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Media Create Sales: Week 48, 2014 (Nov 24 - Nov 30)
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Pennywise83
Banned
Imo, easily above 100k units.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Etrian Odyssey did terribly.
Brand fatigue? Also, isn't this the 3rd installment of the EO series in 2014? Might explain why.
And Phantasy Star ;,;
Sega is definitely going to concentrate it's development efforts in mobile offerings moving forward.
Edit: 2nd installment. thxs ohlawd.
Brand fatigue? Also, isn't this the 3rd installment of the EO series in 2014? Might explain why.
And Phantasy Star ;,;
Sega is definitely going to concentrate it's development efforts in mobile offerings moving forward.
Edit: 2nd installment. thxs ohlawd.
Pennywise83
Banned
Nope, it's the first one. PQ is not an EO, though it shares the same gameplay. Also, this is not a terrible result by any mean.
Moor-Angol
Banned
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I thought Millennium Girl released this year; mistake on my part.
I don't know Penny; almost 40% decline comparatively to the last iteration is telling honestly. Etrian Odyssey is very much a niche product - their legs are always cut short. But maybe holidays would give them a boost?
Pennywise83
Banned
We were all expecting a similar debut to EOU, this is true. But I don't think that it changes much if they sell 105k or 130k units, at the end. Let's see how the game will perform during holidays; all the other EO games were released in May / June IIRC (anyway, outside the holiday season).
you mean TV vs. XB1 ?
yes, but just for a little margin
Still is a win
Don't worry, I was cheating. I saw a preview lol
Move aside Apes. Cranky Toad is coming through.^_^
That's assuming it doesn't end up doing 80-90k total. Which would definitely be something Atlus should be concerned about.
Dragon1893
Member
I'm surprised they still bother with the 360 and the PSP.
Lots of new Vita games in the chart and a nice bump for the hardware.
Lots of new Vita games in the chart and a nice bump for the hardware.
Metaps put up some interesting mobile statistics about the Japanese market: http://www.metaps.com/press/en/blog/157-jptrends1202
1.) Monster Strike has finally overtaken Puzzle & Dragons on a consistent basis. Okamoto's Revenge is in full effect.
2.) Some of the slight differences between Google Play and the App Store are looked at. Overall pretty similar as you would expect.
3.) In terms of what makes money and what gets downloaded, games represent a bigger percentage on Google Play than the App Store.
1.) Monster Strike has finally overtaken Puzzle & Dragons on a consistent basis. Okamoto's Revenge is in full effect.
2.) Some of the slight differences between Google Play and the App Store are looked at. Overall pretty similar as you would expect.
3.) In terms of what makes money and what gets downloaded, games represent a bigger percentage on Google Play than the App Store.
Well, it all depends with the end result here true but starting the sales much weaker especially for title which is more usually front loaded sales like this is never a good news.
Maybe, it will reach 100k maybe not too.T_T
Hope that with this, Sega will consider that it is surely not a good idea to keep pumping EO every year.
Give some love for this series plizzzz Sega.T_T
Or these one. At least while on same genre, it had a huge different setting and classes to play with.^_^
Moor-Angol
Banned
They will stop tracking them by the end of the year, that's a bit sad for PSP, one of the longest system we ever had (and games for 2015 are still planned)
small44
Member
They will embrace it when they offer to them games that interested in
Moor-Angol
Banned
hiska, have a question for you
lately I didn't pay so much attention about commercial on train or inside stations (I don't have a TV at home), but talking about Smash Wii, did you feel nintendo put the same efforts they put for 3DS version a couple of months ago?
It came out to my mind cause today when I was coming back home from work I noticed a panel inside Mejiro station and just after a couple of seconds I realized it was for Smash Wii and not 3DS
lately I didn't pay so much attention about commercial on train or inside stations (I don't have a TV at home), but talking about Smash Wii, did you feel nintendo put the same efforts they put for 3DS version a couple of months ago?
It came out to my mind cause today when I was coming back home from work I noticed a panel inside Mejiro station and just after a couple of seconds I realized it was for Smash Wii and not 3DS
Pennywise83
Banned
True.
Latest EO entries sold 70% of their LTD during the first week. With such %, EOU2 would end up around 85k units. Let's see if holidays could mitigate the drop, and allow the game to reach the 100k mark.
hiska, have a question for you
lately I didn't pay so much attention about commercial on train or inside stations (I don't have a TV at home), but talking about Smash Wii, did you feel nintendo put the same efforts they put for 3DS version a couple of months ago?
It came out to my mind cause today when I was coming back home from work I noticed a panel inside Mejiro station and just after a couple of seconds I realized it was for Smash Wii and not 3DS
I think they are promoting in a same level in game shops, but i feel the ads are less frequent outside. It doesn't mean they're low, though.
Yup, next year looks at least decent. Bloodborne and DQH are a nice start.
Yeah I think if it can make up for the difference because of the holiday season, and it ends up with 100k or so, it's not really that big a deal. But if the decline is consistent in the LTD as well, then there's trouble.
Not exactly, the similarity of PSO2 offering a close experience for free on the same platform is a Vita specific issue. PS3 also has triple the userbase Vita does, there's a sizable audience not being served by any Vita exclusive. Which is probably why no other major publishers are doing Vita exclusives anymore, Sega was the last.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Oh hiska-kun!
Are you going to visit the Pokemon Center Mega Tokyo when it opens?
Side note, also I just visited Famitsu, what are they saying here?:
They are commenting on Pokemon & Phantasy Star's performance but can't decipher much, google translate is terrible ;.;
Are you going to visit the Pokemon Center Mega Tokyo when it opens?
Side note, also I just visited Famitsu, what are they saying here?:
They are commenting on Pokemon & Phantasy Star's performance but can't decipher much, google translate is terrible ;.;
DarkLordMalik
Member
I expected great things from PSN but the sales are just so.............
duck posted up the first game from Yoshida at his new job as Art Director with CyDesignation/CyGames.
Probably not very shocking, but it wasn't their PS4 title, and is instead a mobile game.
This was discussed in a couple of threads with most of the people in here, and the actual thread is a bit dead, so I thought I'd duplicate his post here.
Generally these types of games are released not too long after they're unveiled, so we should have data on how it's performing within a couple of months if not within a couple of weeks.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=904757
Probably not very shocking, but it wasn't their PS4 title, and is instead a mobile game.
This was discussed in a couple of threads with most of the people in here, and the actual thread is a bit dead, so I thought I'd duplicate his post here.
Generally these types of games are released not too long after they're unveiled, so we should have data on how it's performing within a couple of months if not within a couple of weeks.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=904757
http://www.4gamer.net/games/283/G028349/20141203044/
BlazeGames (a subsidiary of CyGames) has announced a upcoming smartphone RTS featuring Akihiko Yoshida as art director and Hitoshi Sakimoto as composer. It's set in a fantasy world of alchemy and airships, and there'll also be raid bosses and 4-player co-op battles.
sörine;141443383 said:
Userbase is only relevant if the sales are really constrained by the userbase. Given that Phantasy Star Online 2 has over 1 million users only on Vita, according to an earlier report this year, that doesn't seem to be the case.
If Sega can't sell their own game to Phantasy Star fans, I think they would have a hard time selling it outside their fans that are already playing Phantasy Star Online 2 in some way.
My belief is that a PS3 version (or in any other platform) would change the fate of the game simply because it is not a compelling product. PS3 sales would not be game-changing.
Eolz
Member
I don't remember, what was the consensus around here for the LTD numbers in Japan for the WiiU (fall 2016-mid 2017 depending on the opinions)? 3.5-4M?
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
Excited to see Wii U numbers for next week.
Super Smash Wii U comes out in Japan on the 6th.
Super Smash Wii U comes out in Japan on the 6th.
Resident Evil GC - 119k / 267k
Resident Evil Wii - 24k / 71k
Resident Evil PS3 - 48k / ---
For retail and PS3 only I would say it did fine.
Captain Smoker
Member
7.310.000 shipped as of September 2014.
Should be 9.310.000 minimum by the end of the year.
Revival Selection sold 94k on PS3 in 2011, so i think is kinda low,
But we have to take into account that Revival Selection are 2 games and PS3 was selling more at the time.
Pennywise83
Banned
And also it's the third version of the same remake of a game that already had plenty of versions.
A 3 million userbase will always be a constraint for almost any major title. I'd imagine there are also plenty of Phantasy Star fans without a Vita and I'm not sure any number of free downloads really indicates otherwise.
A significant issue people were bringing up with PSO2 was that Nova was too similar to it so there's little incentive for people who played PSO2 to bother. Logically then bringing the game to a system with a substantially higher userbase without PSO2 (PS3, 3DS, etc) could bring up it's sales potential as well. Not a sure thing by any means, and that's not to say Nova's issues couldn't have been overcome in other ways while staying Vita exclusive, but to say it would've sold identically even if it were on other systems as is isn't realistic. That's not the way big games work.
Sammy Samusu
Member
You guys think Toukiden 2 will be a Vita exclusive, or another multiplatform like SAO and GE?
I'm assuming it won't be on PSP, but will probably be multiplatform with PS3 and/or PS4.
As far as I can tell all the Sony monetary incentives these days are going toward the PS4.
sörine;141463345 said:
3 million is a constraint for a major-major title, but if people considered a performance similar to God Eater 2 on PSV a good target for PSN, it isn't a big constraint. The number of Phantasy Star Online 2 users (not downloads) on Vita only adds to show that Vita userbase is not a constraint for the intended numbers.
If PSV doesn't manage numbers comparable to God Eater 2 or Freedom Wars, which are from the same genre and should appeal to mostly the same audience, userbase constraint cannot be determined as a decisive factor. It may be a factor, but may not be the most important factor when we consider that the reaction to PS Nova has not been good since the first demo.
That is not to say you may not be right that a PS3 version could change things, but I believe it wouldn't add more than 20% or 25% to the total sales considering the biggest complaint that the game it not very compeling to PS fans. That wouldn't be much considering that if it goes as expected, PSN will end near 200K LTD.
Pennywise83
Banned
How can this be proven using a F2P game?
Based on what they have already said, it will likely be a PS4 and Vita title, like God Eater 2 Rage Burst. Makes a lot of sense since Vita should get the biggest part of Japanese sales, while PS4 the biggest part of western sales.
theprodigy
Member
well it did bring the two LTDs closer, so....Media Create overshooting or Famitsu undershooting? you decide, I guess (lol)
Because if there are 1 million Phantasy Star Online 2 players on Vita, it is not the number of Vitas that are preventing Phantasy Star Nova to sell 400k to 500k, it is the lack of interest on PS Nova by more than 80% of the PSO2 players.
If they said every F2P game was downloaded had more than a million different PSN users downloading it, or at least close to a million, then the number would be irrelevant. I have never seen anything confirming this proposition.