I thought he was saying he was asking too much and offered to get some fries alongside it.
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I thought he was saying he was asking too much and offered to get some fries alongside it.
ethomaz
Banned
I tried two threads...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=752438
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=771596
The most close to your claim is one or two guy saying it could beat the PS2 first week sales posted (600k) and one of the guys are saying about shipment and not sales.
And yes... I read MC threads here since 2007.
test_account
XP-39C²
What were the reason for such belief? Why would the PS4 suddently sell 10+ million more than the PS3, before knowing any sales pattern of the PS4?
MisterR
Member
Sorry, not gonna let your bullshit slide because I don't have time to research old threads all day. Anyone in this thread with any frequency knows the truth of the matter.
Next to no one really used the PSP Slim like that since the setup was a pain and the result not really worth it (as PSP games didn't exactly scale well to TV screens, huge black borders included). TV out was an option, but far from a defining or even important feature of the hardware.
Switch on the other hand is through and through designed to be used both ways. TV out isn't a gimmick, but a central, defining feature. The setup is easy (you've got a dock and separate controllers) and the hardware optimized to render games in higher quality/resolution on TV. Comparisons to PSP Slim are laughable in that regard. It's a console-handheld-hybrid, just get over it already.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I never claimed anything lmao. You're getting too wound up. I just find the claims funny, if you don't wanna dig up evidence you don't have to. But if you wanna do the whole "lots of people said this wouldn't happen" angle I dont see why backing it up is suddenly "my bullshit".
Okay, sure.
thestopsign
Member
Splatoon 2 will sell along side Switch hardware for at least the next year. Even if it doesn't end up with a FW being only 10% of the total sales like the original in Japan, that doesn't mean it won't be a phenomenon. Next weeks drop is going to be big no matter how you slice it due to a lack of install base, but it will still be selling at least 20k a week in October. It will outsell the original Splatoon this year in any scenario that Nintendo ships 3+ million Switches.
Actually Chris did make a somewhat bizarre claim.
I won't say No One ever made that claim, because there's always a chance for a crazy person or two, but I have never seen that, as opposed to plenty saying the PS4 won't reach PS3 levels (even now, as you can see here).
Jawbreaker
Member
It is a bizarre claim. It was stated in an effort to frame it as "both sides" being the same, when the frequency of claims have clearly not been the same (for obvious reasons).
Huge opening for Splatoon 2. A greater than 50% attach rate in the game's first weekend outside of the Switch's launch window is crazy.
I'm surprised that the Switch hardware figure isn't higher given how low numbers have been in recent weeks. I thought that there might have been more of a stockpiling going on. I guess Nintendo is still fighting against a supply deficit.
I'm surprised that the Switch hardware figure isn't higher given how low numbers have been in recent weeks. I thought that there might have been more of a stockpiling going on. I guess Nintendo is still fighting against a supply deficit.
Well maybe we could lighten up sometimes about non-Nintendo sales?
PS3 stopped at 10,5m. The general opinion (for some time and not only now) is that PS4 will be at PS3 level minus or plus something. Who are these plenty that say something else?
Please lookout for your predictions from 4 years ago as well when you do.
Gotdatmoney
Member
The original point was basically the same point he makes everytime a system launches which is "people say a lot of stupid shit around launches, it's just what you choose to remember". I agree with this.
Lots of people saying PS4 will be the next PS2? I don't agree with that. Some? Yeah. Lots of people saying it'll sell worse than the PS3? Good chunk from what I remember. Lots saying it will sell better than PS3? Also a good chunk. 10:1 on the PS4 to PS2 claim? I wouldn't put numbers to that. How could anyone know?
If we've just ventured to the realm where this matters (it doesn't) I dont see why this is suddenly outrageous as a request. I am not the one claiming anything so I'm not obligated to dig up posts. Nor is "my bullshit" a real thing lol.
Side note, I thought the "rounding" bit gave away I was not seriously trying to have an argument lol.
Skullwaker
Member
You're right, it doesn't include digital. And Splatoon 2 had some good incentive to purchase it digitally, so I expect it did well in that department.
test_account
XP-39C²
What happened to him? Just busy with other stuff?
Why don't you do it? You won't like what you'll find for my PS4 LTD predictions before launch. On the other hand I can dig some very funny of yours that still wait to be quoted.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
Guys not everything is black or white, PS4 is not selling good but it's not selling bad either.
Sammy Samusu
Member
10./08. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 5.989 / 543.016 (-15%)
Actually if you take out some posters I'm having a disagreement it's another typical day between me and some of my usual beloved followers. It has been some time since the last one. In a few months the next.
A certain segment of game, sure. Dragon Quest, along with non-Persona MegaTen games, and Monster Hunter, did go to handhelds after the PS3's introduction. However, the Japanese market is not and was not just Dragon Quest. FF stayed on home consoles for example. I'm sure at the very least there are more people in Japan than in other territories for whom DQ on its own is a system-seller, but even in Japan there is still a market for games like Metal Gear, mainline Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo, Demon's Souls, what have you. And most of these games didn't go portable without becoming a game that played very differently or markedly worse (Peace Walker/Portable Ops in MGS's case), or remakes of older games and spin-offs (FF).
You could say there was more crossover between DS/PSP and Wii/PS3 in Japan than in the West, but it's still a fundamentally different way to play video games, and the types of games that they ultimately got aren't similar enough to be direct competitors I think.
So fate Extella had around a 20k shipment. It'll sell that in a month or so (?)
Sammy Samusu
Member
Zelda sold +1 copy!!!!
Peace Walker initial plans were to be named MGS5, Type-0 and Birth by Sleep didn't have the treatment of a low profile spin off,the opposite. Almost every Japanese company brought the biggest titles to handhelds.
Skullwaker
Member
Is it unprecedented for a system 4-5 months into its life to have 3 titles already sell 500k+?
Feel free to. I don't post my predictions/thoughts as know it all facts so I have no problem admitting I was wrong if someone wants to quote them.
If someone is bored enought to go digging threads from 3-4 years ago, he is going to find more posts talking about PS4 reaching a 5-6million LTD and even some funny ones about PS4 being the last sony device ever in Japan than the unicorn user predicting the return of the ps2, but I'm not the one that undervalues his time that much to do so.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Are the average digital ratios still looking to be 10% or so?
You mean your desires.
sure, why not
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Happy for splatoon, but whats up with the harsh zelda and ffxii drops?
DarkLordMalik
Member
PS4 should have an easier time reaching 10 million than PS3. For starters, it has Monster Hunter World, Final Fantasy VII: Remake and Kingdom Hearts 3. It will also keep getting any Dragon Quest Spin-offs or Yakuza games. The only thing that is likely going to cut its legs will be a potential PS5 in 2019. Otherwise it might continue getting steady sales unlike the PS3 which hit its peak with FFXIII and Slim.
Mr. Jimmy was specifically talking about Fate in that case.
About Splatoon 2, it's a damn shame the download codes/cards from Amazon are not tracked, because they seem have sold a substantial amount, and Bomberman sales last week shows such promotions can have noticeable impact on sales.
For Switch specifically?
DarkLordMalik
Member
Zelda will hit a ceiling soon. There are only so many people that are going to pick an open world Zelda unlike a game like Splatoon or Mario Kart.
FFXII drop is standard for a JRPG. It wasn't popular and the Zodiac Job System is already available in Japan so the appeal to play it for the first time isn't there.
Regardless, Peace Walker was not MGS5, Type-0 is not FFXIII, and Birth by Sleep can be whatever it wants (I'm not familiar with Kingdom Hearts), but KHIII is coming out on PS4.
Eolz
Member
I'll gladly eat some crow and say I predicted the PS4 to be at less than that at this time. I think it was around a million less.
It did a good comeback after a bad launch yeaf and achieved a good (for the current market obv) consistent weekly baseline in the end.
I still don't think that it will go up to 10M LTD (PS3 levels) in Japan at all though, but I've always said that it's mainly due to not lasting 8+ years like its predecessor. 8M max when the PS5 will be out is a lot more plausible.
Edit: just like I didn't expect a PS4 Pro delaying a PS5 further away.
It did a good comeback after a bad launch yeaf and achieved a good (for the current market obv) consistent weekly baseline in the end.
I still don't think that it will go up to 10M LTD (PS3 levels) in Japan at all though, but I've always said that it's mainly due to not lasting 8+ years like its predecessor. 8M max when the PS5 will be out is a lot more plausible.
Edit: just like I didn't expect a PS4 Pro delaying a PS5 further away.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Ahh, the times when people thought the PS4 wouldn't even outsell the Vita lol
Funnily enough, my outlandish prediction of PS4 doing better than PS3 seems to be closer to reality xD
gundamkyoukai
Member
I won't even say that PS5 will cut PS4 legs off .
I expect Japan will be cross gen with PS4\PS5 for a good while maybe even longer than the west .
Which will in turn hurt PS5 sales more than anything .