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[Frodo]

No idea why people are pulling to have a series go backwards just for some petty console war win. Not fans in the first place I guess? Not going to happen anyway.

Gee, relax. It is just a joke. I though it was pretty obvious.

 

[Jamix012]

Do people really believe this?

Persona games on Vita = 2

Persona games on 3DS = 0

Not that I expect Persona on Vita, but releasing the new entry on a portable they avoided to grew/move the fanbase there?

Yeah, no. Persona is basically a Sony series at this point...

I don't disagree with you at all, but I was just wondering what the 2nd Persona game on Vita was?

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

People are happy and all with Vita sales and stuff, but I just want to see how things are going to be after Sunday when they announce Persona 5 exclusive for the 3DS.

Gee, relax. It is just a joke. I though it was pretty obvious.

Sadly some people actually want the game to be 3DS exclusive for the lols or its their favourite platform. My conclusion is that they are not Persona fans.

 

[Lexxism]

i wish we had Vita TV numbers separated in the OP. That's gonna be an interesting experiment to watch in the next days and weeks ahead.

We do have a separate number for VTV and PSV. Maybe you didn't see it clearly

 

[cafemomo]

Call of Duty is #2 on the software chart?

Da fudge (in Japan)?

Now while I can question their taste in FPS because the last good CoD game was WaW, it's not surprising to see CoD do well. They love their FPS. While it may not sell gangbusters like out in the west, Japan totally doesn't hate western games/

People are happy and all with Vita sales and stuff, but I just want to see how things are going to be after Sunday when they announce Persona 5 exclusive for the 3DS.

If fatlus does decides to make a P4-2 then P5 could end up on iOS for all I care.

 

[metalslimer]

Is God Eater more popular than Soul Sacrifice? I don't remember Soul Sacrifice giving the Vita such a big bump.

Well you can't use that really as a reference as Vita TV also gave the system a bump this week, but yes God Eater is a much bigger game.

~42k opening week sales for Vita TV is expected yet worrisome. This means week 2 sales should be ~20k, and it'll quickly find a baseline of ~7k or lower. In 2014 we might be looking at 3-4k.

I don't see how this follows logically?

 

[big youth]

~42k opening week sales for Vita TV is expected yet worrisome. This means week 2 sales should be ~20k, and it'll quickly find a baseline of ~7k or lower. In 2014 we might be looking at 3-4k.

 

[StreetsAhead]

~42k opening week sales for Vita TV is expected yet worrisome. This means week 2 sales should be ~20k, and it'll quickly find a baseline of ~7k or lower. In 2014 we might be looking at 3-4k.

Given the nature of the product, did anyone seriously expect it to sell to anything but a subset of preexisting Vita owners?

 

[DaBoss]

Is God Eater more popular than Soul Sacrifice? I don't remember Soul Sacrifice giving the Vita such a big bump.

Well...God Eater is a pre-existing successful IP, while Soul Sacrifice was a new IP for the Vita.

 

[test_account]

You're right, I did forget Phantasy Star. Still, that title doesn't have a release date as far as I know, so it matters little for the short term. Freedom Wars is not going to do it.

Yeah, its just set for 2014 for now. But we'll see if the VitaTV drops like a rock next week or not (how much is "dropping like a rock" by the way?).

 

[Superman]

Being a vitabro, seeing it on top (even for only 1 week) filled my heart with joy.

And these are my thoughts exactly:

I think it's hillarious we're having a discussion about how Vita is doomed during the best week Vita had since launch and only the 2nd week it managed to outsell the 3ds. It reminds me of the 'now, wait till next week then it'll totally drop' comments we had from February until pretty much the summer.

Guys no one is saying Vita is now an incredibly popular machine that will take the world and Japan by storm, so no need to react with similar hyperbole like 'Vita TV is gonna drop to 10k next week'. I think metalslimmer put it best, all things considered Vita is doing well. Looking at it objectively of course, it's nowhere near having a proper healthy life. I think next year is gonna be interesting.

 

[shinra-bansho]

I don't see how this follows logically?

It doesn't play checkers.

 

[balohna]

Good job Vita, and Wii U's baseline seems to be higher than it used to be.

 

[Metallix87]

The system now has some momentum behind it and has strong third-party sales potential.

"Strong" is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?

Yeah, its just set for 2014 for now. But we'll see if the VitaTV drops like a rock next week or not (how much is "dropping like a rock" by the way?).

I honestly think it goes sub-15k next week, and then hovers around 10k weekly until January, when it disappears, more or less.

 

[metalslimer]

Good job Vita, and Wii U's baseline seems to be higher than it used to be.

I don't think the word baseline should be used for any system right now up until the end of January. Mario 3D World is next week and then the holiday sales start to ramp up in a few more.

 

[Richardbro]

Great numbers for Vita, I wish it more success. Never want to see a video game system do bad, not good for the industry as a whole, despite not being a fan of the Vita.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

I don't disagree with you at all, but I was just wondering what the 2nd Persona game on Vita was?

My bad, I thought Persona Arena was on Vita.

~42k opening week sales for Vita TV is expected yet worrisome. This means week 2 sales should be ~20k, and it'll quickly find a baseline of ~7k or lower. In 2014 we might be looking at 3-4k.

The product is already accomplishing it's objective, reach a different type of users and rise Vita userbase. That dosn't change the fact it was destined to be a pretty niche product.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

DP

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

No idea why people are pulling to have a series go backwards just for some petty console war win. Not fans in the first place I guess? Not going to happen anyway.

Sadly some people actually want the game to be 3DS exclusive for the lols or its their favourite platform. My conclusion is that they are not Persona fans.

Frankly people who are up in arms about Persona being on any platform that they don't want it to be on (3DS, Sony, Mobile, whatever) are a scourge on the Earth and should be purged from cultured society. Get a goddamn grip.

 

[Green Card]

I wonder how many VitaTV owners already own a vita. I bought one but I already had a vita.

 

[Metallix87]

Frankly people who are up in arms about Persona being on any platform that they don't want it to be on (3DS, Sony, Mobile, whatever) are a scourge on the Earth and should be purged from cultured society. Get a goddamn grip.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: There's a pretty decent chance that Persona 5 ends up on 3DS, and the internet will be a war zone if it comes to pass as so.

 

[urfe]

Nice to see that Wii U didn't go down too much.

First week sales of Vita TV being 40k makes you think it'll be sub 20k next week. Does it have any reason to hold?

Really curious about Mario's effect on Wii U for the rest of the year. Next week Wii U above 50k?

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: There's a pretty decent chance that Persona 5 ends up on 3DS, and the internet will be a war zone if it comes to pass as so.

And no matter what platform it releases on, it will probably be a good game, sell well to its fanbase (it's been a while since we've had a fresh new game in the series), and those who choose to be bitter and ridiculous will suffer the consequences. In the end their self-defeating nonsense will resolve, I just wish we could skip the stupidity.

 

[Damaniel]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: There's a pretty decent chance that Persona 5 ends up on 3DS, and the internet will be a war zone if it comes to pass as so.

I don't care what it comes out on, as long as it isn't packed to the gills with microtransactions (though not on smartphones would be optimal). Oh, and as long as it gets localized and released in America.

 

[Metallix87]

I don't care what it comes out on, as long as it isn't packed to the gills with microtransactions (though not on smartphones would be optimal). Oh, and as long as it gets localized and released in America.

I wouldn't worry about either of those, honestly.

 

[May16]

Sadly some people actually want the game to be 3DS exclusive for the lols or its their favourite platform. My conclusion is that they are not Persona fans.

Yes. Because having a given platform as your favorite completely disqualifies you from also being the fan of a certain series.

This brand of closed-minded jackassery is what makes the internet such a headache to read sometimes.

 

[watershed]

We do have a separate number for VTV and PSV. Maybe you didn't see it clearly

I see it now!

 

[duckroll]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: There's a pretty decent chance that Persona 5 ends up on 3DS, and the internet will be a war zone if it comes to pass as so.

No, there really isn't.

 

[Metallix87]

No, there really isn't.

Why not, exactly? The 3DS is the dominating handheld worldwide, and sales of Atlus's games on the device have been extremely good. Shin Megami Tensei IV, especially, was a great success. On top of that, Nintendo seems very ready and willing to help Atlus in terms of promotions and marketing, which could be seen as a great boon. Finally, Atlus is now part of Sega, and Sega has had great ties to Nintendo, with the recent Sonic: Lost World, as a sign of that partnership.

I'm not saying it's guaranteed, but it's definitely possible.

 

[Shengar]

Yes. Because having a given platform as your favorite completely disqualifies you from also being the fan of a certain series.

This brand of closed-minded jackassery is what makes the internet such a headache to read sometimes.

The same thing applies to those who said the game will be 3DS exclusive in serious manner too. PS3 is the most logical choice of platform (userbase, fan base, HD engine), anything beside that like PS4 or Wii U are excellent bonus. My sincere hope is for another HD JRPG, not a title that'll dubbed as x platform killer or something.

 

[Pie and Beans]

Frankly people who are up in arms about Persona being on any platform that they don't want it to be on (3DS, Sony, Mobile, whatever) are a scourge on the Earth and should be purged from cultured society. Get a goddamn grip.

And no matter what platform it releases on, it will probably be a good game, sell well to its fanbase (it's been a while since we've had a fresh new game in the series), and those who choose to be bitter and ridiculous will suffer the consequences. In the end their self-defeating nonsense will resolve, I just wish we could skip the stupidity.

Why on earth would I be happy for a videogame to go visually backwards and an ATLUS title onto region locked hardware at that which offers no hardware advantages over Vita? I sure am fucking glad SMT4 is only on 3DS too by the way as a UK resident. Fucking splendid stuff right there.

I mean Golden was just a slight bump up from PS2 to give a good look at P4 again (and actually see faces!), Catherine had some tasty visuals and I can't wait to see where they can have taken their PS3 level assets to next. I don't think thats particularly weird as someone that really enjoyed the whole package of P3 and P4.

But hey, war never changes.

 

[duckroll]

Why not, exactly? The 3DS is the dominating handheld worldwide, and sales of Atlus's games on the device have been extremely good. Shin Megami Tensei IV, especially, was a great success. On top of that, Nintendo seems very ready and willing to help Atlus in terms of promotions and marketing, which could be seen as a great boon. Finally, Atlus is now part of Sega, and Sega has had great ties to Nintendo, with the recent Sonic: Lost World, as a sign of that partnership.

I'm not saying it's guaranteed, but it's definitely possible.

Because I'm telling you for a fact that I know it is not on the 3DS, never was, and was never considered for it. And I know for a fact that I know better than you do when it comes to this.

 

[Metallix87]

Because I'm telling you for a fact that I know it is not on the 3DS, never was, and was never considered for it. And I know for a fact that I know better than you do when it comes to this.

I'm guessing you're not in a position to share any details, then?

I'll take your word for it, since you say it is so. To me, that more or less confirms it's a PS3 exclusive right now.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

Why on earth would I be happy for a videogame to go visually backwards and an ATLUS title onto region locked hardware at that which offers no hardware advantages over Vita? I sure am fucking glad SMT4 is only on 3DS too by the way as a UK resident. Fucking splendid stuff right there.

I mean Golden was just a slight bump up from PS2 to give a good look at P4 again (and actually see faces!), Catherine had some tasty visuals and I can't wait to see where they can have taken their PS3 level assets to next. I don't think thats particularly weird as someone that really enjoyed the whole package of P3 and P4.

But hey, war never changes.

Wah wah wah wah console warrior bullshit wah wah wah

The game will sell fine on any platform it's released, and the developers will make sure it's kickass no matter the platform. I'm sure somebody will care about how much you hate the horribly underpowered ripoff of a console that is the 3DS, somebody, somewhere, anywhere in the world, because it sure isn't anywhere in this thread.

EDIT: And there it is below me too! Another thread turns to shit by console warriors. Great job guys, really upping the ante of discussion here.

 

[Shengar]

Why not, exactly? The 3DS is the dominating handheld worldwide, and sales of Atlus's games on the device have been extremely good. Shin Megami Tensei IV, especially, was a great success. On top of that, Nintendo seems very ready and willing to help Atlus in terms of promotions and marketing, which could be seen as a great boon. Finally, Atlus is now part of Sega, and Sega has had great ties to Nintendo, with the recent Sonic: Lost World, as a sign of that partnership.

I'm not saying it's guaranteed, but it's definitely possible.

At least you could said it is for Wii U because I'm getting sick of having another JRPG on subpar machine that only comfort publisher in their comfort zone instead of trying to be ambitious with an HD game.

 

[Pie and Beans]

To me, that more or less confirms it's a PS3 exclusive right now.

How do you read one thing and then jump to a conclusion not mentioned at all? Maybe this is why you were set on a silly notion like Persona being 3DS exclusive after constant outings on HD platforms.

It can just as easily be a PS3/X360/Vita/Steam title. Well except WiiU. Of course.

Wah wah wah wah console warrior bullshit wah wah wah

The game will sell fine on any platform it's released, and the developers will make sure it's kickass no matter the platform. I'm sure somebody will care about how much you hate the horribly underpowered ripoff of a console that is the 3DS, somebody, somewhere, anywhere in the world, because it sure isn't anywhere in this thread.

EDIT: And there it is below me too! Another thread turns to shit by console warriors. Great job guys, really upping the ante of discussion here.

u wot m8. Is this the ugly end of tonights boozy Vita celebrations?

 

[duckroll]

Can we please stop the derail which happens every time someone "speculates" about <insert unannounced game> being on <insert unexpected platform>. It's stupid, it's boring because it's the same shit over and over, and it has nothing to do with sales.

 

[Frodo]

Because I'm telling you for a fact that I know it is not on the 3DS, never was, and was never considered for it. And I know for a fact that I know better than you do when it comes to this.

Persona 5 Xone exclusive confirmed.

Edit: sorry for the derail. We only need to wait until Sunday now, anyway.

 

[Metallix87]

At least you could said it is for Wii U because I'm getting sick of having another JRPG on subpar machine that only comfort publisher in their comfort zone instead of trying to be ambitious with an HD game.

That's some pretty interesting terminology you're using. You can be extremely ambitious with a handheld game, and the 3DS is certainly more than capable to deliver the type of experience JRPG fans want.

How do you read one thing and then jump to a conclusion not mentioned at all? Maybe this is why you were set on a silly notion like Persona being 3DS exclusive after constant outings on HD platforms.

It can just as easily be a PS3/X360/Vita/Steam title. Well except WiiU. Of course.

I'd honestly say Wii U is more likely than 360 and Steam. The reason I said PS3 exclusive is because Atlus is likely looking to Japan first in terms of deciding where the game belongs. Also, I love how you say "set on a silly notion", when all I said is that there was a chance, not a guarantee or anything.

 

[QaaQer]

Persona 5 Xone exclusive confirmed.

now that would be funny.

 

[Metallix87]

Can we please stop the derail which happens every time someone "speculates" about <insert unannounced game> being on <insert unexpected platform>. It's stupid, it's boring because it's the same shit over and over, and it has nothing to do with sales.

Fair enough. I'll drop the speculation on the subject.

 

[BlackJace]

Can we please stop the derail which happens every time someone "speculates" about <insert unannounced game> being on <insert unexpected platform>. It's stupid, it's boring because it's the same shit over and over, and it has nothing to do with sales.

Sunday seems so far away.

 

[ringwaldhaze]

PS3/360 seems the logical assumption to me. Why invest in the engine/HD development for Catherine and make P4:A multi-platform otherwise?

edit: Sorry. Just saw the post about pointless speculation...

 

[duckroll]

Fair enough. I'll drop the speculation on the subject.

It's not just you. It's everyone who decides to respond anytime there's any speculation with 50 reasons why a system is bad and then someone else will reply with 55 reasons why it's good, etc. None of that has anything to do with the thread, and it's just dumb!

Sunday seems so far away.

Yeah, I know right? I can't wait for Boardwalk Empire season 4 to end either!

 

[Dr. Feel Good]

Going off of no knowledge of the reception of the Vita TV outside of these first week sales im going to predict the thing sells on average less than 5K per week by end of January. Also God Eater 2 will see absolute tiny bump over holidays. I still believe peoples hope for this system is pointless, even despite pulling decent first week sales for certain genres and titles, I really don't think the system will ever grow to a respectable userbase. Same goes for Wii U.

 

[mrjohill]

Fair enough. I'll drop the speculation on the subject.

Don't worry we will find out sunday

 

[Shengar]

Wah wah wah wah console warrior bullshit wah wah wah

The game will sell fine on any platform it's released, and the developers will make sure it's kickass no matter the platform. I'm sure somebody will care about how much you hate the horribly underpowered ripoff of a console that is the 3DS, somebody, somewhere, anywhere in the world, because it sure isn't anywhere in this thread.

EDIT: And there it is below me too! Another thread turns to shit by console warriors. Great job guys, really upping the ante of discussion here.

Did saying any of this make.things better? I have my reasons, I owned 3DS and Vita. I'll buy it regardless of platform anyway but seeing a developer with such resource still develop a game for handheld when other option is available will be disappointing. Please that attitude of yours using ad hominem just make thing even more sour.

That's some pretty interesting terminology you're using. You can be extremely ambitious with a handheld game, and the 3DS is certainly more than capable to deliver the type of experience JRPG fans want.

SMT IV is pretty ambitious itself considering the scope for a handheld, but it is proven to be heavily gimped by 3DS weak hardware. If every game could have the quality of FEA battle animation (with feet) I will be a happy man.

The subject of speculating unreleased game especially for the sake of wanting to see user of any platform go mad is downright stupid and harmful. I'll drop the subject with this post.

 

[darkside31337]

Going off of no knowledge of the reception of the Vita TV outside of these first week sales im going to predict the thing sells on average less than 5K per week by end of January. Also God Eater 2 will see absolute tiny bump over holidays. I still believe peoples hope for this system is pointless, even despite pulling decent first week sales for certain genres and titles, I really don't think the system will ever grow to a respectable userbase. Same goes for Wii U.

Vita sales are up 60% from this YTD compare to last year at the same time. Every other system has declined, some massively so. I really don't get why people want to lump it with the Wii U when it's been a much more successful system. Obviously the Vita has been the furthest thing from a success but people have been writing it dead for a while in here and the little bugger proves people wrong once in a while.

I'm not sure what you would consider a respectable userbase. Personally I'd like to think it's respectable enough for third parties to continue to support that thing and there are still upcoming titles that would lead credence to that notion.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

Did saying any of this make.things better? I have my reasons, I owned 3DS and Vita. I'll buy it regardless of platform anyway but seeing a developer with such resource still develop a game for handheld when other option is available will be disappointing. Please that attitude of yours using ad hominem just make thing even more sour.

Does complaining about platforms you hate make yourself feel better? Because all I see are people who can't hold back their seething hatred for underpowered platforms for a single post in a thread about sales numbers.

Console warrior bullshit should go in another thread, if not in the garbage bin. And that's what you're defending, and of course peddling in the rest of your post I decided not to quote.

 

[Metallix87]

Vita sales are up 60% from this YTD compare to last year at the same time. Every other system has declined, some massively so. I really don't get why people want to lump it with the Wii U when it's been a much more successful system. Obviously the Vita has been the furthest thing from a success but people have been writing it dead for a while in here and the little bugger proves people wrong once in a while.

I think the reason is because the Vita has been barely staying above Wii U this year despite it getting several relevant releases, while Wii U's first major release is Mario 3D World in a few days. The power of Nintendo's first party franchises looms large, though the droughts are definitely taking their toll on the system, and Nintendo seems to be doing bugger all to alleviate the problems.