seem to have been enough.
Perhaps they simply.... Rounded up. 😎
Where's the CSI theme when you need it?
By the way, what said by Chris1964 makes sense: that must be the shipment for Asia as a whole.
Ohyou.jpg is all I can muster right now
I don't think most people are surprised as much as they are amused.
Gotdatmoney
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Those worldwide numbers gonna get MH:W there for sure. Series was held back by handhelds after all.
As a side note, how the fuck is Capcom gonna get anywhere close to that forecast?
As a side note, how the fuck is Capcom gonna get anywhere close to that forecast?
PdotMichael
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The untapped markets on the Moon and Mars.
A weird thing is that I don't feel we've been sold 'the world', yet; the trailers we've seen haven't had lots of the sprawling vistas we've come to associate with the series. I'm hoping a later trailer will focus on that.
Immaculate
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Do DQ11 numbers from Famitsu come later today?
Gotdatmoney
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Ayyyyy Lmao. By March 2018. These guys are literally out of their mind. They need to have something else to make that forecast right?
Eolz
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They could, but I don't really see that happening (just like they didn't bother pushing Nioh, demon's souls and other hardcore JP exclusives in the west not on vita).
And if they do, why would your regular player buy it instead of a fifa/gta/horizon/etc bundle?
Nintendo made it work by tying it to the release of new hardware (MH4U) or limited ones (MH3U/MHG), on top of some big marketing. If Sony doesn't bother doing the same, it certainly won't expand past the existing million players in the west.
Gotdatmoney
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MH:W may very well sell 5 milliin units. But not in less than 3 months. That forecast is fucking insanity.
Capcom has to have some other software out there because I am failing to ses how they can sell 10.3 million units unless every sku they release over performs.
Skullwaker
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Unless Capcom has some big unannounced title or several notable ports up their sleeve, I don't see them getting near their target at all.
Does everyone want it to fail this bad?
MH peaked on the PSP, the sales never reach that high again.
Eolz
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It's not wanting it to fail, it's having realistic expectations. Not sure how that's the same.
In Japan yes, Worldwide the 3DS entries sold more (but then again Capcom never bothered with Portable 3rd in the west since sales were anemic at the time).
MH exists in the west solely on the back of Nintendo's involvement.
Gotdatmoney
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The only reason I am mentioning MH:W is because it is their only hope of reaching that forecast. Not because I want it to fail. The game has to be releasing early Feb I suppose. Maybe even late January.
Infinite is going to be interesting. The hype looks kinda meh.
And yeah, we are all kind of baffled by the forecast. Something is up there. Capcom is delusional but that looks like fantasy.
But Switch cannot handle what Monhun World is doing. So whatever Capcom will do is that they will either
A. Keep on making Monhun games for consoles and PC since they have the assets done
B. Create a port of Monhun World for Switch and rework the assets since it is not as powerful as a PS4/Xbone
C. Create both A and B and hope for the best
That's what I meant when I said milk the assets. I don't think MHW will be the last MH game on PS4, just that they'll reuse their assets and hold on to gen 5 for as long as possible. They'd be mad not to release another portable entry because that's their main userbase. If a portable MH title wasn't coming they would risk shrinking their userbase.
The only smart decision for Capcom is both unless MHW somehow bombs, which is unlikely.
Eolz
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Don't want to derail the topic, but already talked about in other threads, there's nothing shown that the switch couldn't handle. It's not pushing tons of polygons, textures are decent, engine is another MT Framework branch, etc. Tone down shadows and resolution and it shouldn't be too hard to port it.
Seriously it sounds from some people on this forum that the Switch is barely more powerful than a Vita and that MHW is the new Horizon. I know that the jump from MHX is huge, but come on now.
lyrick
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'B' is basically what they did with Portable 3rd. They took parts of Tri and parts of Freedom Unite and combined what they could get working on the PSP to create something for the fanbase that was without a release for almost 4 years.
Are you confusing Switch and 3DS, maybe?
Btw, we already know from reliable sources that they will continue the "Gen" sub-series on Switch. So I go with option "D"
I was going to say that the PC version of MHW could provide good growth but then I remember that it's not even certain that it's coming this FY.
Reliable sources?
Reliable sources?
Everything shown about MHW can be done on the Switch.
Where do people get the notion that the Switch can't handle this game? It's very surprising
Yeah, there's pretty much no way the PC launch is included in this fiscal year.
By sources, I assume they mean MatrixMan?
I'm not sure why the switch couldn't handle the whole GaaS thing?
Gotdatmoney
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The system needs a port of a relatively demanding gen 8 game before the notion dies off tbh.
I dont think monsrer hunter portable would make sense anymore. Atleast, I dont think exclusive to Switch makes sense. A theoretical next numbered monster hunter should be both for Switch and PS4. The people who want it on handheld will buy it on Switch anyway, so a divide in userbase will not happen. It would be even better with cross play online. I think Monster Hunter world is a smart move. The only thing not smart about it is leaving out the Switch but that should be remedied with the next release.
both the rumors that anticipated MHXX (3DS) name, MH "western focused" on PS4 and MHXX Switch port and MatrixMan heavily hinted/pointed to a portable sub-series continuation on Switch.
Aren't Splatoon and ARMS basically GaaS products? The main difference is that those are free. But nothing prevents the Switch to see games with that "business model".
yes, and the original rumor
Guess it was perfect timing to jump ship.
They are trying to create the brand in Western minds.
Splitting the userbase would be disaster.
This. The only game that I see people hang their hat on is snake pass.....
Eolz
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Gotdatmoney
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Ayyyyy Lmao.
This isn't a technical thread though. Lets just end this convo here.
yes, like MHP3rd and MHTri, right?
the best selling portable episode and the best selling home episode so far.
LOL
(as if BotW hasn't shown similar possibilites to what MHW has shown so far)
This. I don't understand why one would think that. What technically is at play in GaaS that the Switch couldn't handle?
Neoleo2143
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It's funny, the only areas we've seen in pretty much any capacity is just the starting one (which admittedly look pretty neat with the Girrafe Backdrop). The area design looks about as strong as you would expect moving from XCX into a new starting area with dense and deliberate enemy placement (with some decent variety) and many moving animals on screen to help convey liveliness. And the Town seems to have multiple levels to it and seems about as interesting as a section of NLA. But really we haven't seen squat from anything else. Monolith Soft are some of the most creative world designers in the whole industry and their capacity to convey something awe inspiring on a budget shouldn't be underestimated but it's concerning how little we've seen and how the release is creeping up.
I was thinking more A- the userbase isn't conditioned on that type of model (ARMS/Splatoon both free) B- lack of storage space for downloadable content, C- not always online.
I'm not saying it can't work, it just doesn't seem like a proven model like on the other systems.