Support NeoGAF

[LordOfChaos]

PassMark sees the first yearly drop in average CPU performance in its 20 years of benchmark results

After the MHz and multi-core wars, performance drops.

www.tomshardware.com

Both laptops and desktops saw the first drop in average performance in its whole history of keeping benchmarks, which is 20 years

 

[Magic Carpet]

Intel 13th and 14th gen CPU's going up in a puff of smoke?

 

[mdkirby]

Is this because all the good chips are being bought up by ai companies

 

[willothedog]

Passmark

 

[twilo99]

I dunno I’m really liking what the new Strix Halo chip is showing thus far




Also let’s not forget what Apple has been able to achieve with their ARM chips..

 

[tmlDan]

Intel 13th and 14th gen CPU's going up in a puff of smoke?

they're fixed now tho, shouldnt they be going up by the end of the year according to you?

 

[LordOfChaos]

I dunno I’m really liking what the new Strix Halo chip is showing thus far

Nothing to not know really - it's a statement of fact, and doesn't dismiss impressive chips coming out

Intel pushed the laptop performance too hard on 12th and 13th gen, E cores being pushed way faster than they were designed for sweet spot wise just to match AMD multicore, and the products were hot and loud because of it. They dialed MT and ST back a bit for Meteor Lake in exchange for big improvements in performance per watt, which was the right idea. Lunar Lake continues going at the X Elite and ARM threat, more PPW, less focus on just performance. It makes sense. Not as sure about the desktop dip.

 

[Magic Carpet]

they're fixed now tho, shouldnt they be going up by the end of the year according to you?

Didn't they 'fix' them by hamstringing them?

 

[tmlDan]

Didn't they 'fix' them by hamstringing them?

I have no clue, im just going off what they said and my friends experiences. I don't have one but am in the market for them since they're really reduced in price.

You could be right.

 

[Nvzman]

Didn't they 'fix' them by hamstringing them?

Not really, they just tightened the voltages which slightly limits OC potential.

My 13700k has been going strong for over two years now without a single crash. Has been an excellent CPU and I've been sure to update to the newest BIOs.

 

[Astray]

PassMark sees the first yearly drop in average CPU performance in its 20 years of benchmark results

After the MHz and multi-core wars, performance drops.

www.tomshardware.com

Both laptops and desktops saw the first drop in average performance in its whole history of keeping benchmarks, which is 20 years

This means that the massive pricing inflation has started hitting PC players and pros who use these CPUs, and people are thus upgrading less frequently.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Not really, they just tightened the voltages which slightly limits OC potential.

My 13700k has been going strong for over two years now without a single crash. Has been an excellent CPU and I've been sure to update to the newest BIOs.

Yea I've got a 13700F and had a Bios update and could not tell a difference in performance.

 

[Nvzman]

I dunno I’m really liking what the new Strix Halo chip is showing thus far




Also let’s not forget what Apple has been able to achieve with their ARM chips..

Strix Halo imo is good but ultimately not worth the price hike over Phoenix/dragon range CPUs. It's only a bit faster while having like a $400+ price increase for most laptops/handheld PCs.

Imo the most impressive mobile chip ATM for x86 is Lunar Lake. I have one of the 258v laptops and it's actually batshit crazy how good the battery is and the perf/watt. I paid $800 for the Asus Vivobook with the core 7 and 32GB and it's been absolutely killer value. Yes it's not a benchmark/multi thread king but that's what my gaming desktop is for. For a travel laptop, it's literally all I've ever wanted. Nearly 15h+ battery, doesn't get hot at all, can play a lot of games at 1080p (and has Xe cores for XeSS), CPU is more than fast enough to get work done, and has a ton of RAM. The lunar lake stuff legitimately kills any reason to buy Snapdragon for Windows.

 

[winjer]

Maybe Windows and all it's extra spyware and bloatware.

 

[twilo99]

Imo the most impressive mobile chip ATM for x86 is Lunar Lake.

I agree, at least on the x86 side, Apple rules in the ARM space.

I still can't find a passively cooled Lunar Lake machine that can compete with an Air M3 (m4 about to ship too).

Either way, this AMD thing is fun... I'm liking the GPU performance down at 35W too

 

[Fake]

Wasn't Windows 11 the big factor here?

Microsoft most of the time release a patch after patch that fuck up the CPU performance.

 

[David Ricardo]

something weird I found, is cheap current gen ryzen 5 portable processors (7520u) are weaker than ryzen 5 from 3 years ago (5500u)

 

[Digital-Aftertaste]

Passmark

Please tell me what u use cuz idk what benchmark site is better

 

[lmimmfn]

So the dip in the graph is from 6 weeks into 2025 and is Intel? A chart that is "Year on Year analysis" but the latest "Year" is based on 8% of the year

Junk data = junk graphs = junk analysis