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NBC Cancels Hannibal after 3 Seasons. Show will now be shopped around at other venues

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dead souls

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Shame on you people. Did you fools watch American Horror Story:Coven? Because I did. And it was terrible.
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AHS:Coven is the best single season of television this entire decade (so far, though let's be honest it will never be topped).

A true masterpiece that any fan of television should worship.
 
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dead souls said:
AHS:Coven is the best single season of television this entire decade (so far, though let's be honest it will never be topped).

A true masterpiece that any fan of television should worship.
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I don't think it hurts you that much. I think you kind of believe it. Deep down. What turns your fears propelled you to write such inanities.

Face the monster inside you and it may even look back.

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Verger

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So if Amazon passed on it (and that's if that thing is even close to legit), is it possible for a company like Netflix to take it and not run afoul of any rights that Amazon still holds?
 
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Vlad

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Candeldandel said:
Fair enough, but it depends on how available it is, the duration of each episode, and how long the series has been going on as well. Some people just don't have time (or don't want to make it) :\
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Just based off my own anecdotal evidence, I think what really didn't do the show any favors is being on Amazon instead of Netflix. I've been telling many friends about the show, and the conversation always went like so:

I gush about how awesome the show is.
Them: "Sounds like a good show, is it on Netflix?"
Me: "Only on disc there, but it's availble for streaming on Amazon if you've got a Prime subscription".
Them: "Eh, I've only got Netflix, so I guess I'll catch it if it ever goes up over there."

Every single time.
 
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yami4ct

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Someone asked Amazon CS about this and tried to report it as news? Haha. Why would CS know anything about ongoing negotiations anyway? That's one of the most clickbait-y things I've seen in a while.
 
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Mariolee

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icarus-daedelus said:
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"Amazon studios is focusing on developing and producing original content, and isnt seeking already-produced material that is ready or has already been on the market." Jenn M., customer service representative. Whatever that means.

Calm down, everyone, and in the future please actually read links before posting hearsay that will rile people up.
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I suppose it's because I haven't worked in customer service before but it seems like such a definitive statement to make for customer service rep to say unless they were informed by higher ups to say such a thing. I would think customer service reps are at least partially responsible to well...rep the company and their stance on an issue. The only other explanation is that this isn't the first time someone has asked to add another show aside from Hannibal to their programming and that this is for that.
 
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Candeldandel

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Vlad said:
Just based off my own anecdotal evidence, I think what really didn't do the show any favors is being on Amazon instead of Netflix. I've been telling many friends about the show, and the conversation always went like so:

I gush about how awesome the show is.
Them: "Sounds like a good show, is it on Netflix?"
Me: "Only on disc there, but it's availble for streaming on Amazon if you've got a Prime subscription".
Them: "Eh, I've only got Netflix, so I guess I'll catch it if it ever goes up over there."

Every single time.
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Yep :\ Though I'm not gonna complain if Amazon picks it up, so, eh
 
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yami4ct

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Mariolee said:
I suppose it's because I haven't worked in customer service before but it seems like such a definitive statement to make for customer service rep to say unless they were informed by higher ups to say such a thing. I would think customer service reps are at least partially responsible to well...rep the company and their stance on an issue. The only other explanation is that this isn't the first time someone has asked to add another show aside from Hannibal to their programming and that this is for that.
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Any time a show with even a semi-cult following gets cancelled, fans take to email campaigns and social media to get it back. They probably hit up any online company doing streaming originals. Not too surprised amazon CS would have a form letter for it.
 
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Leona Lewis

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Mariolee said:
I suppose it's because I haven't worked in customer service before but it seems like such a definitive statement to make for customer service rep to say unless they were informed by higher ups to say such a thing. I would think customer service reps are at least partially responsible to well...rep the company and their stance on an issue. The only other explanation is that this isn't the first time someone has asked to add another show aside from Hannibal to their programming and that this is for that.
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It's clearly a stock reply to discourage exactly this type of fan-campaign spamming. If the boilerplate response were even somewhat modest, something to the effect of "Amazon has not announced any plans regarding..." then it would just embolden fans' hopes of the possibility.

Amazon CS doesn't want to be inundated with desperate entreaties, so I'm sure the rep was just doing her job.

Doesn't mean anything as far as Amazon's actual plans, though.
 
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Kevin

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icarus-daedelus said:
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"Amazon studios is focusing on developing and producing original content, and isnt seeking already-produced material that is ready or has already been on the market." Jenn M., customer service representative. Whatever that means.

Calm down, everyone, and in the future please actually read links before posting hearsay that will rile people up.
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Alright I apologize, I didn't know that the customer service rep would be able to pull stuff out of their ass and speak about what Amazon will and will not pick up without having any actual knowledge. My mistake, I apologize.
 
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Leona Lewis

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As a joke, I recently bugged Amazon about when The Last Guardian would be available for pre-order...on PS3.

I was promptly assured that the PS3 release would arrive in late 2015 ahead of the PS4 version.

...

Which is just to say, I could've become Internet famous by sending the CS chat to Kotaku, but I figured the joke had already run its course.
 
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Flynn77

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VistraNorrez said:
There is no reason not to jump into Hannibal at this point. They've treated every season as its own story. Each finale works as its own series finale. And even though season 4 is very likely, season 3 should work the best so far as a series finale. It's not like Thomas Harris wrote Red Dragon as the beginning of a series. It's a self contained story. By the end of season 3 the show will have gone through 5 distinct arcs: Season 1, Season 2 Part 1, Season 2 Part 2, Season 3 Part 1, and Season 3 Part 2. There's a hell of a lot to enjoy about the show on these terms.

Jump in now, support the show. Support it where every its new home is.
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I love the show but let's be realistic. It's completely impenetrable for someone jumping in at this point. The style it's developed is now extreme, you need time to be walked into that stuff! Add to that the first two episodes I've seen are confusing as hell if you haven't seen the previous series, there's zero context to what's happening.

Edit: Would be a real gift for Netflix though. Drop all the season 4/previous seasons episodes at once, I think they would bend over backwards to grab and re market this, it completely fits their brand.
 
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BocoDragon

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Verger said:
So if Amazon passed on it (and that's if that thing is even close to legit), is it possible for a company like Netflix to take it and not run afoul of any rights that Amazon still holds?
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Netflix actually runs Hannibal in Canada. Not sure if that really settles that question... Just saying US streaming rights for Hannibal season 1-3 aren't a whole indicator of how this thing could shake out.
 
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ivysaur12

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Napoleonthechimp said:
Isn't Amazon Studios just the development arm of Amazon that focuses on original content? It isn't really the right department to ask about picking up Hannibal.

In the recent past Amazon has picked up cancelled shows. The BBC's "Ripper" show is an example. So there is a precedent.
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No, Jenn M. sort of settled this :-\
 
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The One Who Knocks

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vogelkacke said:
thats not what i meant

you can only tell so much of hannibal and will until it gets boring and its definitely on the verge of becoming boring. i think after season 3 they could have wrapped up this will and hannibal plot and introduced starling
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I understand what you mean, but I firmly disagree that without the rights to Clarice the show was doomed. Fuller's original plan was that of they didn't get the rights, they would still follow the approximate beats of the story, they'd just manipulated it enough to avoid the rights issues. Clarice's character doesn't need to be named 'Clarice', and they're not restricted from inventing new characters. Not having the Silence plot was an issue (and what Fuller has said of his plans for season four is worrying to me), no doubt, but it wasn't fatal in any form.

EDIT: I should clarify I'm saying this even with an awareness of what the rough plan for this season is from Fuller's public comments, and knowing where it (the season) may end if it remains faithful.
 
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VistraNorrez

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Flynn77 said:
I love the show but let's be realistic. It's completely impenetrable for someone jumping in at this point. The style it's developed is now extreme, you need time to be walked into that stuff! Add to that the first two episodes I've seen are confusing as hell if you haven't seen the previous series, there's zero context to what's happening.

Edit: Would be a real gift for Netflix though. Drop all the season 4/previous seasons episodes at once, I think they would bend over backwards to grab and re market this, it completely fits their brand.
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This was in reply to The Real Abed saying he never watched the show because he knew it was doomed and wanted a proper ending. I'm saying watch the whole show because it will feel complete even at 3 seasons. It appears I wasn't clear enough, and it seemed like I meant watch the latest episodes.
 
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BearPawB

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I didn't watch this show because the first few episodes were Criminal Minds esque trash.

Oh, a smart but socially awkward guy is able to think like killers? Never heard that before


I know I know I know before you scream at me Ive heard it gets better, even amazing. But it was never going to grow an audience with first episodes that are so generic
 
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water_wendi

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BearPawB said:
I didn't watch this show because the first few episodes were Criminal Minds esque trash.

Oh, a smart but socially awkward guy is able to think like killers? Never heard that before
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im pretty sure all those other examples are copies of him. Graham is the OG FBI profiler from like almost 40 years ago. Thats kind of like complaining that Sherlock Holmes is just another detective in a long list of detectives that can spot things everyone else misses.
 
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Blader

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BearPawB said:
I didn't watch this show because the first few episodes were Criminal Minds esque trash.

Oh, a smart but socially awkward guy is able to think like killers? Never heard that before


I know I know I know before you scream at me Ive heard it gets better, even amazing. But it was never going to grow an audience with first episodes that are so generic
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CBS' whole business model would beg to differ.
 
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BertramCooper

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BearPawB said:
I didn't watch this show because the first few episodes were Criminal Minds esque trash.

Oh, a smart but socially awkward guy is able to think like killers? Never heard that before


I know I know I know before you scream at me Ive heard it gets better, even amazing. But it was never going to grow an audience with first episodes that are so generic
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Even with the procedural elements being very prominent at the show's outset, the show has been polished and slick as hell from the very beginning. So as far as I'm concerned, it has always been a massive step above your typical CBS procedural crap.

And while I'm glad the show has moved beyond them, I actually think the procedural elements were remarkably effective and really helped develop the show's characters. The last show I can think of that integrated procedural beats as well as Hannibal was probably Veronica Mars.
 
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VistraNorrez

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BearPawB said:
I know I know I know before you scream at me Ive heard it gets better, even amazing. But it was never going to grow an audience with first episodes that are so generic
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The most popular shows tend to be the most generic. Being generic means a greater chance at a wider audience.

With that said, the show was gorgeous from frame one. From the cinematography to the murder tableaus. Also the very first scene of the entire show will tie directly to the second half of the 3rd season. The procedural elements were very deceptive as many things have come back, and each episode was important to building Will and Hannibal's relationship.
 
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dangeROSS

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I didn't even know the third season had started! Wow. I'll have to start catching up with episodes on demand now. I love the show and this is sad news. Hopefully someone comes along to pick it up.
 
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BearPawB

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BertramCooper said:
Ugh.
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I get it, this is a thread of fans. But you fans seem really confused why no one watched this show. I am telling you why I stopped watching.

You can not like my answer, or think I am wrong. I know I am wrong, because apparently it turns into something pretty great.

But the procedural feel of the show mixed with the boring main character is why i stopped watching.
 
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