YMMV on this but...
Don't forget for Nintendo this is retail only while every GAFer has been buying the units direct from Nintendo which won't be counted in these numbers as far as we know.
Price really isn't the only deciding factor here. Why do people keep acting like the masses secretly desire the Xbox One but decide settle with PS4 because of pricing?
It's simply not true. The PS4 is the hot product. Consumers aren't settling for the inferior product just because they can save 50 bucks. Not a chance. They want the PS4 because the market decided that it's the console to get.
Microsoft dropping the X1 to 350 right before Destiny will do nothing for them except lose them lots of money. PS4 has all the Destiny mindshare, marketing and the superior version of the game. People aren't stupid.
The price difference is a MAJOR reason for the sales disparity but definitely not the only reason and consumer perception and momentum is also with the PS4.No, but the price difference was the last thing the Xbox One people had left to "justify" the sales difference.
Really believed Microsoft had a chance to win this month just because of the price cut ...i guess i was wrong there
PS4 wont be selling jack **** in Japan till actual games suiting the audience actually hit. FF15 will save the PS4 in Japan.
Can we say Return of the King yet?
Well, on its own perhaps not, but with Sunset Overdrive too (and Forza Horizon 2 although thats on 360 as well) plus the "special offers and fantastic deals" they mentioned in their release yesterday I think it will have a better chance in a period of new releases with exclusives, marketing deals for titles than it would in June when they had nothing to add to the new sku in a month that is traditionally one of the worst in the year for sales...
I would expect those offers to be two games bundled with the system like they've done for years on 360, so that along with the new games are much more likely to have an effect than just the Kinectless Xbox One in June
Microsoft just has to keep the updates and games coming then see what happens and price cut for the fall if they haven't improved.
What must be worrying is even buying exclusives could be hard to come by with the PS4 success so first party or bust and that means waiting a long time for games as they ramp up new studios and game development.
While you've never been wrong about any predication you've ever made?
PS4 is gonna kill Xbox One the next 3 months at minimum. Depending on supply on the Destiny PS4 bundle I can see PS4 breaking 400k in September. Wii U might be Xbox One the next 2 months as well considering the legs Mario Kart games have.
PS4 wont be selling jack **** in Japan till actual games suiting the audience actually hit. FF15 will save the PS4 in Japan.
Wow. No MS PR?
That was yesterday.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=856528
Sure they are - don't let their 'we do our own thing' talk fool ya. Reggie even mentioned how they were in second place in an interview @ e3.
They're refurbs though, so they were already counted.
Unless Nintendo is selling new units as refurbs and this is a clever way to have a fire sale while saving face hehehe...
Will it really sell after what Halo 4 did to the fan base?
140k for Wii U is ok neither good neither bad, it was their most important ip btw.
3DS is goind down fast, last year was like 220k or so.
Curious, Sony said PS4+PS3 outsold XBOne+X360, but did it outsell WiiU+3DS?
Not really a fair comparison, but I am curious. Do they still sell Wiis?
Is it weird if I think the Halo collection will sell ok, but GTAV will be huge? I could totally see that happening.
Mostly to people who already own the console.
Okay so for home consoles, did the Wii U outsell the Xbone?
While you've never been wrong about any predication you've ever made?
60k > 140k
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unless we're operating under a different definition of the word "sales"..
Halo 4 sold 8 or 9 mil, boss. I agree that it won't be a big system seller, but it will move boxes. The hype surrounding it is way more intense than I would have thought when it was initially leaked.
is anyone really suggesting halo MCC will do better than GTA remaster?
Price really isn't the only deciding factor here. Why do people keep acting like the masses secretly desire the Xbox One but decide settle with PS4 because of pricing?
It's simply not true. The PS4 is the hot product. Consumers aren't settling for the inferior product just because they can save 50 bucks. Not a chance. They want the PS4 because the market decided that it's the console to get.
Microsoft dropping the X1 to 350 right before Destiny will do nothing for them except lose them lots of money. PS4 has all the Destiny mindshare, marketing and the superior version of the game. People aren't stupid.
Your predictions are giving Pachter a run for his money, that's the thing...
Okay so for home consoles, did the Wii U outsell the Xbone?
That's the question. The meltdowns could be legendary if that is the case.
I probably should have clarified. I was expecting a bigger splash considering MK8 released to much praise and the narrative post E3 was that WII U is the place to be. Not saying that isn't the case, but the sales certainly don't reflect that.
While you've never been wrong about any predication you've ever made?
US indeed has gotten in bed with Sony again.
I don't why people would think that just because MS is an American company, that it would be automatic for them to lead in sales.
just goes to show that greed, arrogance, and looking down on the consumer as some sort of parasite will haunt you
The price difference is a MAJOR reason for the sales disparity but definitely not the only reason and consumer perception and momentum is also with the PS4.
The vast majority of people knew that this wouldn't mean that XBO outsells PS4 but that its a necessary move to stay competitive. And I guarantee that sales are far closer now than they were in past months.
There's some narrative spun by some people that suggests that all Xbox fans were totally relying on the price drop for it to become market leader again but that's just not true.
Yes. Based on market performance, the PS4 is currently the #1 next-generation console in all major territories. This won't change for a while (if ever).
Yes. Based on market performance, the PS4 is currently the #1 next-generation console in all major territories. This won't change for a while (if ever).
There's an enthusiasm gap between the platforms. MS will need to bridge that before we can even talk about winning a month on NPD.
Yes it must be such a crazy predication to think that one of the most popular and best selling console FPS of all time returning with some of the greatest maps playable across Halo 1, 2, 3 in 60fps and 1080p when most of those games haven't been able to be enjoyed online on xbox in like 15 years might sell really well.
Such a crazy predication.
I think it's too late in 2016.PS4 wont be selling jack **** in Japan till actual games suiting the audience actually hit. FF15 will save the PS4 in Japan.
We already know that Wii U sold less than the XB1
Yes it must be such a crazy predication to think that one of the most popular and best selling console FPS of all time returning with some of the greatest maps playable across Halo 1, 2, 3 in 60fps and 1080p when most of those games haven't been able to be enjoyed online on xbox in like 15 years might sell really well.
Such a crazy predication.
Yes. GTA V just came out last year and sold what like 40 million copies? I doubt there's that many people willing to drop another $60 for an improved version whereas people haven't been able to play Halo 2 maps online for like 10 years, and that games multiplayer is considered one of the best console FPS experience of all time. Couple that with Halo 1 maps being online and Halo 3 maps and you got yourself a winner.
You'll all see soon enough.
Yes it must be such a crazy predication to think that one of the most popular and best selling console FPS of all time returning with some of the greatest maps playable across Halo 1, 2, 3 in 60fps and 1080p when most of those games haven't been able to be enjoyed online on xbox in like 15 years might sell really well.
Such a crazy predication.
We you can't expect a complete turn around over night.
We do? Didn't see any info in the OP about estimates.
Yes it must be such a crazy predication to think that one of the most popular and best selling console FPS of all time returning with some of the greatest maps playable across Halo 1, 2, 3 in 60fps and 1080p when most of those games haven't been able to be enjoyed online on xbox in like 15 years might sell really well.
Such a crazy predication.