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NPD Sales Results for December 2014 [Up2: Nintendo Sales Notes]
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The market for KH is solid. Can't wait for KH3.
Also, 130k for NES rom hacks is amazing to me. Does that include digital?
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
That's amazing for Toad.
So we have Captain Toad, Kingdom Hearts 2.5? and NES Remix Pack/Ultimate (3DS + Wii U)
MastaKilla
Member
So you're saying Sony should create a Kickstarter so they can have a price drop i get it.
ForsakenLotus
Member
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but isn't the general concensus that the Xbox One is approaching 10 mil WW while the PS4 is closing in on 20 mil WW. I know a 2:1 ratio isn't how dominant the PS2 was, but that is still pretty eye opening.
Granted the Xbox One may carry over the holiday momentum, but I find it fascinating how myopic people get in NPD thread (not directed at you).
I mean look at it like this: Microsoft scrambled together a price cut, then some pretty damn good bundles on top of that to win the holiday season. And they killed it, it was a dominant holiday victory. But they bled to win 2 months while Sony was pretty modest and still won the entire year.
So if you step back, it's really eye opening I think. If Sony is able to do a good job marketing The Order 1886 and Bloodborne, they can have some early year success. And Uncharted 4 alone is enough for Sony to compete during the last half of the year, let alone all of the other exclusives and high profile multiplatform games Sony is marketing or associated with.
I guess I'm just getting a kick out of the NPD thread
The Shogun
Banned
Don't be surprised if / when we get Kingdom Hearts HD on Xbone / PS4
...Scatter...
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I think you're right and wrong.
It's business, not a dick waving competition, so as long as they're making bank they're good. But, BUT! They of course have analysts (highly paid) assess the short and long term financial ramifications of each price point and resulting market share estimations. It gets good and complicated factoring in all of the multitudes of revenue sources and the impact of each unit sold but I'm going to have to assume Sony is playing it according to their strategy (good or bad depending on what the CEO needs to make happen relative to internal forecasts and stretch goals).
statham
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$332+15+ misc and that's from over a year ago. I would say right now at $349 they are breaking even or a little positive
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Is this inside information or a prediction?
That is the spirit.
And in general the PS4 and Xone are both doing great. The PS4 especially if you look worldwide. And the Wii U is looking a little less hopeless. Not completely dead like it seemed 6 months ago.
So yeah consoles are still a thing, and this is good news.
Nightengale
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Sony =/= SCEI and MS =/= Xbox Division.
At the end of the day, these business units of larger corporate entities have their own budget and business goals.
Really good for Toad! Glad to see it did so well!
HD Remix = NES Remix 1+2 ?
Ah, that's it. Combined of 3DS and Wii U versions.
Loss (and a pretty big one per console sold) is pretty much a lock given the following.
- both the PS4 and the XB1 were given around $400 in cost of fabrication at launch (isupply I think). The XB1 slightly more expensive if memory serves due to ESRAM and size of the chipset
- the XB1 undersold compared to its production for most of 2014, particularly early in the year and MS themselves said they were doing drawdowns on retail channels and were lowering production. That means no cost saving on size of production.
- By end of 2014 it was pretty much expected that both consoles were making around $50 per unit sold. Cf Sony saying they were profitable per PS4 sold in early/ mid 2014.
- MS not only dropped $50 on the price, returning to 0 profitability per unit, they bundled 2 THIRD PARTY games, which should easily cost around $40-$50 per bundle to MS. Ubisoft isn't in the business of banking MS after all.
Add to that the often available $50 gift card, and you'll see why it's reasonable to think that MS has been losing between $50 and $100 per bundle sold depending on the promotion.
This being said, they can take the loss and their strategy is obviously to expand the userbase, but tbh it's looking a little bit desperate. Specially this sudden return to $349 after two weeks of being outsold in January.
Aquamarine
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why would the shogun be in a position to give inside information related to unannounced releases?
he works at gamestop...
CosmicQueso
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blitzwolf215
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Why? 3DS version has been out for 3 months and managed 2 million, Wii U version has been out for a little over a month and has sold more than half that.
Mikey Jr.
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No, they don't care MS is catching up in NA. NA is just bonus for Sony tbh. MS has too many resources at their disposal to go one on one. Sony almost had to do nothing since the start and they already reached the number they are at in NA. MS on the other hand essentially threw everything and the kitchen sink at the Xbone, and it finally started paying off for the Holidays. Sony is not gonna start doing that.
My prediction sees at the end of the gen, Xbone with probably a 3 million advantage over the PS4 in NA.
I agree that many who already had the consoles bought many of those multiplats in November. Still doesn't mean there weren't a decent number of other people who bought them in December though. Still had people (or parents) getting them in December as Christmas presents for others who already owned the current gen consoles.
Are you that clueless about how this business works? The momentum comes with games sold and license fees from those games sold, which based on December appears to be quite a lot.
Chobel
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How did you come to that 36% for November? Sony didn't release any sold through at that time.
And Sony had promotions everywhere beside the US, MS concentrated mainly in US and UK.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
RespectThySole
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Captain Toad did really well.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
It is a DS game isn't it lol.... Sorry Vita fans =(
I'm not sure that's the case, actually. Maybe. But not necessarily.
The Shogun
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Its not inside information. Its something I believe will happen based on demand from consumers for it, and seeing these sales results for an HD remake on one console on a last gen system.
Consider it an educated guess based on a retail perspective.
Could also assume that $150 lost is better than $500 lost (not sold).
CosmicQueso
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Toad doing that well warms every single part of my being and heart.
Ready for Adventure!!!
No offense... but.... REALLY glad you're disappointed if that's what you were hoping for.
Ready for Adventure!!!
No offense... but.... REALLY glad you're disappointed if that's what you were hoping for.
Omnistalgic
Member
meh...this NPD is boring...
Every1 said X1 probably won again but it slowed down mid-way in December, and Sony did some deals of there own, so gap probably not as wide.
Seems to be exactly what happened here.
No meltdowns = No lol's
Both consoles did great, good for Sony good for MS and eh...whatevs -_-
Was Wiiu strong with Smash sales?
Every1 said X1 probably won again but it slowed down mid-way in December, and Sony did some deals of there own, so gap probably not as wide.
Seems to be exactly what happened here.
No meltdowns = No lol's
Both consoles did great, good for Sony good for MS and eh...whatevs -_-
Was Wiiu strong with Smash sales?
Die Squirrel Die
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It's why I held out on 2.5 HD Remix. As soon as they started dropping hints I was like 'later PS3 version, don't let the door hit you on the way out'.
plasmawave
Banned
Sonset Overdrive.
hipsterpants
Member
I can see it now:
KH 1.5 & 2.5 for XBO/PS4 - $60
DDD HD w/ KH demo thing - $60
KH 1.5 & 2.5 for XBO/PS4 - $60
DDD HD w/ KH demo thing - $60
The Last One
Member
If HD Remix is for the KH II.5 I think it did pretty well!!!!
...Scatter...
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TY sir! I haven't seen this.
CosmicQueso
Member
Can't stop the frozen train man.
So what you're saying is Microsoft can sell the x1 for $250 next November after getting trounced by Sony the other 10 months of the year.
More power to them I hope it's a x1 slim
Mass Effect
Member
Speaking of which, I hope we get updated numbers on this as well.
Much, much better than I expected.
Aquamarine
Member
the haters just need to let it go
The Last One
Member
How much KH I.5 did in it's first month?
Boo.
creamsugar
Member
Megaton!
There is a Wii game sold more than 450k in this month.
There is a Wii game sold more than 450k in this month.