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[ProvenDeadly]

The tiny install base isn't helping matters.

*Tiny

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

NPD: fuck that, we steal everyone else's jokes

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lol that works

 

[wapplew]

FH2 not charting shouldn't be worrying sign. Racers are bigger in Europe and have longer legs.
MS can always free bundle FH2 at country that count.

 

[CosmicQueso]

I wonder what the ASP is for Destiny on the Xbox One?

Not significantly different. Non-factor.

 

[Majmun]

So no one bought Destiny digital on the One?

Not saying that. But the game seems to be a huge success on PSN. Going by Sony's PR

I'm sure the game is big on the X1 as well. But PS4 has a bigger userbase...

 

[sam777]

Well damn, I knew Forza wasn't a sales giant but not even 500k?

It's not the mainline Forza game could be a reason.

 

[A_Gorilla]

MS' silence is disconcerting...

 

[statham]

Destiny huh?, well a win is a win, I'll take it.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

they're slowly starting this year with tearaway and lbp3. tearaway should get decent exposure since the only other version is on a dead system, but lbp3 is a ps3 game too and i doubt will sway people to the platform.

Destiny was a PS3 game too.

 

[Trigonometrize.]

Those reviews didn't do shit

Of course not.

 

[CypherSignal]

Retail is down, though much of that is likely due to the digital boom.

Or the fact that GTA V released last September. I mean, Destiny and FIFA are big, but...you know, GTA V.

 

[juicyfruitas]

But are digital sales not counted, as well as bundle sales in the NPD?

Yep, NPD does not count digital sales or physical copies bundled with hardware

 

[FeiRR]

Now, let's hear the worldwide sales to put that golem to sleep for good.

 

[joecanada]

First month on psn where u could preload all games. Already having massive increase in psn sales.

I'm just gonna say that I'm now buying all multiplayer games digital and still sharing sp games with a buddy of mine... Wonder how many others follow this theme?

 

[Queen of Hunting]

Worldwide, but it doesn't matter if your talking bombing.

hyrule is at like 500k world wide and thats inline with recent mainline warrior series sales (which are on more than one console)

 

[Flo_Evans]

Guys sorry I bought destiny on the PS store.

 

[Boke1879]

For the people that had a PS4 and XB1 already, it sold more on XB1. The rest is assumptions.

Even that's an assumption actually.

Don't forget the XB1 free game promotion though. If you bought an XB1 during launch week you could get Destiny for free which would be included in the standalone sales. While the PS4 bundle wouldn't.

 

[Chobel]

Did you actually read my post? I specifically said mine was also an assumption.

His was a educated assumption which is likely to happen, yours not so much.

 

[BeforeU]

Destiny huh?, well a win is a win, I'll take it.

 

[IAmRandom31]

Guys sorry I bought destiny on the PS store.

lol same here

NPD should track digital sales

 

[orthodoxy1095]

What exactly are our Worldwide hardware totals looking like now?

 

[prwxv3]

Forza horizon 1 sold less then mainline games not surprised the sequel performed similarly.

 

[JABEE]

Just around 570K is pretty crazy for the PS4. People love those boxes and the $10 Discount on Destiny.

I wonder how many Xbox Ones were sold.

 

[Floridian]

I'm sorry Pachter.

 

[Rymuth]

Yep, you can almost hear a pin number drop.

All is quiet on the Redmond front?

 

[QaaQer]

Overall software down again.

gtaV > destiny

 

[Cow Goes Moo]

FH2 not charting shouldn't be worrying sign. Racers are bigger in Europe and have longer legs.
MS can always free bundle FH2 at country that count.

on the other hand, the xbox one install base isn't particularly big in EU

but i suppose it being on 360 too helps

 

[jelly]

I blame Forza Horizon 2 not charting due to its stupid commercials that showed no gameplay at all.

And terrible music choice.

It was a very poor advert.

Cockpit view through the fields and trees, 3rd person fun racing overload, job done.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

RIP in pieces Patcher

He's got more lives than a cat. I'm sure he'll live to speak another day. And on that day, he'll probably be wrong.

 

[TechnicPuppet]

His was a educated assumption which is likely to happen, yours not so much.

OK that's cool just to completely ignore what I actually wrote then.

 

[Sweep14]

There goes Sony's wasted money on the useless Destiny Content... 'sigh'

XB1>PS4 Destiny

Nope...but I'll let you find why ;-)

 

[BMO = GOAT]

Guys sorry I bought destiny on the PS store.

same

 

[lightning2k3]

they're slowly starting this year with tearaway and lbp3. tearaway should get decent exposure since the only other version is on a dead system, but lbp3 is a ps3 game too and i doubt will sway people to the platform.

But vita means life???

 

[Pennywise]

I'm pretty curious about october/november and/or february next year.

Hardware sales are pretty much going through the roof, while software still decilined.
One of the factors might be variety here.So I'm really looking forward how software sales will look within the next months, as there are more genres/diversity coming out than september obviously.
Plus the bigger number of actual releases.

 

[Skeff]

If sales tripled month-over-month, and Destiny stand-alone sold less on ps4, then they must have moved an absolute shitton of those bundles lol.

Going from Amazon monthly rankings and Abdiels Best buy reports, the Destiny bundle sold a little better than the regular SKU, but of course we don't know how wide that assumption holds true.

 

[sam777]

Those reviews didn't do shit

Because reviews came out a few days or a week depending on the outlet after Destiny was released.

 

[Vespene]

The real test will be how COD sells between platforms this November.

 

[Doodis]

I blame Forza Horizon 2 not charting due to its stupid commercials that showed no gameplay at all.

And terrible music choice.

I blame Destiny.

At least for me personally. I'm a huge Forza fan but didn't bother buying FH2 yet because I'm still going full steam with Destiny. I'll get there eventually, but for now, Destiny trumps all others.

 

[Mpl90]

Jeff Grub: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134660683&postcount=371

Thanks!

Now, time for requests! Whoever of you holy insiders who want to chime in, please. I'd love if we could get updated LTDs for

- Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (4G just released in Japan, why not get some news on US numbers? )
- Bravely Default
- Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
- Tomodachi Life (it seems quite successful in Europe, but it's been two months since the last update on US numbers)

 

[JawzPause]

This is a sad day for America.

I watched the TGS streams, I know what Playstation is all about. All of you Playstation lovers with your loli obsession and your anime avatars, if you love Japan so much, why don't you just move there? It saddens me that Americans would choose to associate with that rather than the sturdy, rugged, masculine, patriotic The One. Yet, throughout these sad times that we live in, I have still kept alive a lingering flame of hope that the great American values will endure, and Pacther’s predictions this week helped kindle that flame. But if these news are true, I may have to finally abandon that hope.

If these news are true, that is. Anyone else think it’s suspicious how NPD starts hiding console numbers, so that we are left at the mercy of the console manufacturers to provide us with what information they will, and suddenly Playstation starts doing better than Xbox? No one else finds it suspicious how the well-informed and knowledgeable video games analyst Pachter, who usually makes predictions with great accuracy, after consulting his vast retail contact network, predicts that The One will come out ahead, yet when we get “official” numbers, suddenly PS4 has sold more? It’s not like this is the first time that Sony is caught with juking the stats. Esteemed video games sales expert ioi recently revealed how Sony was lying at Gamescom with their 10 million consoles sold number. You may think Sony wouldn’t go that far, but they have lied to us before. They lied to us about the Driveclub PS Plus version and they lied to us about the power of their systems. One lie leads to another and once you have gotten into the habit of lying, it is very hard to stop.

But I guess this is to be expected. People who want to harm America always have a propensity to believe in made-up numbers. Look at how North Korean citizens swallow lies from their own leaders. Or closer to home, look at how liberals are gulping down the Obama administration’s lies. Look at how they are cooking the books on Obamacare and job reports. 250000 new jobs added in September? Hah, where I live, in real rural America, most people have given up looking. 250000 new jobs, my ass. Plus, under President Romney, we would have had at least 400000 new jobs. Or look at how they lie about inflation as an excuse to print money, debasing the dollar further. President Reagan (may he rest in peace) is turning in his grave. Inflation below target? Tell that to my local grocery store and gas station! These Washington types, always coming at you with their fancy numbers and their facts and their smug grins, thinking they know better than you. (And don't get me started on those IRS bullies. Federal income tax is theft and, even worse, unconstitutional, and I'm not paying to help finance a government I never voted for. So they can take their tax return forms and their court summons and shove them up somewhere. Don't bother coming back here!) And throughout all this, the mainstream media keeps cheering the administration on, helping them pull the wool over Americans’ eyes. This is very similar to the gaming media, incidentally, with their strong Sony bias. Kotaku is far too close to Sony. Always has been.

Maybe it’s time we started unskewing the NPD results. Even though they started shilling for Sony only relatively recently, I have always felt that their numbers are suspect. They don’t track sales from online stores, where more and more customers are taking their business these days. Also, it is well-known that they don’t take digital download sales into account. Who knows how many console sales they miss that way?
 
Still, I am always the optimist. I have hopes for the future. It looks like people are finally starting to see through the Democrats’ lies. If polls are to be believed, we will put a patriotic majority back in the Senate in November. If it can happen there, we can get the powers for good back into power in the video game business at the same time, with the arrival of Halo: The Master Chief Collection and, most importantly, the monthly OS updates. Until then, God bless you all, and don’t forget to vote in November!

Actually laughed out loud, thanks for that

 

[N.Domixis]

Don't forget the XB1 free game promotion though. If you bought an XB1 during launch week you could get Destiny for free which would be included in the standalone sales. While the PS4 bundle wouldn't.

MS moneyhatting NPD confirmed!?

 

[BokehKing]

Guys sorry I bought destiny on the PS store.

You and everyone else lol, they only been advertising the pre-load feature for destiny for like... Well since the beginning.

 

[Hockeymac18]

It's not the mainline Forza game could be a reason.

It also was only out for a week in the tracking period. And I have a feeling a lot of people bought it digitally (same sense I get with Driveclub).

That being said, there are other factors too, such as the one what you're hitting on (it not being a mainline Forza game, and racers being bigger in Europe, etc.).

We do know over 450k/nearly 500k people have at least played it (well, played it enough to pass the first speed trap). I think the game is doing ok, considering its userbase.

 

[Xando]

I'd be interested in seeing digital numbers on PSN. Destiny seems to have broken every record on digital sales.



Also i'd like to welcome all americans to the one and only sport.

 

[AniHawk]

Destiny was a PS3 game too.

destiny was also on a platform with a pretty heavy lean towards the fanbase it was being advertised to already. lbp3 won't lead any sort of charge. sony is going to have to work harder to build the fanbase than just having a game or two out. it's like expecting bayonetta 2 to sell really well just because pikmin 3 did well as a sequel to a lost franchise.

 

[Tutomos]

It's not the mainline Forza game could be a reason.

I thought people like open racing more than corridor racing.

GTA V is going to carry PS4 this holiday season over the competition.

 

[Welfare]

It's only been 30 minutes?!

I need PR MS

 

[JaggedSac]

Well damn, I knew Forza wasn't a sales giant but not even 500k?

Leader board has 460,000 people, so it got kind of close.

 

[NullPointer]

This is a sad day for America.

 

[Mooreberg]

Yeah the speed at which GTA V sold cannot be overstated. Nothing is going to match it anytime soon.