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PS5 Pro Pricing Didn’t Have A Negative Effect; Aimed For Hardcore Users, Says Sony President Hiroki Totoki

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The President, CFO, and COO of Sony, Hiroki Totoki, revealed during the live stream after the latest financial earnings call that PS5 Pro pricing didn’t have any negative effect.
In terms of the pricing, many people made different comments on that, but pricing on PS5 Pro has not had a negative impact, I don’t think.

-Hiroki Totoki​

He further revealed that ‘hardcore users are the target of this hardware.’

Source - Tech4gamers
 

Little Mac

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Just hit up Bestbuy during lunch to see if it was running on display there. It wasn’t but there were a stack of 11 or 12 of them available near the registers.

I want one, and kinda jealous of my GAF bros who are playing it right now, but I decided to wait til next year before picking it up. I just don’t need it atm. I beat Astro Bot (GOTY!) and currently halfway through Metaphor. DQ3 is probably next on my list and none of these titles need the Pro. The recent Baldur’s Gate 3 4k60 on the Pro announcement had me looking for my wallet though … maybe if there is a good Black Friday deal I might break down and grab one. I really should be putting the money towards an OLED TV though.
 
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onQ123

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The President, CFO, and COO of Sony, Hiroki Totoki, revealed during the live stream after the latest financial earnings call that PS5 Pro pricing didn’t have any negative effect.



He further revealed that ‘hardcore users are the target of this hardware.’

Source - Tech4gamers
It's actually helping because people feel like it give them a higher status, PS4 Pro wasn't met with this much excitement.
 

Vick

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make the next one even more premium IMO. gap should be larger between base and Pro. I think the minumum in power gap should be what xbox 1 to 1X was
This. As long as the machine retains the good value most Consoles always had, I wouldn't oppose at all a closed machine for even more than double Pro's price honestly.

And this one has yet to let me down, tested raw performance increase in unpatched games I cared about (mostly Capcom games) and Pro runs them at 4K + RT at stable 60fps, out of patched games only tried TLOU Part I and Forbidden West and they both blew me the fuck away. Now enjoying a full RE4R run on it.
 
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I think they were right with the price. At least it reduced scalping. When PS5 was released the actual average price was way higher than MSRP and plenty of people couldn't buy it at 700-800 something (instead of 500).
 
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Solarstrike

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If people aren't minding the price then why the f wasn't the disc drive included on the system or at least two options to choose? People would have paid the extra if they didn't mind. Will someone fire him and whoever decided it was a logical idea to split the disc drive from the console, creating this fiasco overpriced scalpfest we have now. That said. I love my Pro, So far I've tried Horizon Zero Dawn: Forbidden West. 4k Aloy looks glorious everything seems crisper.
 
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IntentionalPun

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Well it’s not even close to selling out, launching during holiday spending (maybe a touch before it really pops off.). So not exactly sure how you can conclude that.

Great machine tho.
 
Just hit up Bestbuy during lunch to see if it was running on display there. It wasn’t but there were a stack of 11 or 12 of them available near the registers.

I want one, and kinda jealous of my GAF bros who are playing it right now, but I decided to wait til next year before picking it up. I just don’t need it atm. I beat Astro Bot (GOTY!) and currently halfway through Metaphor. DQ3 is probably next on my list and none of these titles need the Pro. The recent Baldur’s Gate 3 4k60 on the Pro announcement had me looking for my wallet though … maybe if there is a good Black Friday deal I might break down and grab one. I really should be putting the money towards an OLED TV though.

It just released there's no way there's a BF deal. Maybe gamestop will have a trade in deal that's the best you could hope for.
 
If people aren't minding the price then why the
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wasn't the disc drive included on the system? People would have paid the extra if they didn't mind. Will someone fire him and whoever decided it was a logical idea to split the disc drive from the console, creating this fiasco overpriced scalpfest we have now. F him and his 4k shiny raytraced bald fking head. It's a rough time out there give people a break show some love. That said. I love my Pro, Horizon Forbidden West gave me something I haven't had in a while, a decent stiffy; 4k Aloy looks glorious. Ttyl

Mentioned this before.. they wanted to see what the % would put in the effort to get the drive and install it.
 
Well it’s not even close to selling out, launching during holiday spending (maybe a touch before it really pops off.). So not exactly sure how you can conclude that.

Great machine tho.

Because we have no idea how many they made that's how we can conclude that. Also lets be real if it did sell out people would just say Sony didn't make enough on purpose. That's the excuse I always see when anything PS related sales out.
 

Solarstrike

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Mentioned this before.. they wanted to see what the % would put in the effort to get the drive and install it.

Edited my initial post. Exactly! Is this some sort of experiment by SONY and wtf, where is the disc drive supply at? Distributors should be stocked along with limit on how many people can purchase, idk. Gamestop having them hostage behind their Gamestop Pro requirement is purely vile and anti-consumer.

There's a ton of people out there with physical games, whether on their PS4/PS4 Pro/or OG PS5. Can't play any of them on the PS5 Pro without the drive due to them being greyed out/locked. What the heck is the on-board A.I good for if it cannot detect the games you bought/own and give option to install/reinstall them on the Pro? Whatever happened to TYPING IN THE CD KEY, binding it to your account and allowing people to redownload their game without the disc if they for example, cannot afford to purchase a disc drive? Further, one would think SONY would be running a sale on the best games like Demon Souls which I have the disk version of and can't fking play it. I'd rebuy it if It was on sale. SONY has been making some real questionable decisions of late, notwithstanding game development.
 
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James Sawyer Ford

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It's the first mainline console or portable I haven't bought on launch day in my entire life. Nearly $900 for upscaling and quasi-60fps just ain't worth it. I'd rather dump that money into a 5090 for 4K DLAA and 120+ fps.

That says nothing about the Value of the Pro, and more about your own personal values if you're willing to spend thousands just go to from a 4090 to a 5090 when it comes out.

To me, spending thousands of dollars on a GPU just to continue having stuttering issues, dealing with shader compilation, seems a little ridiculous to me, but to each their own. PS5 Pro games look phenomenal and I do not need 120 fps.
 

Bojji

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That says nothing about the Value of the Pro, and more about your own personal values if you're willing to spend thousands just go to from a 4090 to a 5090 when it comes out.

To me, spending thousands of dollars on a GPU just to continue having stuttering issues, dealing with shader compilation, seems a little ridiculous to me, but to each their own. PS5 Pro games look phenomenal and I do not need 120 fps.

Only some games have issues like that, just like some games on consoles have stupid frame rate locks (wukong) and/or very low resolutions. There is no platform with zero issues.
 
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IntentionalPun

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Because we have no idea how many they made that's how we can conclude that. Also let’s be real if it did sell out people would just say Sony didn't make enough on purpose. That's the excuse I always see when anything PS related sales out.
Well we know that it didn’t sell out.

Which means you really can’t know that the price didn’t effect the launch sales.

I’m not saying it did; but the CEO saying it didn’t “I think” isn’t seemingly based on facts.

If it sold out you actually could say it didn’t affect launch sales. Doesn’t matter how many they produced or whatever hypothetical you can come up with.
 
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Edited my initial post. Exactly! Is this some sort of experiment by SONY and wtf, where is the disc drive supply at? Distributors should be stocked along with limit on how many people can purchase, idk. Gamestop having them hostage behind their Gamestop Pro requirement is purely vile and anti-consumer. There's a sht ton of people out there with physical games, whether on their PS4/PS4 Pro/or OG PS5. Can't play any of them without the drive. They're greyed out/locked and it doesn't give an option to install them even though it knows you own them. Wtf A.I are they using it should detect that, at least! Whatever happened to TYPING IN THE CD KEY that way it would allow people to redownload their game without the disc. And you'd think they would be running a sale on the best games like Demon Souls which I have the disk version of and can't fking play it. I'd rebuy it if It was on sale. SONY has been making some real questionable decisions of late, game development included.

Now that you mention it... the drive is now OOS at Sony Direct. It was in stock for the longest time.

It is currently in stock at Gamestop.
 

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Well duh, he's right. Price is a non issue. If you want a premium product, you pay more for it. End of story.

Why the fuck do you think a 4090 cost $5000? lmao

Why do you think a Nikon Z9 costs 10x as much as a Nikon Z30?

why is the iPhone PRO MAX almost double the base model price?

There is such thing as a premium product. Gamers for some illogical reason expect premium products to cost the same as the base model.

LOL
 
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proandrad

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It would have been legendary for Chad Warden to make his return at this time. To defend the PSquintuple Pro.
 
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w00ze

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It's the first mainline console or portable I haven't bought on launch day in my entire life. Nearly $900 for upscaling and quasi-60fps just ain't worth it. I'd rather dump that money into a 5090 for 4K DLAA and 120+ fps.
Just curious about the nearly 900? Mine was 750 shipped. If we are just saying gpu vs console. I can’t wait for the ti 50xx series. Not sure the supposed almost 2k for the 5090 is in my cards.
 

yogaflame

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Again pro is optional and its for enthusiast. It is expected to be expensive and not for everyone. Ps5 slim and ps5 OG is still the main product and it is still a good system. So when it comes to ps6 four years from now, don't be anxious, it will still be base on the price of the standard PS console launch.
 
If it sold out you actually could say it didn’t affect launch sales. Doesn’t matter how many they produced or whatever hypothetical you can come up with.

Sure it does. If they only made 10,000 consoles and they sold out would you be impressed? Now if they made 30,000,000 and it didn't sell out would that be impressive or would that just be so much stock that obviously it wouldn't sell out.
 

jm89

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Well we know that it didn’t sell out.

Which means you really can’t know that the price didn’t effect the launch sales.

I’m not saying it did; but the CEO saying it didn’t “I think” isn’t seemingly based on facts.

If it sold out you actually could say it didn’t affect launch sales. Doesn’t matter how many they produced or whatever hypothetical you can come up with.
Could be their preorder numbers are inline with expectations.
 
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I'm sticking with the OG PS5 mainly cause I don't feel like upgrading my TV which doesn't have HDMI 2.1.
Having to upgrade both right now doesn't seem like enough for me. I'll probably just get a new TV same day as the PS6 release.
 

IntentionalPun

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So you think he is going to openly lie to investors?
Huh? At least by the translation he’s just stating an opinion. CEO’s can say whatever they want in that case:

Not sure why you are ignoring my point to throw out that kind of statement.

Companies BS and spin all the time, they just can’t make factually incorrect statements.
 
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