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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2012 (Dec 17 - Dec 23)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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1 mio is no milestone? Also there is new years which is quite big in japan
Every system down YOY YTD except for 3DS, Wii U, and Vita. I think we know which systems are succeeding in Japan these days.
Well this week usually see lower sales all across the board then after new year there's a bump from all the kids spending the money they got as gifts. But usually it's not as crazy as the past two weeks.
grimshawish
Banned
Right lets not. Co'mon people lets not do the 'there was a WiiU here' or 'there are no WiiU's here' stuff. Its stupid and we all know that.
Showing a WiiU is hardly definitive proof of stock, nor is it proof of availability or anything.
What time was it taken? Where? When? When did they get more stock in?
Meanwhile by sales? We can say pretty surely that Animal Crossing is not 'out of stock' 100%.
I'm fine taking away you can find a WiiU, I don't think that drop is just down to stock as that doesn't make much sense. However lets not do the 'heres some pics' stuff.
The picture of you alone at the store compared to other pictures of lines shows why this is all relative and not an indication of anything. As I say your 'Animal Crossing is nowhere' doesn't hold up entirely in sales, they obviously got more stock out there, probably sold all that but if you went at a certain time you'd probably find loads of copies.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
Muhahahaha @AC
dragonfart28
Banned
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
It's obviously the Vita. It's almost double what it was last year. EDIT: Scratch that, the WiiU is a hojillion times bigger than last year, winner revealed.
Nintendo is probably very happy for their decision of instituting digital downloads of games. What could have been a major supply crisis caused by underestimating the market ended up being the success of the year.
Not much of a war if you ask me. This isn't like back in 2006 when there was a post every page complaining about how the DS is winning even though: it sucks so bad, non-games, Nintendo casuals, stupid gimmicks, death to the industry etc. Now that was fun to watch. 2012 is great in a different direction though. Who will be the first to spin the numbers?
Let me guess ms and sony is fine and dandy right?
electroplankton
Banned
Next round, Mario&Luigi please.
Maybe I'm reading the figures wrong but 3DS and vita are both down YOY.
Everyone was talking for supply problems at launch except for DCharlie.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
No. They're all awful.
But, for a brand new system during the holidays with no shortages? Those sales aren't good at all.
TAS
Member
|3DS # | 411.272 | 319.025 |
| WIU | 122.843 | 126.916 |
| PSP # | 65.859 | 33.002 |
| PS3 | 47.626 | 42.976 |
| PSV | 21.266 | 14.446 |
| WII | 13.049 | 10.346 |
| 360 | 1.689 | 1.760 |
| PS2 | 928 | 1.102 |
| NDS # | 745 | 541
Okay..so the 3DS, PSP, PS3, PSV and Wii all had increased sales this week over last yet the WiiU (being a new system during the hottest sales time of the year in Japan) saw a decrease because of 'demand contraints'? Is that what you expect us to believe?
| WIU | 122.843 | 126.916 |
| PSP # | 65.859 | 33.002 |
| PS3 | 47.626 | 42.976 |
| PSV | 21.266 | 14.446 |
| WII | 13.049 | 10.346 |
| 360 | 1.689 | 1.760 |
| PS2 | 928 | 1.102 |
| NDS # | 745 | 541
Okay..so the 3DS, PSP, PS3, PSV and Wii all had increased sales this week over last yet the WiiU (being a new system during the hottest sales time of the year in Japan) saw a decrease because of 'demand contraints'? Is that what you expect us to believe?
DragonSworne
Banned
It represents a baseline.
Averaging 120k units a week until E3 should be good enough. But I agree, Nintendo really needs a big E3 to maintain sales in Japan.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
You're reading it wrong.
Chris was making a joke. It's not that supply is constrained, it's that nobody wants it. Lesser demand, hence "demand constraints" as a clever turn of phrase.
grimshawish
Banned
Wow dude, I took a couple of pictures to share my own personal experience and you decide to get all up on my shit about it.
I'm a guy with a camera, not a fucking photojournalist, dude.
I do not need to take a fucking picture of every single fuckdamn Wii-U that I see in my life. I took a shot the other day of some in a case. I see them often. I shared the fact that I see them often and I shared the picture that I took. I am not the Mars rover here to intricately photograph every detail of what I see and send it back to you.
I live here and I go to game shops. Sometimes I take pictures of interesting things. Today I shared them as part of something to add to our collective opinions about where sales are going and experiences upon which they may be based. You don't need to act like this is some kind of courtroom trial where I'm bringing this in with a lawyer and I'm gonna try and win a big case. Holy shit, dude.
Kacho
Gold Member
I thought there were shortages with the Deluxe version?
test_account
XP-39C²
There is the other possibility too, that there wasnt enough demand to cause a bump. The 3DS and PSP are actually the only two systems who really saw a more noticeable bump in hardware sales. The other systems are more in the same ballpark as the previous week.
I dont think they get lost in the shuffle, but the Vita situation is the same now as before, so there probably isnt too much to add than what have already been said during the last year.
grimshawish
Banned
Man...am just saying it says nothing. Not meaning to get up on your shit; in fact I do agree with some of your points.
No need to get testy.
Anyway all the 'holy shit dude' comments aren't exactly enticing to your comments but nevermind.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Wii U will tank in Jan & Feb for sure. It has no chance to keep a 100k+ weekly average
Some of you guys sure enjoyed your Christmas brandy. lol
Chris1964 must be pissing himself laughing at all these sales comments.
The WiiU will be fine, just as long as NCL makes sure to make potential buyers aware if upcoming software. But that's not going to stop Jan from being brutal though. There's bugger all available.
Chris1964 must be pissing himself laughing at all these sales comments.
The WiiU will be fine, just as long as NCL makes sure to make potential buyers aware if upcoming software. But that's not going to stop Jan from being brutal though. There's bugger all available.
When are you going to change your avatar?
Barack Lesnar
Banned
He didn't give me new one yet, maybe he feels pity or something I don't know.
grimshawish
Banned
Well no...ofc it doesn't.
3DS couldn't even manage that. WiiU will be selling a lot less than 3DS weekly no matter how successful it is.
100k isn't the mark of success.
I don't think I'm going to be able to handle holiday 2013. I'll probably need to take a break from gaf for awhile, lest I suffer an aneurysm. I fully expect both PS4 and XB3 to come significantly short of hitting this year's wii u numbers and very few people willing to point that out. It might be a bit closer world wide outside of japan but I doubt by much.
You're talking to heavy about sales.
theresyourproblem.jpg
Why does it have to be so black and white with people? Why are people saying if there's no stock somewhere it's a success and if there is a Wii U somewhere (with photo proof!) there's no demand?
Maybe, just maybe, the Wii U has relatively decent demand and really good supply levels.
Nothing exceptional, nothing doomworthy.
Maybe, just maybe, the Wii U has relatively decent demand and really good supply levels.
Nothing exceptional, nothing doomworthy.
electroplankton
Banned
The total for the year is up.
what
of course it doesn't wtf
I'm talking the differene between sinking sub 20k in a month or not
That isn't as interesting!
I basically agree. I think these are overall decent numbers, but the only conclusions I think are fair to make at this point are that Wii U isn't the Vita but it isn't the Wii either.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Yeah i meant that for dragonsworne, sorry.
Another prediction: It will be 30-40k per week before E3. After E3 it will see a little bump assuming they don't totally drop the ball there. Wouldn't be surprised if it went under 30k to be honest, like the low 20s.
Yeah I just realized. I thought he was talking about this week YOY.
Gaf tends to think in binary. ones and zeros, ones and zeros. While there are plenty of intelligent people on here, the collective tends to think of everything as either yeses or nos, success or bomba. There is no in between on gaf because that would require critical thinking.
I've gotten pretty upset about it in the past but I've been trying not to let it annoy me too much. It's just a matter of choosing to only really respond to certain people and trying not to take things too seriously.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
Yes, I agree. The bombshells will begin to fly in 2013. Especially if all three consoles bring about the same performance or do mediocre numbers.
GAF's impression of the WiiU will heavily depend on the software support, which seems dumb or obvious to say, but i think it's an important point. It'll be the difference between people screaming "DOOOOOMED" (unironically) versus "well deserved numbers for ninty there."
Most forums have a craving for particular narratives. The problem with these narratives is that they tend to be simplistic and boil it down to "good guys" (my team) vs "bad guys" (everything from casual crap to big budget QTE extravaganzas). And of course a narrative needs to be interesting, so you need to make every plot point as big and bold as possible. It needs to be epic, monumental, market shaking, soul crushing. When you view the stakes as being high because they have to follow a narrative, there's no choice but to blow it into only the most massive historical event that's ever happened to gaming.
That isn't exactly bold
DragonSworne
Banned
In order for Wii U not to keep a 100k average by the end of January, it will have to sell less than 800k units ltd.
Are you predicting that Wii U will sell less 243k units in the next 5 weeks? An average of less than 50k a week?
That's insanity.
If you add 4 more weeks for February, it will need to maintain a 70k average for the next 9 weeks.
That's more reasonable but you can't describe that as "tanking", lol
Bruno MB
Member
3DS hit sub 20k sales just 2 and a half months after its release though it managed to recover a bit, weekly sales of 30k - 40k until June for Wii U is overly optimistic.
Code:
1 2011-02-21 374,764 (Launch)
2 2011-02-28 209,623
3 2011-03-07 96,463
4 2011-03-14 61,394
5 2011-03-21 50,710
6 2011-03-28 42,979
7 2011-04-04 32,910
8 2011-04-11 28,252
9 2011-04-18 23,038
10 2011-04-25 28,413
11 2011-05-02 29,149
12 2011-05-09 18,324
13 2011-05-16 17,240
14 2011-05-23 24,283
15 2011-05-30 27,357
16 2011-06-06 24,649
17 2011-06-13 40,649
18 2011-06-20 27,905
19 2011-06-27 30,233
20 2011-07-04 22,943
21 2011-07-11 46,637
22 2011-07-18 31,826
23 2011-07-25 16,415
24 2011-08-01 4,132
25 2011-08-08 196,077 (Price drop)TreasureHunterG
Banned
Wii U in Japan pretty much consists in NSBM U and Nintendo Land. MH3G HD will not last long and all other games were completely ignored by Wii U's owners and looking the support for it for the next months, it'll probably take a nose dive in sales.
I think Iwata is in serious trouble now. Considering Wii U is being sold at a loss and he had a salary cut because of 3DS bad sales at beginning.
I think Iwata is in serious trouble now. Considering Wii U is being sold at a loss and he had a salary cut because of 3DS bad sales at beginning.
klapauzius
Banned
Hilarious comment. The Wii U has much higher sales than PS3 and XBox360 at launch, they are just marginal below Wii launch sales!
I like your "throw something at the wall and see if it sticks" approach to predictions, lol.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
MH3G HD sales are actually pretty good right now based on last week's numbers. Selling about the same ratio to its portable counterpart as P3rd did on a console with a fraction of the install base is not bad at all.