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NPD Sales Results for June 2014 [Up3: All Hardware (June/LTD), Top 10 Software SKUs]

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Bgamer90

Banned
rokkerkory said:
To me:

PS4: Great sales
Wii U: Decent to good sales, bonus of better s/w sales
X1: Decent to good sales

= good for industry, hope this trend continues.
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Only thing I can comment on is Wii U since we actually know the sales -- Wii U picked up a whole lot alongside Mario Kart 8. Helped consoles sales much more than I expected.
 
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klee123

Member
hydrophilic attack said:
Of course GAF rushes immediately to unfounded conclusions. We haven't even gotten the full numbers yet, and the consoles haven’t even been out a full year, and yet GAF is still ready to proclaim this generation's winner.

I’m not dismissing raw sales numbers. I’m stating – as I have stated from the beginning – that the sales delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe. There are absolute sales numbers for XBO not fully understood, and there are things about PS4 numbers as well, that bring the two systems into balance.

People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest game developers IN THE WORLD. They CREATED Halo, the standard console FPS that everyone else has been apeing for years. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think MS don’t know how to build a game optimized for maximizing console sales? Seriously? There is no way they're giving up a 30%+ sales advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has been involved in an Online console warz discussion could say there is a sizable number of fans for both systems. If there was really a huge installed base difference – it would be obvious.

I get a ton of hate for saying this – but it’s been the same EVERY generation. Sony fans claim more sales for their system, they did it with the PS3, saying last year it had surpassed the 360 worldwide, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, console sales for Microsoft's system ended up the same or better.

I’m not saying Sony haven’t built a good system – I’m merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ sales advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years…
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Brilliant!
 
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Kiant

Member
hydrophilic attack said:
Of course GAF rushes immediately to unfounded conclusions. We haven't even gotten the full numbers yet, and the consoles haven’t even been out a full year, and yet GAF is still ready to proclaim this generation's winner.

I’m not dismissing raw sales numbers. I’m stating – as I have stated from the beginning – that the sales delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe. There are absolute sales numbers for XBO not fully understood, and there are things about PS4 numbers as well, that bring the two systems into balance.

People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest game developers IN THE WORLD. They CREATED Halo, the standard console FPS that everyone else has been apeing for years. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think MS don’t know how to build a game optimized for maximizing console sales? Seriously? There is no way they're giving up a 30%+ sales advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has been involved in an Online console warz discussion could say there is a sizable number of fans for both systems. If there was really a huge installed base difference – it would be obvious.

I get a ton of hate for saying this – but it’s been the same EVERY generation. Sony fans claim more sales for their system, they did it with the PS3, saying last year it had surpassed the 360 worldwide, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, console sales for Microsoft's system ended up the same or better.

I’m not saying Sony haven’t built a good system – I’m merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ sales advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years…
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borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
SykoTech said:
Wow, really? So...

Wii U - one of the 2 biggest games it's ever going to get : Last
Xbone - $100 price cut month : 2nd Place
PS4 - nothing : 1st

Welp, looks like things are pretty much decided.
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Exactly. This generation is decided and the quoted facts here are why. PS4 releases nothing significant and takes first. Meanwhile MS lobs 20% off their price and Wii U releases one of its generational big guns to huge acclaim and sales, and both are fighting for the back seat. In terms of enjoyment there's still a ton of this generation left to play and have fun with. In terms of sales-age this is pretty much it folks.
 
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ProfessorMoran

Member
hydrophilic attack said:
Of course GAF rushes immediately to unfounded conclusions. We haven't even gotten the full numbers yet, and the consoles haven’t even been out a full year, and yet GAF is still ready to proclaim this generation's winner.

I’m not dismissing raw sales numbers. I’m stating – as I have stated from the beginning – that the sales delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe. There are absolute sales numbers for XBO not fully understood, and there are things about PS4 numbers as well, that bring the two systems into balance.

People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest game developers IN THE WORLD. They CREATED Halo, the standard console FPS that everyone else has been apeing for years. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think MS don’t know how to build a game optimized for maximizing console sales? Seriously? There is no way they're giving up a 30%+ sales advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has been involved in an Online console warz discussion could say there is a sizable number of fans for both systems. If there was really a huge installed base difference – it would be obvious.

I get a ton of hate for saying this – but it’s been the same EVERY generation. Sony fans claim more sales for their system, they did it with the PS3, saying last year it had surpassed the 360 worldwide, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, console sales for Microsoft's system ended up the same or better.

I’m not saying Sony haven’t built a good system – I’m merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ sales advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years…
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Not sure if serious.

MS no longer owns Bungie, and Sony has clearly better hardware this generation. One of the best tech people from 343i joined ND. Bungie's own Destiny is getting a massive push on the PS4. Sure we won't know what's going to happen in the next 10 years but it's hard to dismiss the momentum the PS4 has right now.

What about the sales numbers that are "not understood"? Are you going to elaborate on that or are you just throwing it out there?
 
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BMO = GOAT

Member
hydrophilic attack said:
Of course GAF rushes immediately to unfounded conclusions. We haven't even gotten the full numbers yet, and the consoles haven’t even been out a full year, and yet GAF is still ready to proclaim this generation's winner.

I’m not dismissing raw sales numbers. I’m stating – as I have stated from the beginning – that the sales delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe. There are absolute sales numbers for XBO not fully understood, and there are things about PS4 numbers as well, that bring the two systems into balance.

People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest game developers IN THE WORLD. They CREATED Halo, the standard console FPS that everyone else has been apeing for years. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think MS don’t know how to build a game optimized for maximizing console sales? Seriously? There is no way they're giving up a 30%+ sales advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has been involved in an Online console warz discussion could say there is a sizable number of fans for both systems. If there was really a huge installed base difference – it would be obvious.

I get a ton of hate for saying this – but it’s been the same EVERY generation. Sony fans claim more sales for their system, they did it with the PS3, saying last year it had surpassed the 360 worldwide, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, console sales for Microsoft's system ended up the same or better.

I’m not saying Sony haven’t built a good system – I’m merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ sales advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years…
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This, plus your tag, holy damnn, hahaha. #dead
 
L

Lefein

Banned
Principate said:
For people that don't realise this guy is mocking an Albert Penello post. And it's damn good.
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I was gonna say.. Anyone who thinks it will be an uphill battle when FFXV, GT7, UC4, Singstar (big in Europe, I promise), Bloodborne, and Gods only know what else that we don't know about yet or I am forgetting right now drops on shelves is off their rocker.
 
rokkerkory

rokkerkory

Member
Bgamer90 said:
Only thing I can comment on is Wii U since we actually know the sales -- Wii U picked up a whole lot alongside Mario Kart 8. Helped consoles sales much more than I expected.
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We can do a pretty good estimation based on Wii U numbers and other PR.

Really happy Wii U is getting a big shot in the arm.
 
C

C4Lukins

Junior Member
RexNovis said:
Umm it's remake dude. Remakes don't have "huge budgets" by virtue of being remakes. The games were already they are being ported to a new platform. That process doesn't exactly break the bank. But keep on keeping on man. I'm sure it will work out for you at some point.
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You should read up a bit more on the game. And stop Being a smart ass. That only works if you are knowledgable on the topic being discussed. This is not an HD compilation of Silent Hill. A ton of work has been put into this. Read up on it, you would be impressed how crazy they went with this.
 
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Pristine_Condition

Member
hydrophilic attack said:
Of course GAF rushes immediately to unfounded conclusions. We haven't even gotten the full numbers yet, and the consoles haven’t even been out a full year, and yet GAF is still ready to proclaim this generation's winner.

I’m not dismissing raw sales numbers. I’m stating – as I have stated from the beginning – that the sales delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe. There are absolute sales numbers for XBO not fully understood, and there are things about PS4 numbers as well, that bring the two systems into balance.

People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest game developers IN THE WORLD. They CREATED Halo, the standard console FPS that everyone else has been apeing for years. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think MS don’t know how to build a game optimized for maximizing console sales? Seriously? There is no way they're giving up a 30%+ sales advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has been involved in an Online console warz discussion could say there is a sizable number of fans for both systems. If there was really a huge installed base difference – it would be obvious.

I get a ton of hate for saying this – but it’s been the same EVERY generation. Sony fans claim more sales for their system, they did it with the PS3, saying last year it had surpassed the 360 worldwide, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, console sales for Microsoft's system ended up the same or better.

I’m not saying Sony haven’t built a good system – I’m merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ sales advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years…
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This post is a modern art masterpiece. Congrats, and thanks.
 
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Hyun Sai

Member
hydrophilic attack said:
Of course GAF rushes immediately to unfounded conclusions. We haven't even gotten the full numbers yet, and the consoles haven’t even been out a full year, and yet GAF is still ready to proclaim this generation's winner.

I’m not dismissing raw sales numbers. I’m stating – as I have stated from the beginning – that the sales delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe. There are absolute sales numbers for XBO not fully understood, and there are things about PS4 numbers as well, that bring the two systems into balance.

People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest game developers IN THE WORLD. They CREATED Halo, the standard console FPS that everyone else has been apeing for years. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think MS don’t know how to build a game optimized for maximizing console sales? Seriously? There is no way they're giving up a 30%+ sales advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has been involved in an Online console warz discussion could say there is a sizable number of fans for both systems. If there was really a huge installed base difference – it would be obvious.

I get a ton of hate for saying this – but it’s been the same EVERY generation. Sony fans claim more sales for their system, they did it with the PS3, saying last year it had surpassed the 360 worldwide, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, console sales for Microsoft's system ended up the same or better.

I’m not saying Sony haven’t built a good system – I’m merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ sales advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years…
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Ok, I got fooled for a second here, well done.
 
R

reKon

Banned
ProfessorMoran said:
Not sure if serious.

MS no longer owns Bungie, and Sony has clearly better hardware this generation. One of the best tech people from 343i joined ND. Bungie's own Destiny is getting a massive push on the PS4.

What about the sales numbers that are "not understood"? Are you going to elaborate on that or are you just throwing it out there?
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It's OK bro. I didn't get the original reference when I first saw something like this too.
 
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SykoTech

Member
Wait, do we even know if Xbone beat the Wii U for sure? I thought so, but it seems their doubled claim from yesterday might not be entirely true.

Might have to revise that post.
 
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B.O.O.M

Member
WiiU HW numbers are ok considering the situation it was in.

Come on cream drop some info sugar on us. It's getting a bit boring without new info
 
F

Frillen

Member
ProfessorMoran said:
Not sure if serious.

MS no longer owns Bungie, and Sony has clearly better hardware this generation. One of the best tech people from 343i joined ND. Bungie's own Destiny is getting a massive push on the PS4.

What about the sales numbers that are "not understood"? Are you going to elaborate on that or are you just throwing it out there?
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Lol, it just became better.
 
Z

Zen

Banned
hydrophilic attack said:
Of course GAF rushes immediately to unfounded conclusions. We haven't even gotten the full numbers yet, and the consoles haven’t even been out a full year, and yet GAF is still ready to proclaim this generation's winner.

I’m not dismissing raw sales numbers. I’m stating – as I have stated from the beginning – that the sales delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe. There are absolute sales numbers for XBO not fully understood, and there are things about PS4 numbers as well, that bring the two systems into balance.

People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest game developers IN THE WORLD. They CREATED Halo, the standard console FPS that everyone else has been apeing for years. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think MS don’t know how to build a game optimized for maximizing console sales? Seriously? There is no way they're giving up a 30%+ sales advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has been involved in an Online console warz discussion could say there is a sizable number of fans for both systems. If there was really a huge installed base difference – it would be obvious.

I get a ton of hate for saying this – but it’s been the same EVERY generation. Sony fans claim more sales for their system, they did it with the PS3, saying last year it had surpassed the 360 worldwide, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, console sales for Microsoft's system ended up the same or better.

I’m not saying Sony haven’t built a good system – I’m merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ sales advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years…
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Uh, you do realize that even PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide right?

EDIT: DAMMIT I FELL FOR IT!
 
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gundamkyoukai

Member
noobasuar said:
The game just came out like a year ago and it was perfectly playable on PS3. The Tomb Raider remaster that came out moved like 150k units in its first NPD and that game sold just like 2 million less than TLOU.

I think people are greatly exaggerating the demand for TLOU.
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Tomb Raider was also a multiplatform game and had a good PC version .
Somethings TLOU did not have which could make a difference .
 
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RexNovis

Banned
Vast. said:
No doubt Sunset Overdrive is their other big game for the fall. But no, a new IP from Insomniac isn't going to be able to compete with every single mainline Halo game and a 100 maps for $60. It's the series that defines Xbox. It's not a slight to SO, no PS4 or WiiU first party game will compete either (this year).
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If you think MCC is gonna outsell Destiny on PS4 you are batshit crazy. Not gonan happen. The preorder numbers alone are proof of that. Hell the collector's editions are selling out like mad. Then take a look at the Destiny GAF PSN numbers. There is no way man. No way.

edit: nvm I see you edited in "first party"
 
J

jhmtehgamr20xx

Banned
hydrophilic attack said:
Sony fans claim more sales for their system, they did it with the PS3, saying last year it had surpassed the 360 worldwide, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, console sales for Microsoft's system ended up the same or better.
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So 25 million equals 155 million? Whodathunkit, every mathematician in history was wrong.

I'm not a Sony fan btw; just someone living in the real world.

Zen said:
EDIT: DAMMIT I FELL FOR IT!
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Wait it's a joke post? Can't tell sometimes, emotions are riding high for lots of folks here tonight.
 
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bebop242

Member
C4Lukins said:
You should read up a bit more on the game. And stop Being a smart ass. That only works if you are knowledgable on the topic being discussed. This is not an HD compilation of Silent Hill. A ton of work has been put into this. Read up on it, you would be impressed how crazy they went with this.
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The question is what will the general consumer think? Will he think "oh just another hd collection" or "this thing is reworked and rebuilt and totally awesome"?

I guess that's a job for marketing.
 
joecanada

joecanada

Member
RexNovis said:
If you think MCC is gonna outsell Destiny on PS4 you are batshit crazy. Not gonan happen. The preorder numbers alone are proof of that. Hell the collector's editions are selling out like mad. Then take a look at the Destiny GAF PSN numbers. There is no way man. No way.
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I agree in fact I think mcc will move some hardware but I don't believe people on the fence will rush out and buy a console for a remake... Similarly I think alot of people will pick up tlou but only because they were buying a ps4 anyway...
Releasing mcc beside destiny is a bad idea... Anyone predict destiny xbox will outsell mcc?
 
D

Donos

Member
The Abominable Snowman said:
The PS4 is this generation's Xbox 360, and the Xbox One is this generations' PS3. That's how I look at it. In the beginning the Negativity held the PS3 down for the first two years, if not more. I don't think you'll miss out on this generation with either console.

Eventually the PS3 won the hearts of the NeoGAF collective after being absolutely demonized for the first two years, far worse than the Xbox One.

We will simply have to give it time and play it by ear.
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You can't just assign this to XB360 and PS3 because the PS3 still had a strong footing in Europe while beeing behind in NA.

XB1 has no chance in Europe at all. So even if XB1 is close to PS4 in NA with decent sales, the global sales gap will widen more and more.
 
Square2015

Square2015

Member
Alright look at what we were buying thirteen years ago this month...
this was the month the GBA launched...

*JUNE 2001*
TOP30

Code: 
1	GBA	Super Mario Advance	 	$29 	Nintendo	379,117	NEW
2	PS2	Twisted Metal: Black	 	$51 	Sony		172,588	NEW
3	GBA	Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2	$42 	Activision	160,673	NEW
4	PS2	NBA Street	 		$52 	EA		151,162	NEW
5	GBA	Castlevania: Circle of The Moon	$40 	Konami		115,745	NEW
6	DC	Sonic Adventure 2	 	$41 	Sega		114,853	NEW
7	GBA	F-ZERO: Maximum Velocity	$29 	Nintendo	110,304	NEW
8	N64	Mario Party 3	 		$50 	Nintendo	106,525	/ 262,260
9	PS2	Dark Cloud	 		$50 	Sony		94,223	/ 141,921
10	PS2	Red Faction	 		$51 	THQ		83,867	/ 173,689
11	GBA	Rayman Advance	 		$39 	Ubisoft		74,246	NEW
12	GBA	Namco Museum	 		$30 	Namco		68,608	NEW
13	PSX	Gran Turismo 2	 		$20 	Sony		63,879	/ 2,304,318
14	PSX	Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX	 	$40 	Activision	58,855	/ 623,945
15	PSX	Final Fantasy Chronicles  	$42 	Square EA	54,540	New
16	GBA	GT Advance Championship Racing	$39 	THQ		53,547	NEW
17	N64	Pokemon Stadium 2	 	$60 	Nintendo	53,399	/ 680,420
18	PSX	Spec Ops: Ranger Elite	 	$10 	Take-Two	51,350	/ 100,024
19	PSX	Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation$10 	Eidos		48,366	/ 852,889
20	PS2	Crazy Taxi	 		$50 	Acclaim		45,503	/ 99,706
21	N64	Super Smash Bros.	 	$40 	Nintendo	44,804	/ 2,170,942
22	PSX	ATV Quad: Power Racing	 	$20 	Acclaim		44,308	/ 265,699
23	PS2	ATV Offroad Fury	 	$50 	Sony		44,185	/ 279,157
24	PS2	Tokyo Xtreme Racer: Zero	$51 	Crave		42,679	/ 51,399
25	PSX	MLB 2002	 		$40 	Sony		42,501	/ 68,184
26	PS2	Midnight Club: Street Racing	$50 	Rockstar	42,191	/ 300,944
27	PS2	Madden NFL 2001	 		$50 	EA		42,060	/ 890,040
28	DC	Crazy Taxi 2	 		$40 	Sega		41,549	/ 57,843
29	GBA	Iridion 3-D	 		$40 	Majesco		39,097	NEW
30	PS2	Tekken Tag Tournament	 	$50 	Namco		38,576	/ 454,632
Any more June chart requests? I have charts back to the NES days (mind you the further back the accuracy has yet to be attested).
 
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