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Phil Spencer: We're not going to put walls up on our games

Alan Wake

Member
He looks old and tired. But he's obviously lost some weight, which can make people look older when you're used to seeing them with a few more kilos around the belly.

About what he's saying, I don't think he's making an argument for people to buy the next Xbox. At all. And "playing on Xbox" is from now on playing a game from Xbox Studios on any platform. Allrighty then.
 

Alan Wake

Member
Whatever route they go down, saturating the market with multiple Xbox SKUs is not the way. They should choose one machine and price it cheap. Whether that’s a handheld or a home console. They shouldn’t be going for the PS6 power bracket but it shouldn’t be as nerfed as a Series S either.
What's the target audience for that kind of console? The only people interesting in buying an Xbox from now on, when basically every Xbox Studios game can be played on other platforms that also have their own exclusives, are brand loyalists. And they don't want cheap hardware. You could squeeze a lot of dollars out of this audience. I expect a 1000 USD console.
 
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Cakeboxer

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What's the target audience for that kind of console? The only people interesting in buying an Xbox from now on, when basically every Xbox Studios game can be played on other platforms that also have their own exclusives, are brand loyalists. And they don't want cheap hardware. You could squeeze a lot of dollars out of this audience. I expect a 1000 USD console.
That's what i expect too: One final Xbox for the ultra fanboys and it will be high end and pricey. What plans they might have with a handheld, i don't know but i don't think it'll work.
 
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Astray

Member
Whatever route they go down, saturating the market with multiple Xbox SKUs is not the way. They should choose one machine and price it cheap. Whether that’s a handheld or a home console. They shouldn’t be going for the PS6 power bracket but it shouldn’t be as nerfed as a Series S either.
You're thinking too deeply about this when they are not.

They're going to sell Xbox OS OEM keys to various manufacturers and let them sort it out. Just like they're been doing with Windows.

This makes the Xbox brand and product range completely aligned with Microsoft's larger direction (software and services)
 

GigaBowser

The bear of bad news
switch 2 is the big winner because nooooww they have the biggest publisher in the world my friends AAA market on Switch thank you
 

SHA

Member
No matter how I feel about his professional image, I genuinely worry for the guy. He’s getting worse visually with every public appearance.
Many people don't understand it's genetics and get screwed with these decisions, if your body is 200, 150 or 300 that doesn't mean you could eat whatever you want or lose weight like the way you've been told.

Genetics plays a big role when it comes to aging, living from 80 to 130 years is all written in your genetics, you just need to take care about what you eat without compromising your bodys function, it needs to function %100 and that's what matters.
 

Fess

Member
Wish he would just come out and say "we are primarily a third party publisher now".

Awkward John Krasinski GIF by Saturday Night Live
Is it even needed? He basically said it. They’ll keep doing hardware (could barely answer why, was it for more power or innovation idk) but their games will be everywhere now. They’re basically Activision Blizzard with an experimental hardware team now trying stuff for the future for whatever reason.

I’m surprised they haven’t announced Avowed for PS5 yet considering what he says here. But maybe they’ll do that closer to the release. I expect it on Switch 2. Expect every MS 1st party game on every device, if not day 1 then as soon as a port can be finalized.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I think their best bet would be a 99 Euro Oled xCloud only handheld.

That wouldn't be the best idea.

Having just a streaming handheld means you're limited to using it only in places that have a good Internet connection.

The great thing about the Steamdeck and Switch is I can play them anywhere without an Internet connection. On a train, plane, in the car etc.
 

Cakeboxer

Member
That wouldn't be the best idea.

Having just a streaming handheld means you're limited to using it only in places that have a good Internet connection.

The great thing about the Steamdeck and Switch is I can play them anywhere without an Internet connection. On a train, plane, in the car etc.
Sure, but the price would be more attractive than hundreds of Euros for a native handheld. Also many people got w-Lan access most of the day and for the rest it could have an 5g option. A~400 Euro handheld would have too much competition and is not for casuals.
 

Neofire

Member

Starting at 8:15

Yup and that is the Xbox brand will be gone in the next few years. It will be called Microsoft game studios.

People see through the bs Microsoft is doing though, like I stated before, they are trying to disrupt the industry by saying we don't need exclusives on a platform or even physical games. "Just subscribe to game pass" hoping if they cause enough disruption Sony and then Nintendo will do away with exclusives(the very thing that defines their platform)and just release everything on PC.

There was a time I thought competition from having Microsoft in the video industry was good but over the past decade they are beginning to turn into a crab trying to pull Sony and Nintendo down into obscurity of just being a 3rd party publisher. Leaving the industry with almost no choices or at the
 
It's sad that people seem to lack the necessary discipline to just eat less (and well) while also exercising more.
That's a krass oversimplification of what's going on in the bodies of human beings. It's also not as easy as "have some more discipline". I train boxing three times a week, and it's not uncommon to have guys in the gym who fight with obesity. Some have a fat liver, to give an example. Discipline is a limited resource, and when that's depleted for the day, guess what people do in the evening when they see the fridge. It's also not one size fits all, as genetic variety across individuals accounts for a lot of the inconsistencies observed in studies applying certain dietary strategies to a large pool of participants. Science is nowhere near understanding any of this to the extend we'd like it to.
 
Starting to see things like Ninja Gaiden 4 be multiplatform right away, alongside Doom.

Indiana and Fable may be the last two with a window of exclusivity, since both of those were too late in development to get them on other platforms right away(Gears maybe the same) from what I've seen said by S SneakersSO

Still maintain that the perception of Xbox being third party primarily won't sink in for a majority until Halo, Gears, Fable or Forza hit the other consoles. It'd be similar to Sega back in the day with Sonic, etc.
 
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Dude has lost some weight and is looking great. Really telling of the people ragging on his looks in this forum. Probably have to ride the scooter to get around at Walmart.

Excited for this year of Xbox though. The games coming look amazing.
 
That is being done with Matt Booty and Sarah Bond already, replacing him as head of Microsoft Gaming and her as the head of Xbox.



Satya made 80 million last year in total (compensation), 2.5 million in cash and the rest in stock/assets. There's no way Phil is making 9 figs.
It’s why I didn’t say 9 figures, my post says 8
 

Taur007

Member
At the very most, he has implied it repeatedly. I'd rather he show some balls and be explicitly clear with Xbox fans.
This!! Haven't had a PS since ps2, but this is the first time ever I'm considering going ps6 and just using xcloud, just waiting on an "official" confirmation at this point.
 
You really got to appreciate the friday night news dump. Phil knew what he said would make waves, but hopes it will go over easier as people digest it over the weekend. Smart man
 

SHAKEZ

Member
Phil is just a puppet for Nadella and it's clear he just says what Nadella tells him to.
Dude is aging really rapidly also, Xbox must be fucking rough on the inside.
 

Edder1

Member
The guy looks like life was sucked out of him. I find it hilarious how people bought into his "gaming CEO" persona for so long, lol. The guy is a used car salesman who works as CEO at Microsoft, nothing more nothing less.
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
At the very most, he has implied it repeatedly. I'd rather he show some balls and be explicitly clear with Xbox fans.

This!! Haven't had a PS since ps2, but this is the first time ever I'm considering going ps6 and just using xcloud, just waiting on an "official" confirmation at this point.

It has nothing to do with balls. The problem here is that Xbox fans think Phil owes them something as if they were lifetime friends. As long as an Xbox consumer will consider future Xbox hardware and/or GamePass subscriptions by not saying anything "official," why would he eschew that revenue? Again because you think he's a friend and a friend wouldn't do you dirty?

Xbox wants to have its cake and it eat too. It will gouge core Xbox fans as long as they're willing to pay to "stay in the fight."

Just look at how Microsoft treats Xbox fans there are two segments of GamePass: Console and PC. PC GamePass gets everything cheaper than console GamePass. Why? Because they're more valuable to them. It's an inverse relationship. They sell you a console at a loss, they need to recoup that money and once you're locked in, you're far more likely to pay whatever price they want. That's why they've quietly discontinued the XSX disc version. They feel like anyone who buys and grows their digital library now even if they were on the edge of leaving will stay if they can play those games on future hardware or platforms.

People have invested 20+ years into Xbox, so they're running this sunken cost fallacy. They'll keep digging themselves deeper into the hole rather than simply realize, Xbox isn't the future of gaming.

I can tell you from experience that I stayed way too long with Blackberry, because I thought they were great phones. The Blackberry Torch came out in 2010 and I bought it, despite the iPhone 4 having just come out. When I did finally give up on Blackberry the next year and I got an Android and I was happy too, but again I stayed too long. iOS distanced itself from Android and I probably stayed a couple years too long. Finally got an iPhone and I'm on my second iPhone having owned the 13 Pro and 15 Pro. Sometimes regardless of the time you've put into something you've got to know when to call it a day.

The big difference though between me staying on phones I shouldn't is that most applications are free. There might be a handful of apps I'd have to repurchase if I really cared to, but investing in games is different. Your digital library or even physical library are going to be completely useless unless you're prepared to spend top dollar to stay in the ecosystem, while they continue to jack up prices for GamePass to recoup from a lack of software sales.
 
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Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
You really got to appreciate the friday night news dump. Phil knew what he said would make waves, but hopes it will go over easier as people digest it over the weekend. Smart man

Take a second and think though. He didn't need to have the interview at all. So why have it? As an explanation for the developer direct having all those games going to PS5 except South of Midnight? No... I don't think so. What that means is Microsoft is preparing to announce a lot more games going to PS5 and Switch 2 in the coming days, weeks, or months.

Avowed is likely to underperform and they probably want something to come out before the end of the quarter to boost their numbers. They've given Avowed zero advertising campaign, just like with Hellblade. They're not at all confident about the game. They barely advertised Indiana Jones.

Whether it be Halo, Starfield, or Flight Sim, I wouldn't be surprised if one of these hits by the end of March.
 

Interfectum

Member
Take a second and think though. He didn't need to have the interview at all. So why have it? As an explanation for the developer direct having all those games going to PS5 except South of Midnight? No... I don't think so. What that means is Microsoft is preparing to announce a lot more games going to PS5 and Switch 2 in the coming days, weeks, or months.

Avowed is likely to underperform and they probably want something to come out before the end of the quarter to boost their numbers. They've given Avowed zero advertising campaign, just like with Hellblade. They're not at all confident about the game. They barely advertised Indiana Jones.

Whether it be Halo, Starfield, or Flight Sim, I wouldn't be surprised if one of these hits by the end of March.
Yeah no doubt there is a pattern to Phil’s nonsense. He tries so hard to keep the Xbox fanbase happy when he’s shivving them in the back. I honestly don’t know why he bothers anymore. He’s wrecked Xbox as a console platform and there’s no amount of spin he can do on Xbox enthusiasts podcasts that will change that.

But like you said, something is coming. He’s trying to soften the blow. I’m guessing Switch 2 reveal with dual announcements for Switch 2 and PS5 games.
 
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Ozriel

M$FT
It has nothing to do with balls. The problem here is that Xbox fans think Phil owes them something as if they were lifetime friends. As long as an Xbox consumer will consider future Xbox hardware and/or GamePass subscriptions by not saying anything "official," why would he eschew that revenue? Again because you think he's a friend and a friend wouldn't do you dirty?

Xbox wants to have its cake and it eat too. It will gouge core Xbox fans as long as they're willing to pay to "stay in the fight."

Just look at how Microsoft treats Xbox fans there are two segments of GamePass: Console and PC. PC GamePass gets everything cheaper than console GamePass. Why? Because they're more valuable to them. It's an inverse relationship. They sell you a console at a loss, they need to recoup that money and once you're locked in, you're far more likely to pay whatever price they want. That's why they've quietly discontinued the XSX disc version. They feel like anyone who buys and grows their digital library now even if they were on the edge of leaving will stay if they can play those games on future hardware or platforms.

People have invested 20+ years into Xbox, so they're running this sunken cost fallacy. They'll keep digging themselves deeper into the hole rather than simply realize, Xbox isn't the future of gaming.

I can tell you from experience that I stayed way too long with Blackberry, because I thought they were great phones. The Blackberry Torch came out in 2010 and I bought it, despite the iPhone 4 having just come out. When I did finally give up on Blackberry the next year and I got an Android and I was happy to, but again I stayed too long. iOS distanced itself from Android and I probably stayed a couple years too long. Finally got an iPhone and I'm on my second iPhone having owned the 13 Pro and 15 Pro. Sometimes regardless of the time you've put into something you've got to know when to call it a day.

The big difference though between me staying on phones I shouldn't is that most applications are free. There might be a handful of apps I'd have to repurchase if I really cared too, but investing in games is different. Your digital library or even physical library are going to be completely useless unless you're prepared to spend top dollar to stay in the ecosystem, while they continue to jack up prices for GamePass to recoup from a lack of software sales.

I haven’t watched the video. Did he really imply that existing hardware Will spontaneously combust, rendering your entire Xbox library useless? or that they’ve completely nixed plans for more Xbox hardware?

What a weird post.

Why would they need to jack up prices for GamePass to recoup for a lack of software sales if they’re going to be selling their games on PS5, Switch and Steam?
 
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