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Netanyahu 'told New Zealand backing UN vote would be declaration of war'

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Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told New Zealand’s foreign minister that support for a UN resolution condemning Israeli settlement-building in the occupied territories would be viewed as a “declaration of war”.

According to reports in Israeli media, the Israeli PM called Murray McCully, the foreign minister of New Zealand, before Friday’s resolution, which was co-sponsored by Wellington. Netanyahu told him: “This is a scandalous decision. I’m asking that you not support it and not promote it.

“If you continue to promote this resolution, from our point of view it will be a declaration of war. It will rupture the relations and there will be consequences. We’ll recall our ambassador [from New Zealand] to Jerusalem.”

McCully, however, refused to back down, telling Netanyahu: “This resolution conforms to our policy and we will move it forward.”

A western diplomat confirmed that the call took place and described the conversation as “harsh”.

The details of the call – disclosed in Haaretz – suggest a mounting sense of panic on the part of Netanyahu in the run-up to the UN security council resolution that passed on Friday demanding an end to settlement building.

As well as the Netanyahu call, a senior official in Israel’s foreign ministry called New Zealand’s ambassador to Israel, Jonathan Curr, and warned that if the resolution came to a vote, Israel might close its embassy in Wellington in protest.

Israel responded furiously to the vote, threatening diplomatic reprisals against the countries that voted in favour. Diplomatic ties with New Zealand were temporarily severed and ambassador Itzhak Gerberg was recalled.

But in a sign that the international pressure may be being felt by the Netanyahu administration, scheduled plans to consider for approval 600 new settlement houses in occupied east Jerusalem were abruptly removed from the agenda of the city’s municipality on Wednesday.

Netanyahu’s language and behaviour – which has resulted in ambassadors being reprimanded and consultations with foreign leaders, including the UK’s Theresa May, cancelled – has raised eyebrows among foreign diplomats, who point out that the UN resolution does no more than confirm the longstanding view of the international community on Jewish settlements.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/28/netanyahu-told-new-zealand-backing-un-vote-would-be-declaration-of-war
 
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Luckily, all of the world maps in Israel's war room have accidentally omitted New Zealand, so they cannot be found.
 
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I don't get why he's so fussed about it. Israeli right wing already considers the UN a laughingstock, you just write up a press release puff piece that amounts to "lol, United Nations" and move on.

I think it's just part of the thin-skinned nature of right-wingers around the world. It's all about saving face and nothing else matters (victory or defeat or anything).
 
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Even more embarassing are the responses by the Republicans in the US. Israel should realize they are making themselves internationally isolated. More and more democratic voters in the US do not support the current Israeli state as it is, many white nationalists in the republican side are anti-jewish. They have lost the once US like backing they had from the UK and France. Israel needs to get Netanyahu out of office as quick as possible. His one foreign diplomatic victory has been the courting of India and hindu nationalist leader Narendra Modi, but as this point in time, he went behind Obama's back using Israeli espionage to leak the Iran deal to senators so they could try and stop Obama (something that would be treason as US elected officials used foreign espionage against their own country to undermine their own leader). Now his reaching out to Trump with the Egypt vote when Trump has no ACTUAL power as he is not sworn in yet was anotber slap in the face to Obama. Boehner and Congress overstepped their constitutional authority when they invited and received Netanyahu over Obama. That is something only the President can do.
 
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You're condemning nations because they're actually standing up to you for once against building on occupied territory that's not yours.

Get bent Bibi. What a piece of shit.
 
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So are we at a point that any country that says or votes against Israel is a antisemite? It's getting sad that Israel is so hostile nowadays :(
 
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Isn't Israel thought to have some sneaky nukes? I suppose they could just frag the shit out of Auckland and call it a day.

Wouldn't go down well though I would have thought.
 
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ntropy said:
the audacity of New Zealand to moralize Israel considering its treatment of the Maori people is astounding
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One more thing New Zealand has audacity for, is trying to amend his problems with the Maori, that's more than we can say from Israel. And that's pretty sad, we point the other defects but that doesn't solve our own.
 
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ntropy said:
the audacity of New Zealand to moralize Israel considering its treatment of the Maori people is astounding
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The audacity to dismiss a valid criticism of a current event because of a whataboutism is astounding
 
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Thaedolus said:
The audacity to dismiss a valid criticism of a current event because of a whataboutism is astounding
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hypocrisy as whataboutism, amazing

it would be whataboutism if NZ had no role to play in this UN resolution, just to make it clear for you
 
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ntropy said:
hypocrisy as whataboutism, amazing

it would be whataboutism if NZ had no role to play in this UN resolution, just to make it clear for you
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Either way, who gives a shit, this is a deflection. The article rightfully points out that New Zealand isn't alone in their thinking and the Resolution only codifies the already existing international stance.

The article isn't specifically about the stance of New Zealand, but rather the reaction of the Israeli PM.
 
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ntropy said:
hypocrisy as whataboutism, amazing

it would be whataboutism if NZ had no role to play in this UN resolution, just to make it clear for you
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Whataboutism is literally an example of appeal to hypocrisy; a fallacy.

Even if New Zealand is hypocritical here, they're not wrong in their stance.
 
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ntropy said:
hypocrisy as whataboutism, amazing

it would be whataboutism if NZ had no role to play in this UN resolution, just to make it clear for you
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No it wouldn't. every human being on earth, every organization, evert state, has done bad things. You can dismiss every immoral act that ever occurred if we accept your reasoning.

Let me ask you this question. If New Zealand doesn't have the right to criticize Israel, who does?
 
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jrush64 said:
So can someone please just give me like an easy breakdown on this UN vote thing. I don't fully understand it.
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The UN Security Council recently approved a resolution condemning the Israeli practice of building settlements in occupied Palestinian territory. These settlements are controversial because the land is frequently already occupied by Palestinians, who are displaced and their homes bulldozed to make room for the settlements.

The US, Israel's patron, typically vetoes such measures, but this time it abstained from voting (which was a tacit vote "Yes"). Now the Israeli PM has been freaking out and withdrawing ambassadors.
 
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Kin5290 said:
The UN Security Council recently approved a resolution condemning the Israeli practice of building settlements in occupied Palestinian territory. These settlements are controversial because the land is frequently already occupied by Palestinians, who are displaced and their homes bulldozed to make room for the settlements.

The US, Israel's patron, typically vetoes such measures, but this time it abstained from voting (which was a tacit vote "Yes"). Now the Israeli PM has been freaking out and withdrawing ambassadors.
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Lets not forget continuing to build anyway.
 
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Kthulhu said:
UN: stop being a dick to the Palestinians Israel.

Israel: fuck you.
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Kin5290 said:
The UN Security Council recently approved a resolution condemning the Israeli practice of building settlements in occupied Palestinian territory. These settlements are controversial because the land is frequently already occupied by Palestinians, who are displaced and their homes bulldozed to make room for the settlements.

The US, Israel's patron, typically vetoes such measures, but this time it abstained from voting (which was a tacit vote "Yes"). Now the Israeli PM has been freaking out and withdrawing ambassadors.
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Thank you.
 
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