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[DeepEnigma]

Given everything that's happened over the last 15 years or so you have to be an utter moron to continue to bumlick this guy in any way.

They stay eating his ass.

 

[Cakeboxer]

The first Sony published title arrived on PC in 2015.

Ah come on, it's not even a first party studio game. Nobody would have imagined Sony going pc with it's AAA singleplayers, but they did. After Microsoft did it. But we already had that, people can believe whater they want, but some of those companie's decisions are influenced by each other. For example, i don't know who did the following things first, but now both have/had it: Paying for online gaming, a couple of free games with an online sub, achievemet/trophy system or game streaming.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

There's like 50-70m-strong combined Xbox installbase out there.

Assume normies make %70 of that, this means that you have ~35-50m users that are completely unaware of the shenanigans that are happening with exclusivity etc, that number is more than enough to be called a horde imo.

And these “normies” are going to watch a Phil Spencer interview?

 

[March Climber]

Man the stupid comments in here. Why comment on the mans health/face? Jeesh

Because gamers have changed and focus on aesthetic first and foremost now.

Look at any thread where people are immediately upset when a protagonist looks any less attractive than a supermodel, regardless of gameplay or story quality.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

imparcial games journalist ask a leading question and backfires

There's your answer

Xbox was Dreamcasted this year. There's no lines. Halo, Gears, they're all coming to PS5. It's the only way Microsoft can sustain these studios

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I guess folks are going to keep asking the question until we get to the point that all MS games show up day one on PlayStation and Nintendo. I'm thinking MS will focus on the big older games like MCC but leave the rest alone.

It's pretty clear to me that all *NEW* games that have had enough time in development to add PS5 into their dev cycle will launch day and date on PS5

We are seeing that already with Ninja Gaiden 4, The Outer Worlds 2, and Doom. Phil could have made those games exclusive and he didn't.

Read their actions and follow it up with their words, and just look at how much Xbox sales have collapsed to see the writing on the wall.

 

[GHG]

Ah come on, it's not even a first party studio game. Nobody would have imagined Sony going pc with it's AAA singleplayers, but they did. After Microsoft did it. But we already had that, people can believe whater they want, but some of those companie's decisions are influenced by each other.

What influences successful businesses is not what other people are doing, but rather carving out their own best pathways to success (which means increases in profits and margins). Sony have gone on record across multiple earnings calls and clearly stated that the reason they release their titles on PC at a later date is for the purposes of margin expansion.

On the other hand, Microsoft's strategy of releasing all of their titles on PC on the same date has not resulted in margin expansion, but rather it's had a cannibalistic effect on their core Xbox business. Please explain to me why other, more successful participants in an industry would want to follow the loser?

Unfortunately, it seems like you're viewing the business world from a very "Microsoft" point of view.



And for the record, Helldivers is owned by Sony, whether or not it's developed by an in-house studio is irrelevant in this discussion. They have full control of the IP and resulting games.

 

[Astray]

And these “normies” are going to watch a Phil Spencer interview?

If he directly addresses them through channels they DO follow, then word will spread.

He doesn't have to do this himself, mind you. They have a vast PR army in there.

 

[Cakeboxer]

What influences successful businesses is not what other people are doing, but rather carving out their own best pathways to success (which means increases in profits and margins). Sony have gone on record across multiple earnings calls and clearly stated that the reason they release their titles on PC at a later date is for the purposes of margin expansion.

On the other hand, Microsoft's strategy of releasing all of their titles on PC on the same date has not resulted in margin expansion, but rather it's had a cannibalistic effect on their core Xbox business. Please explain to me why other, more successful participants in an industry would want to follow the loser?

Unfortunately, it seems like you're viewing the business world from a very "Microsoft" point of view.

It doesn't matter what strategies worked, Some of Sony's decisions weren't made without Microsoft and vice versa. That's my point. You missed my edit with some other examples.
In the same way you got a very Sony point of view. But that's fine. As a pc player i love Microsoft for saving me thousands of bucks with Game Pass and bringing all games to pc and also for making Sony go in that direction too. Who followed who in what decision doesn't affect me personally, i'm just telling my thoughts. If you have a different opinions that's fine, no hard feelings.

 

[Topher]

As a pc player i love Microsoft for saving me thousands of bucks with Game Pass and bringing all games to pc and also for making Sony go in that direction too.

The only way Microsoft made Sony "go in that direction" is by allowing Xbox to no longer be a threat to PlayStation. If the consoles were as competitive as they were in the 360/PS3 gen then neither would have games on PC.

 

[Cakeboxer]

The only way Microsoft made Sony "go in that direction" is by allowing Xbox to no longer be a threat to PlayStation.

Microsoft did it out of desperation but although dominating i think Sony wouldn't have done it without Microsoft doing it first. Microsoft was still a threat to them, even after Sony went to Pc in 2020 (Bethesda, Activision).

If the consoles were as competitive as they were in the 360/PS3 gen then neither would have games on PC.

Agreed.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

The only way Microsoft made Sony "go in that direction" is by allowing Xbox to no longer be a threat to PlayStation. If the consoles were as competitive as they were in the 360/PS3 gen then neither would have games on PC.

I'm not sure that's the case.

Sony is on PC because of extra revenue and the increased cost of games. Building games on x86 architecture means porting is relatively easy and much easier than it was before when they were built on the cell processor.

There might have been even MORE reason to put games on PC if there was more competition i.e. fewer console units sold.

Sony and Microsoft looked at EA, Activision, and T2 all become giant companies making multiplatform games. Sony might have even put older games on Xbox if premium games weren't devalued on the platform.

Sony had some of the biggest games of the generation on PS3 and PS4 yet these games weren't nearly as big a seller or sustainable as other games that were multiplatform.

I think we'd see more Sony games on switch if they didn't have a handheld in the works.

 

[Topher]

Microsoft did it out of desperation but although dominating i think Sony wouldn't have done it without Microsoft doing it first. Microsoft was still a threat to them, even after Sony went to Pc in 2020 (Bethesda, Activision).

Agreed.

No way to know obviously. I don't think Sony was shadowing Microsoft to stay competitive. We gotta keep in mind that consoles are really the only segment where Sony and Microsoft compete directly.

I'm not sure that's the case.

Sony is on PC because of extra revenue and the increased cost of games. Building games on x86 architecture means porting is relatively easy and much easier than it was before when they were built on the cell processor.

There might have been even MORE reason to put games on PC if there was more competition i.e. fewer console units sold.

Sony and Microsoft looked at EA, Activision, and T2 all become giant companies making multiplatform games. Sony might have even put older games on Xbox if premium games weren't devalued on the platform.

Sony had some of the biggest games of the generation on PS3 and PS4 yet these games weren't nearly as big a seller or sustainable as other games that were multiplatform.

I think we'd see more Sony games on switch if they didn't have a handheld in the works.

Fair points. I think in that scenario Cakeboxer may have been right and it would be a matter of who blinks first.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

You look at Hogwarts Legacy and you can kind of envision how well Spider-Man could do on the platform. Then you realize you have three Spider-Man games...

That could be 30-40 million units sold across the 3 games. That's upwards of 2 billion dollars in revenue... That's transformative for a studio like Insomniac and entirely erases that 300 million dollar per game development cost.

It's low-key crazy not to be on every platform.

 

[Oppoi]

imparcial games journalist ask a leading question and backfires

Imagine what it's like to be told "you might be out of a job" like that.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Microsoft did it out of desperation but although dominating i think Sony wouldn't have done it without Microsoft doing it first. Microsoft was still a threat to them, even after Sony went to Pc in 2020 (Bethesda, Activision).

Agreed.

Both you and Topher are missing the point.

Really, the issue of games going cross-platform has nothing to do with Microsoft doing it first. The PC has always been a viable platform with a large userbase.

The reason games are cross-platform now is because the cost to develop them is too high and margins are razor thin. This wasn't the case in the past, you could easily afford to be more selective with where your games end up and still be highly successful with healthy margins. This was ALSO true for Microsoft being able to keep their games exclusive to Xbox instead of going to PC or Playstation.

When your games cost hundreds of millions to make, you don't have the luxury of keeping your titles exclusive unless the audience is so small you can ignore it (like Xbox). PC and Playstation (and Switch) are too big to ignore.

 

[bighugeguns]

Phil used his Nintendo bribe money to pay for his expensive liposuction. What a baller.

 

[Humdinger]

It's kind of funny, if you look at comments on the original video, everyone is complimenting Phil on how good he looks - he lost the weight, slimmed down, "bro must be hitting the gym," looks great. Here everyone thinks he looks like death warmed over.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

It's kind of funny, if you look at comments on the original video, everyone is complimenting Phil on how good he looks - he lost the weight, slimmed down, "bro must be hitting the gym," looks great. Here everyone thinks he looks like death warmed over.

I don't get the "he looks like shit" comments. He looks healthier.

I guess a lot of people these days are fat themselves and expect others to also look fat. Being thin/healthy is actually seen as strange.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

Wild and brutal. Destin's soul left his body after this response.


Devastating interview for any green console warriors still out there.

 

[clintar]

Trump would be ashamed.

 

[rofif]

That’s just a losers talk.
promote whatever works at the time.
When their 360 exclusives sold great on 360, we were hearing how ports don’t make sense or are impossible

 

[AmuroChan]

I guess a lot of people these days are fat themselves and expect others to also look fat. Being thin/healthy is actually seen as strange.

That's correct. It absolutely is, especially in America. Americans tend to get fatter as they age into their 50s and 60s. So it's actually strange to see a 58 yr man lose significant weight naturally.

 

[FewRope]

Phil finally fucking said, tbh I wasnt expect him to do it. Kinda wild

 

[Humdinger]

I don't get the "he looks like shit" comments. He looks healthier.

I guess a lot of people these days are fat themselves and expect others to also look fat. Being thin/healthy is actually seen as strange.

I can understand a little of that, because there's a grey sort of pallor and sunken look to his face. Part of that may be lighting, but that's the same thing I said with the last video, so I'm not sure. I've known people who've lost weight naturally, and they generally look healthier, more vibrant. I wouldn't describe Phil that way. He looks more sallow. As others have said, maybe that's because he isn't losing weight in natural ways but through Ozempic. I don't know enough about Ozempic to comment on that. It could also be the subject matter itself affecting his mood, which makes him look more drawn than he might if he were happy and enthusiastic about the topic.

Anyhow, I just thought the contrast between the two perspectives was funny. Sort of like one of those optical illusions where you can see two different figures depending on how you look.

 

[Haint]

man, not a fan of spencer, but hope thats just an ozempic face and not something worse, dude aged like 30 years in last 10

Literally every celebrity and CEO is OD'ing on Ozempic.

 

[saintjules]

It's kind of funny, if you look at comments on the original video, everyone is complimenting Phil on how good he looks - he lost the weight, slimmed down, "bro must be hitting the gym," looks great. Here everyone thinks he looks like death warmed over.

I don't get the "he looks like shit" comments. He looks healthier.

I guess a lot of people these days are fat themselves and expect others to also look fat. Being thin/healthy is actually seen as strange.

Let's focus on the games. How Phil looks is irrelevant. He knows what he's doing and he will focus on himself. If he's healthy, great. If not, okay, he will work on it.

This is a gaming forum lol. Why are we talking about a person's health?

 

[Humdinger]

Let's focus on the games. How Phil looks is irrelevant. He knows what he's doing and he will focus on himself. If he's healthy, great. If not, okay, he will work on it.

This is a gaming forum lol. Why are we talking about a person's health????

Why not? Phil is our lord and savior. It makes sense to be worried about his well being.

 

[ArcaneNLSC]

Another fantastic Phil Spencer interview, the modern day savior of gaming.

When Phil's balls are so deep down our own throat they touch your own balls

 

[Heisenberg007]

Dudes a fraud. Took me a couple of years to come round but the guys a cunt.

Reminds me of Tony Blair.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Another fantastic Phil Spencer interview, the modern day savior of gaming.

Same vibes from Adamsapple now that Xbox is third-party.

 

[Puscifer]

Ah yes, good guy Phil, the one that cares about us, "the gamers" ! One of us one of us !

This is the new spin i see after everything else has failed, and the worst part is, the usual fans are just gonna eat it up, you know, the ones that used to cheer about the Tflop advantage with the infinite system wars before release, about the Actiblizz acquisition and how "dead" the opposition would become because of it etc etc...

You can't make this shit up, it's been bullshit PR after bullshit PR with this guy for the past 5+ years, at this point it's just comedic not mention, fuel for the most hardcore of the green fanboys as to have something to hold on to and frankly, it's beyond pathetic.

The used car salesman of the gaming world

Truly. I said it several times it's actually commendable how he kept Xbox alive, what isn't and never will be is stopping the sinking ship and then blasting holes in it from the inside out.

 

[LordCBH]

Wild and brutal. Destin's soul left his body after this response.


Devastating interview for any green console warriors still out there.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I remember seeing a dude here asking for a painstaking breakdown of Phil's interviews.




(haven't watched) This YouTuber tends to shown the receipts (Phil and other executives statements over the years)

Edit: first 5 minutes of the breakdown.... Phil is going to be annihilated, obliterated, decimated. what a clown Phil truly is

 

[Mister Wolf]

He says this, but then screws game over like South Of Midnight by not allowing them to release day one on Playstation.

 

[DarkstarRising13]

He says this, but then screws game over like South Of Midnight by not allowing them to release day one on Playstation.

That game is woke af. DEI Detected by Kabrutus due to Sweet Baby Inc.'s involvement in that game.

 

[Mister Wolf]

That game is woke af. DEI Detected by Kabrutus due to Sweet Baby Inc.'s involvement in that game.

I'm aware. That's not the topic though. Hi Fi Rush got screwed not being on Playstation day one as well.

 

[Windle Poons]

I still think MS is going to shove Game Pass XSX/PC as 'the best place to play everything is an Xbox' strapline.

Then to attempt to claw some revenue back, PS5 and Switch 4 to 6 months after Game Pass.

 

[Jaguar Victory]

He's 57 you dweebs. Looks great for his age.

 

[havoc00]

He's 57 you dweebs. Looks great for his age.

People are analyzing him like they want to fuck him, def weird behavior

 

[Mibu no ookami]

It's pretty clear to me that all *NEW* games that have had enough time in development to add PS5 into their dev cycle will launch day and date on PS5

We are seeing that already with Ninja Gaiden 4, The Outer Worlds 2, and Doom. Phil could have made those games exclusive and he didn't.

Read their actions and follow it up with their words, and just look at how much Xbox sales have collapsed to see the writing on the wall.

I don't think all "new" games are coming either.

I think you have four types of games

• Catalog titles
• New games that are about to release relatively soon, for which analysis has to be done on the merits of a port
• New games that are far into development but got PlayStation devkits early enough to make a port
• New games that are not far into development

When you look at catalog titles, they aren't going to port all of them. There's just not a great reason to. They're not going to port Redfall and they probably won't port Flight Simulator 2020 instead of 2024. Similarly Forza Horizon 4 won't port over because 5 will or maybe even 6.

Avowed for example is releasing soon, if this game scores a 65 on Metacritic, it's not getting a PS5 port.

Doom Dark Ages probably got resources early enough and might have even been in development for PS5 since the beginning or at least very early on.

Games like Fable or the next Halo game would have had enough lead time to get a day and date release.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

The ‘lack of subsidy’ argument you made up?



Not cutting the price seems to be tied directly to their pivot to emphasizing software ubiquity vs console hardware sales.
None of the major console manufacturers has had a price cut. And if you’re claiming that raising prices of more profit margin friendly models indicates a full removal of subsidy, why aren’t you extending the same argument to the PlayStation given the price of the PS5 Pro?

In fact, with Xbox hardware being heavily deemphasized, there’s probably more incentive for Sony to optimize on price for next gen.



Gamepass is a significant reason for me, personally. But more importantly, these are affordable devices (especially compared to mobile devices) and provides hardware variety.



If sales on three platforms isn’t enough to make money on games, doesn’t that mean you’re also predicting doom for Nintendo and Sony with their exclusivity strategy?

Still don't see Microsoft is pushing for higher profitability?

Still think it is an assumption?

 

[Ozriel]

Still don't see Microsoft is pushing for higher profitability?

Still think it is an assumption?

Lmao. Name one for-profit corporation in the world that isn’t pushing for higher profitability.

Heck, Sony announced they were doing stuff to increase profit margins last year.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Lmao. Name one for-profit corporation in the world that isn’t pushing for higher profitability.

Heck, Sony announced they were doing stuff to increase profit margins last year.

And yet they heavily discounted PS5s over the holidays and are still selling PS5s at a discount on PS Direct...

They also heavily discounted PSVR2 through the holidays.

They were able to do this because of a high margin product like the PS5 Pro, which I told you is going to be a pricing model for Microsoft in any future hardware.

You're lost man. Get a grip.

 

[powder]

yet here I am, payed zero since I was put onto it

How'd you work that out? Canadian?

 

[M1chl]

How'd you work that out? Canadian?

Czech, meds are usually this price

 

[tr1p1ex]

open world games only. literally

 

[powder]

Czech, meds are usually this price

I knew it wasn't America lol. Good for you!

 

[Dorago]

No one is buying our games.

Let's spend millions of dollars so that no one continues to buy our games.

Nobody buys your games on PC where there is no barrier to entry.

"I'm going to play Halo Infinite on my PS5."

It's not even appealing.