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ToadMan
Member
I'd have been happy with anything that wasn't just the round and round sequence of bizarre names.
They could have even just got to Xbox X and started a roman numeral sequence from there for all it matters to anyone.
And now Prime - if that is really the name for a device - is Wii U levels of stupid. People will assume that is a service, not a piece of hardware.
Anyway, it doesn't really matter anymore now Xbox hardware is where it is.
RetroGamingUK
Member
You’re getting a desktop Windows PC with an Xbox logo on it, that’s all
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Starbuck2907
Member
Every console for the last 20 years has basically been a modded pc running modded Unix or Windows.
Starbuck2907
Member
I think the next Xbox will use heavy AI machine learning and frame generation to keep hardware cheap. It might dual boot Steam.
If it is sub $400 and dual boots Steam, it will be a massive success. If they throw in 6 months of gamepass, even more so. Probably no disc drive.
If it is sub $400 and dual boots Steam, it will be a massive success. If they throw in 6 months of gamepass, even more so. Probably no disc drive.
Goalus
Member
It will cost $1000+ if foreign storefronts are supported.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
They will do one more gen and if the new strategy doesn’t improve things it may be their last
havoc00
Member
Are they still going to do the expensive as hell system for next gen like over 700 bucks? If so im out, I like GP and my digital library but im not gonna pay a premium when I can play xbox games on other consoles. Plus who knows what GP will be like in a few years?
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I think everything is on the table, something for everyone if you will
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
Sub $400 in 2026? HAHAHA. PS5 Pro pretty much just setup a market price for next gen. Once it went $700 and discless, you can bet this is our starting point going forward. Also both XsX and PS5 started at $500, how did you calculate that 6 years later they wuld be releasing for cheaper?
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
Are we just starting the console generation?
Grizzled Ghost
Member
They should call this one The Original Xbox
reinking
Gold Member
I see Steam keeps coming up as an option for the next Xbox console but do console gamers care? Not us multiplatform/console/PC gamers but the casual console only gamers. It will be interesting to see if it works out that way. I'm not sure if most will embrace it or if it will be like when Sony tried to introduce Linux on consoles. How will it work? Will it be limited to controller only games? Mouse/Keyboard needed? What will compatibility be like? Will Xbox customer support deal with issues? While I like the idea, I am not sure it is as simple as adding a Steam client.
Hudo
Gold Member
Would be the best case, tbh. It means you can install SteamOS on it.
ComboBongo
Member
And I think regardless, if the gen is used to establish third party manufacturers then it allows them to dip out anyway while still providing the OS, services and controllers.
Orbital2060
Member
Just call it the X1
And go from there X2, X3 ..
And go from there X2, X3 ..
fallingdove
Member
Seriously doubt it — what you’re describing is the Series S with Steam. And both AI upscaling and frame gen are way too new to be any good.
You’d basically be looking at muddy / laggy games for half the generation as software tried to catch up to the PS5 pro/ PC hardware — and by the time the software was decent, you’d have the PS6 and the next wave of steamdeck-like hardware to contend with.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Makes no sense so I don't believe it.
If it's true,it's suicide for the Xbox division.
If it's true,it's suicide for the Xbox division.
Orbital2060
Member
Its an opportunity to start over, because in reality Xbox now is completely different to when the Series X launched.
A fresh start, with all of the power of the IPs they got now behind it.
edit And they can launch next gen a year +- ahead of the competition.
A fresh start, with all of the power of the IPs they got now behind it.
edit And they can launch next gen a year +- ahead of the competition.
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panda-zebra
Member
So we've gone from the power of the cloud, to the power of TFs to the power of IP?
I'm sure the buying public will keep on lapping it up and give them infinite chances to get it right one day.
SHAKEZ
Member
There's no point for a new console when there are no exclusives anymore, why would people even buy it in the first place?
Starbuck2907
Member
It works for Nintendo,
Starbuck2907
Member
They might be taking the Nintendo approach and not competing with expensive hardware.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
Timed exclusives?
Donald mac Ronald
Member
Prime is a fitting name. Naming their next console after a subscription service.
SHAKEZ
Member
Not good enough, the games they make right now aren't so popular that people can't wait a few more months to get it.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
I mean they're getting better and if they launch with a new Gears, Perfect Dark 2, Halo, Forza Horizon ... people could want that
mayham2199
Member
What's the point when all your IPs go everywhere? So there will be no power in those IPs. Unfortunately MS already got a taste of money and PS has become their most profitable user base and they are going to keep pushing into that space. If things go just as well with Nintendo switch I could see them deciding to bow out of the console space.
SHAKEZ
Member
It'll remain to be seen if those games will actually be any good, judging by their track record...
Guardian Monkey
Member
What I don’t get is why doesn’t MS just release a streamlined PC OS for gaming. Make the splash page ms games and gamepass and other launchers available on other tabs. Launch specific hardware built yearly by 3rd party so they can have cache builds preset but to limit the amount of variability etc. That way it’s focused but still has a bit more of the plug and play of consoles. Wtf do I know though, I’m just some idiot on a gaming forum.
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Hero of Spielberg
Member
I mean, yeah you could say that about any new games. Just hypothesizing what a potential strategy for a new console launch would look like for them.
Haint
Member
I question if it's even possible, modern Windows is a 30+ year old clusterfuck tower built out of duct tape and popscycle sticks. "Streamlining" it would likely break huge portions of compatibility, and fixing it would presumably be an enormous undertaking in cost and engineering manpower.
bitbydeath
Member
There have been rumours of that happening but I have my doubts as they can’t even fix the main Windows OS.
Bonfires Down
Member
What I hope/expect from the next Xbox hardware:
Console style UI built on Windows.
Games from other launchers seamlessly integrated into the UI.
Around $200 more expensive than equivalent specced Sony console. No subsidies.
No online fee.
They will bank on getting sales vs other PC stores by being the default store option and promoting store sales in the UI.
Microsoft only charges a 10% cut on PC so there is incentive for publishers to put their games there if the hardware is successful.
If there is no interest from gamers they will just carry on with their current multiplatform strategy. The new hardware can simply be an option for those who want it, like the Steam Deck and other PC handhelds are.
It is safe to say that another traditional Xbox console would be dead in the water, so it’s either something like this or nothing. And if they can get some portion of their current user base on board with it, why not?
Console style UI built on Windows.
Games from other launchers seamlessly integrated into the UI.
Around $200 more expensive than equivalent specced Sony console. No subsidies.
No online fee.
They will bank on getting sales vs other PC stores by being the default store option and promoting store sales in the UI.
Microsoft only charges a 10% cut on PC so there is incentive for publishers to put their games there if the hardware is successful.
If there is no interest from gamers they will just carry on with their current multiplatform strategy. The new hardware can simply be an option for those who want it, like the Steam Deck and other PC handhelds are.
It is safe to say that another traditional Xbox console would be dead in the water, so it’s either something like this or nothing. And if they can get some portion of their current user base on board with it, why not?
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Exactly and since exclusives disappeared its been getting worse and worse.
AmuroChan
Member
Which I'm sure Microsoft doesn't mind at all.
mayham2199
Member
Integrating steam with their own store will never happen. Sideloading maybe but even then I just don’t see them giving up the 30% for something that won’t bring in more users. Just cost them more revenue.
Also they only charge 12% and devs still skip their store. 2% more isn’t going to help.
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bitbydeath
Member
Didn’t work out for Steam boxes.
If they want success they need to go traditional (no games on anything but there own console, and put a bullet in GamePass) and most definitely work with the studios to deploy better games, with less focus on AA.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
^this but they won't.
Kvally
Member
There are millions of us that have digital game libraries on Xbox that we own. Huge investments. We want to keep carrying those forward. And that is what MS is doing.
Kvally
Member
I say they and PS have two more gens. Then consoles as we know it won’t exist.
bitbydeath
Member
And throw all that money away?
PlayStation is making more money than ever, and that will continue to increase, especially with Xbox dipping out.