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[Air Zombie Meat]

A big difference is that political views aren't moderator enforced here. Politics threads do lean right but if most arguing for the left leave or stop posting what can you do. Personally I tend to say out of those threads as they're mostly american politics which I'm sick of at this point.

 

[michaelius]

Of course it was hive minded- I wouldn't argue that. And overly strict moderation tends to keep hives even more single minded. But to pretend that the new neogaf doesn't have a dominant hive mentality is just not true; the community that ended up reforming has a very different (but not really any more diverse) flavor.

Yes it's natural result of most of left leaning posters moving over to new place. But there's a major difference. You can come here and post whatever you want as long as you don't insult other people while if I went to era and started posting what I think as conservative I'd be banned on the spot.

 

[Yoshi]

Yes it's natural result of most of left leaning posters moving over to new place. But there's a major difference. You can come here and post whatever you want as long as you don't insult other people while if I went to era and started posting what I think as conservative I'd be banned on the spot.

But, well, NeoGAF now has a hive mind mentality too, which is very apparent in how a lot of people deal e.g. with Nobody_Important. It is not a moderation enforced hive mind, so chances are it will improve over time, but currently, there is a pretty big right-leaning bias here.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

But, well, NeoGAF now has a hive mind mentality too, which is very apparent in how a lot of people deal e.g. with Nobody_Important. It is not a moderation enforced hive mind, so chances are it will improve over time, but currently, there is a pretty big right-leaning bias here.

When you say "It's kind of a hive mind, but it isn't, but it can be, but at least mods aren't enforcing it, but muh right-leaning bias" then you're not really saying anything at all.

People need to loosen up. Y'all acting like slightly-conservative viewpoints are going to infect you somehow. This site has a pretty broad set of opinions on display.

 

[Yoshi]

When you say "It's kind of a hive mind, but it isn't, but it can be, but at least mods aren't enforcing it, but muh right-leaning bias" then you're not really saying anything at all.

People need to loosen up. Y'all acting like slightly-conservative viewpoints are going to infect you somehow. This site has a pretty broad set of opinions on display.

When I'm saying that, then you are right, it isn't. But let me show you in how far our statements differ:

When you say "It's kind of a hive mind, but it isn't, but it can be, but at least mods aren't enforcing it, but muh right-leaning bias"

(I have croosed the but muh, because it is not a but, but a description of the hive mind)

 

[bigedole]

When you say "It's kind of a hive mind, but it isn't, but it can be, but at least mods aren't enforcing it, but muh right-leaning bias" then you're not really saying anything at all.

People need to loosen up. Y'all acting like slightly-conservative viewpoints are going to infect you somehow. This site has a pretty broad set of opinions on display.

Yikes. Not a good look.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

When I'm saying that, then you are right, it isn't. But let me show you in how far our statements differ:
(I have croosed the but muh, because it is not a but, but a description of the hive mind)

I was actually trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you don't truly believe this is a hive mind in light of all the plain evidence available to you.

But hey, if that's how you want to double down... blackjack!

 

[dyergram]

Neogaf went so far left it snapped and made a new website. I’m a member of both although I find myself deleting replies before I post them there for fear of being banned.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

But, well, NeoGAF now has a hive mind mentality too, which is very apparent in how a lot of people deal e.g. with Nobody_Important. It is not a moderation enforced hive mind, so chances are it will improve over time, but currently, there is a pretty big right-leaning bias here.

I think part of the reason people deal with Nobody_Important they way they do is that when it comes to political issues he could literally be the daily talking points memo on Social Justice for the DNC and Resetera.

Yet there was nary a peep from him in support of Warren's Accountable Capitalism act thread that I made - other than saying that will never happen. He's seen as a blind partisan with a singular focus on certain hot button issues.

Yet I did finally agree with him on something in that MMA thread, so there is that.

 

[Kadayi]

But, well, NeoGAF now has a hive mind mentality too, which is very apparent in how a lot of people deal e.g. with Nobody_Important. It is not a moderation enforced hive mind, so chances are it will improve over time, but currently, there is a pretty big right-leaning bias here.

Please, you clearly haven't been paying attention if you think the membership here is right wing. IIRC most people ate libertarian left (myself included): -

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/poli...l-show-you-mine-if-you-show-me-yours.1460934/

Nobody Important gets short shrift because he makes persistently bad arguments that don't hold up to a modicum of scrutiny again and again and again without fail. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, you know.

 

[Yoshi]

I was actually trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you don't truly believe this is a hive mind in light of all the plain evidence available to you.

But hey, if that's how you want to double down... blackjack!

There is no plain evidence towards this that I am aware of. It also is something quite natural, if the whole social justice oriented part of the left leaning audience moves towards another platform, then it is a pretty natural thing to happen that a right leaning bias will be observable. And within such a bias, it is also common place (and observable here) that people with outlier opinions get bullied. I do have to say though that it is not automatically the same thing as at Resetera, because I'd say I am more of an outlier here than there, but aggressive ad hominems have been a very rare experience here, so there is more wiggle room in terms of tolerated opinions and it does make a difference if the hive mind is enforced by the moderation staff or not (which it is not here).

 

[bigedole]

I think it's just genuinely hard for most people to engage critically and civilly with those they disagree with, especially when it's in an environment where there's a clear majority of participants on the opposite side of the debate. To compound it further, engaging on the internet in good faith means finding sources that support your argument, and sometimes that's just more trouble than it's worth. It's easy to chime in when you agree with everyone because you just write a sentence or two, add a yikes or say something witty and wait for those delicious likes to roll in.

On a more serious note, I think Yoshi and the other dude are confusing "right leaning bias" with what's really known as a "classical liberal mindset" though. There are clearly many posters here from all over the political spectrum, we just for the most part agree on the fundamental principles of classic liberalism. Only a couple posters here agree with my stances on US economic policies, we're all over the place on abortion, welfare, taxes, religion, etc etc. Just because we all mostly agree that due process is important and that Jordan Peterson says reasonable things doesn't make us a hive mind, however.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

There is no plain evidence towards this that I am aware of. It also is something quite natural, if the whole social justice oriented part of the left leaning audience moves towards another platform, then it is a pretty natural thing to happen that a right leaning bias will be observable. And within such a bias, it is also common place (and observable here) that people with outlier opinions get bullied. I do have to say though that it is not automatically the same thing as at Resetera, because I'd say I am more of an outlier here than there, but aggressive ad hominems have been a very rare experience here, so there is more wiggle room in terms of tolerated opinions and it does make a difference if the hive mind is enforced by the moderation staff or not (which it is not here).

Nah, I'd rather you explain the hive-mind accusations.

Bias is something else entirely, though I'd still disagree that it has a right-leaning bias. As Kadayi pointed out, most are Libertarian Left.

 

[Kadayi]

Nah, I'd rather you explain the hive-mind accusations.

Bias is something else entirely, though I'd still disagree that it has a right-leaning bias. As Kadayi pointed out, most are Libertarian Left.

Indeed I think it's the differential of understanding that right of me, doesn't necessarily equate to actually being right wing. It's like, everyone who disagrees with you is not, in fact, a Nazi.

 

[Dr. Claus]

There is no plain evidence towards this that I am aware of. It also is something quite natural, if the whole social justice oriented part of the left leaning audience moves towards another platform, then it is a pretty natural thing to happen that a right leaning bias will be observable. And within such a bias, it is also common place (and observable here) that people with outlier opinions get bullied. I do have to say though that it is not automatically the same thing as at Resetera, because I'd say I am more of an outlier here than there, but aggressive ad hominems have been a very rare experience here, so there is more wiggle room in terms of tolerated opinions and it does make a difference if the hive mind is enforced by the moderation staff or not (which it is not here).

As you are well aware, right leaning of what GAF used to be is still very much left leaning. Why keep pushing such a silly statement that you know is false? What do you get out of it?

Also who is getting bullied? All I see are playful jabs and ignorant claims getting refuted with facts and logic by others.

 

[Makariel]

It also is something quite natural, if the whole social justice oriented part of the left leaning audience moves towards another platform, then it is a pretty natural thing to happen that a right leaning bias will be observable.

I don't see how that is a given. Just because the extreme left leaves the room doesn't mean that everyone who has been left of center before will suddenly turn into right-wingers. This place is overall pretty much left leaning. Pretending this would have turned into rightwing central command is simply not true, regardless how often it's being repeated by some who think everyone who's not "far enough" on the left doesn't count.

Just because GAF has become open for different views (again) also does not automatically mean all views expressed are automatically endorsed by some mythological hive mind. Some folks just don't bother spending hours of their day browsing through politicial discussions. For example, I only find myself at the politics section if certain people make me go there, because they have seen things I would not believe.

 

[Redneckerz]

But, well, NeoGAF now has a hive mind mentality too, which is very apparent in how a lot of people deal e.g. with Nobody_Important. It is not a moderation enforced hive mind, so chances are it will improve over time, but currently, there is a pretty big right-leaning bias here.

Nobody_Important gets treated the way he gets treated because maybe he is also at fault for this?

I don't really understand why you are breaking a lance for him - Similar to how you felt it needed to be the spokesperson of KevinKeene. Why play this character that questions things from the sidelines, just enough so it puts the attention on you? I am talking about your global posting here, not just this entity.

As you are well aware, right leaning of what GAF used to be is still very much left leaning. Why keep pushing such a silly statement that you know is false? What do you get out of it?

Discussion for the sake of it is still discussion either way.

 

[bitbydeath]

But, well, NeoGAF now has a hive mind mentality too, which is very apparent in how a lot of people deal e.g. with Nobody_Important. It is not a moderation enforced hive mind, so chances are it will improve over time, but currently, there is a pretty big right-leaning bias here.

Nobody_Important is far-left so often the left such as myself also tend to disagree with him.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

But, well, NeoGAF now has a hive mind mentality too, which is very apparent in how a lot of people deal e.g. with Nobody_Important. It is not a moderation enforced hive mind, so chances are it will improve over time, but currently, there is a pretty big right-leaning bias here.

I got to disagree with the right leaning bias of New Gaf.

From my eyes, posters who are far left other than Nobody_Important don't tend to post much beyond "I can't" or "I don't know where to even start" and leave the topic or site. Many of the far left don't post. Many of the left leaning posters stay in Gaming and Off Topic like myself. Many of the center or right leaning do however post in Politics. But 51% of Gaf is not right of center. Maybe 20% max is right of center. They just seem willing to post and argue in Politics.

If all of New Gaf posted in Politics, we would see that the site is still majority left of center.

Then again, many of the internets far left don't think they are far left... Just left of center. So they assume anyone who isn't anti 2nd amendment (for example) is instantly considered right wingers.

Also I think Nobody_Important is a valued member of this site. Just giving acknowledgement that they will argue in politics when many of the far left Gaffers won't. They are willing to get in the mosh pit and start swinging. Wish more would instead of running because moderation won't silence those mean old Nazis.

 

[Airbus Jr]

I don't understand what kind of right left people here are talking about

Because this is a gaming website at first I thought it it was some kind of cheat code some kind of right-left-up-up-down-right-left-down for games

Turns out it was a political stuff

So how do you decide/knows if you're left or right?

 

[Scopa]

It always comes back to the same thing:

Far-left leaning types stick their head in here every few weeks and proclaim that it is a pro-Nazi, far-right hangout because they no longer recognise what normal people do (i.e. discuss different opinions) after living in their hivemind hugbox for so long.

And the solution is always the same: Grow up, get sane and try to remember what normal feels like.

 

[chaos789]

The politics forum may lean right on this board due to most of the users chiming in that lean right. Which is obvious if you like at the topics of the threads which are littered with a right wing point of view.

But I have chimed in on some threads and it is obvious I am to the left politically. But no one says things like “go fuck yourself etc” or calls me a libtard for disagreeing.

Also as a former Neo Nazi skinhead, who left that life 23-24 years ago, I can without a doubt tell you, no one here is a Nazi. As much as I detest Donald Trump and his policies, supporting them does not make you a Nazi.

 

[Corrik]

Redneck just ko'd the dude with another signature wall.

That said, welcome back. Keep posting. The only reason people are really on reset is because they have some developers on there and because it is active.

To put it into comparison though, Reddit crushes them also.

Can GAF ever recover to where it was, unlikely. But, who knows. If it ever does, it would be nice without the banning that went on here previously and there now.

But, until you can pull some insiders, developers, and such back to the site it isn't likely. And even if they wish to post here, they probably can't because they got a few ten thousand large lynch mob at reset ready to brand them a racist and such if they were to post here.

*Shrug*

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Redneck just ko'd the dude with another signature wall.

That said, welcome back. Keep posting. The only reason people are really on reset is because they have some developers on there and because it is active.

To put it into comparison though, Reddit crushes them also.

Can GAF ever recover to where it was, unlikely. But, who knows. If it ever does, it would be nice without the banning that went on here previously and there now.

But, until you can pull some insiders, developers, and such back to the site it isn't likely. And even if they wish to post here, they probably can't because they got a few ten thousand large lynch mob at reset ready to brand them a racist and such if they were to post here.

*Shrug*

Personally, I would be more interested in attracting top players and top content-creators, not developers and publishers and journalists. Either will attract more traffic.

I am fine with industry folk who disclose their own affiliations, but the marriage between OldGAF, developers, and journalists was pretty incestuous and led to certain people using the site to leverage their own brands.

 

[Airbus Jr]

Left : Stark

Pretty much care about everything, principal honor code, nobility, loyalty, sensitive, easily offended, anything dishonorable like cheating, scheming, conspiracy, litlefingering, backstabbing is a shame..rather lose a war than win like this

Right : Lannister

Wana to get everything right, is all about pride, glory, victory, end results, don't really care about code, honor, loyalty, winning is everything just wana get their shit done in any posible way and minimize casualty as much as they can cos family always comes first, survival is everything

Close enough?

 

[Papa]

Left : Stark

Pretty much care about everything, principal honor code, nobility, loyalty, sensitive, easily offended, anything dishonorable like cheating, scheming, conspiracy, litlefingering, backstabbing is a shame..rather lose a war than win like this

Right : Lannister

Wana to get everything right, is all about pride, glory, victory, end results, don't really care about code, honor, loyalty, winning is everything just wana get their shit done in any posible way and minimize casualty as much as they can cos family always comes first, survival is everything

Close enough?

Rubbish comparison, but I can tell you’re completely new to politics so it’s forgivable.

 

[Yoshi]

Nah, I'd rather you explain the hive-mind accusations.

Bias is something else entirely, though I'd still disagree that it has a right-leaning bias. As Kadayi pointed out, most are Libertarian Left.

Look at the politics subforum and what thread exist in there, in many many cases with leading headlines. It is dominated by right leaning talking points, with a special focus on calling out some fringe idiots from the social justice movement (or who are just minorities typically protected by the social justice movement). If you look into the threads, you will also see that these views are extremely dominant in the expressed views inside the threads. The usage of socialism / marxism as an expletive rather than a disrcriptory term and crazy threads such as the "was Hitler a socialist" one having a vocal majority agree to this is crass. I mean, many here are citing the political compass. What did Evilore show us where Hitler landed on that?

So an authoritarian neo-liberal leaning person is called socialist (which would be completely to the left of that chart), what does this tell us about the leanings of someone saying that?

As you are well aware, right leaning of what GAF used to be is still very much left leaning. Why keep pushing such a silly statement that you know is false? What do you get out of it?

Also who is getting bullied? All I see are playful jabs and ignorant claims getting refuted with facts and logic by others.

I am of the opinion it is a correct statement, I have no desire to push something I know is wrong.

Nobody_important is getting bullied. Hard.

Some folks just don't bother spending hours of their day browsing through politicial discussions. For example, I only find myself at the politics section if certain people make me go there, because they have seen things I would not believe.

Of course I am only talking about the people who talk about politics. Often, Resetera is cited as an example of an extremely left-leaning forum, but we have no information on the leanings of the majority of users, only of the people posting in political topics and the moderation. Of course I am not talking about what leanings people here might have who never post about politics, this is largely irrelevant.

Nobody_Important gets treated the way he gets treated because maybe he is also at fault for this?

I don't really understand why you are breaking a lance for him - Similar to how you felt it needed to be the spokesperson of KevinKeene. Why play this character that questions things from the sidelines, just enough so it puts the attention on you? I am talking about your global posting here, not just this entity.

I think that Nobody_important is treated unfairly and that he isn't at fault for that. It has nothing to do with KevinKeene, even if you seem to get a hard on to harp on that one.

Nobody_Important is far-left so often the left such as myself also tend to disagree with him.

There is a difference beteween disagreement and ad hominem attacks which are being used against Nobody_important all the time.

Then again, many of the internets far left don't think they are far left... Just left of center. So they assume anyone who isn't anti 2nd amendment (for example) is instantly considered right wingers.

As I said many times, I certainly do qualify as far left (and very liberatarian as well, per the terminology of the political compass) and I do think that being supportive of firearms in civilian hands is a right-leaning position, but one issue (if it is not a broad oone like "fiscal policies") does not define a political leaning. Still, the majority opinion in terms of gun ownership here is a very right leaning one, yes.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Look at the politics subforum and what thread exist in there, in many many cases with leading headlines. It is dominated by right leaning talking points, with a special focus on calling out some fringe idiots from the social justice movement (or who are just minorities typically protected by the social justice movement). If you look into the threads, you will also see that these views are extremely dominant in the expressed views inside the threads. The usage of socialism / marxism as an expletive rather than a disrcriptory term and crazy threads such as the "was Hitler a socialist" one having a vocal majority agree to this is crass. I mean, many here are citing the political compass. What did Evilore show us where Hitler landed on that?

So an authoritarian neo-liberal leaning person is called socialist (which would be completely to the left of that chart), what does this tell us about the leanings of someone saying that?

Still not seeing anything about an echo-chamber in your post. Seems like you are using words as an expletive rather than a description.

How would you define echo chamber, and why do you think GAF fits that definition?

 

[Kadayi]

Yoshi

Honesty Nobody Important can defend himself. No need for you to rush to his defence. Political discussion always has a degree of frisson.

 

[Yoshi]

Still not seeing anything about an echo-chamber in your post. Seems like you are using words as an expletive rather than a description.

How would you define echo chamber, and why do you think GAF fits that definition?

An echo chamber is a community of people of very similar views that share these views with each other in a prominent way, advertising and intensifying that viewpoint by selective and pointed sharing of news and information, while behaving exclusive and unfriendly towards people sharing a differing view. By reducing opposing positions to carricatures of said positions they elevate their own position as the only reasonable or justifiable position.

Yoshi

Honesty Nobody Important can defend himself. No need for you to rush to his defence. Political discussion always has a degree of frisson.

This is no defense, I think Nobody_Important has a thick skin, but I find it very unpleasent how he is treated in many cases.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

An echo chamber is a community of people of very similar views that share these views with each other in a prominent way, advertising and intensifying that viewpoint by selective and pointed sharing of news and information, while behaving exclusive and unfriendly towards people sharing a differing view. By reducing opposing positions to carricatures of said positions they elevate their own position as the only reasonable or justifiable position.

Okay, well I disagree with that definition and I disagree that it applies to GAF.

GAF is not a community of people of very similar views. Go hop into a thread about upcoming Xbox game-streaming features and you'll see the salt flow like a river.

We do share these views with one another, but in nearly every case there are contrarians who jump in to offer a counterpoint. You do this. I do this. The fact that we can both do this is another strike against your accusation that this is an "echo chamber", because no one is excluding others. You seem to have latched on to the "unfriendly toward people sharing a different view", which really isn't a necessary characteristic of an echo chamber at all. Echo chambers can be blissful in their ignorance and perfectly friendly to outsiders.

"By reducing opposing positions to caricatures", you mean like CNN and MSNBC just did with Kanye West? They're an echo chamber too, I guess, by your definition. A cynical method of argument (reducing positions to a caricature) is not the best way to debate but this also is not an exclusive characteristic of echo chambers.

I'll borrow from Wikipedia's definition because I think it helps here (not that Wikipedia is the letter of the law or anything):

people are able to seek out information which reinforces their existing views, potentially as an unconscious exercise of confirmation bias. This may increase political and social polarization and extremism

On GAF, confirmation bias is actively fought against. You saw it in the Kavanaugh thread when the Avenatti accusations were coming out and some posters said "this isn't even confirmed. You're choosing to believe it based on nothing" and look! It was based on nothing. Sorry if that makes people think GAF is right-leaning but to me that's just basic logic and skepticism. That is not evidence of an echo chamber.

Also, I am seeing a DECREASE of political and social polarization and extremism on GAF. Sure, we have some very loudmouthed posters, but I've been able to find a ton of members with differing political views -- yourself included -- where I can have a reasonable back and forth without getting shouted down by a mob or a mod. We disagree in a thread about Xbox but we find agreement in a thread about a politician's bad behavior. We agree on tax reform but we disagree about privacy and censorship. We agree on global warming but disagree on how we should respond.

This is human.

I am someone who can find agreement on issues, even if you hold other beliefs I disagree with. This used to be a pretty standard American/Western ideal. I am in no way special for believing this, and yet it seems like some kind of enlightened Gospel in this age of tribalism and willful ignorance. Find commonground and build from there. An echochamber cannot do that. They cannot find common ground with opposing viewpoints nor let them speak.

The fact that you and I are disagreeing and having this conversation is probably the most obvious rebuttal of your accusation.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

An echo chamber is a community of people of very similar views that share these views with each other in a prominent way, advertising and intensifying that viewpoint by selective and pointed sharing of news and information, while behaving exclusive and unfriendly towards people sharing a differing view. By reducing opposing positions to carricatures of said positions they elevate their own position as the only reasonable or justifiable position.

Objectively speaking, some positions are the only reasonable or justifiable position. Freedom of speech only has one reasonable and justifiable position. Equality of opportunity is also the only reasonable and justifiable position on civil rights. That being said I think many of us who you would call right wing disagree greatly on many fundamental economic, political and social issues, and we do go at it. It is just that those threads never seem to see much activity from the far left, as their focus is single minded on one issue and one issue alone, tribal social justice politics. I don't see an echo chamber here, like you say. But reasonable people can discuss things fairly without being unkind to one another.

Nothing_Important is usually reasonable, just partisan. Calling him out for being partisan isn't being unfriendly.

 

[Redneckerz]

I think that Nobody_important is treated unfairly and that he isn't at fault for that

I don't believe that. Where there is yes, an occassion where nuance is presented by his ire, it often is also defending politics regarding ERA that make little to know sense with the Banbot in place as to backtrack the context in which something was said.

Again - You don't have to be his spokesperson.

You didnt answer my question, by the way.

It has nothing to do with KevinKeene, even if you seem to get a hard on to harp on that one.

I'm harping on that because you had a similar rather curious advocacy when he got axed. A similar behavior i see repeated with your advocacy for Nobody_Important. He can be his own defence, you know.

You pertain to wanting to know more but at the same time you aren't that interested in wanting to know more in general. Which is an odd position to put yourself in. So again: Why play this character that questions things from the sidelines, just enough so it puts the attention on you?

This is no defense, I think Nobody_Important has a thick skin, but I find it very unpleasent how he is treated in many cases.

Please read back your previous posts and ask yourself if you aren't actively defending his cause. Spoiler: You do. Don't act coy to obvious observations.

For the rest The Bandit ( Cybrwzrd ) seems to be putting it out there better than i ever could.

 

[Acerac]

ResetEra is run like a cult. Full stop.

It's legitimately terrifying how so many friends have turned their backs on me and believe that I'm a goddamned monster ever since I got banned.

 

[TrainedRage]

I wonder if trolling bait guy will ever post here again? I would love to hear his thoughts on politics and why he is so sure this place is dying.

 

[Kadayi]

An echo chamber is a community of people of very similar views that share these views with each other in a prominent way, advertising and intensifying that viewpoint by selective and pointed sharing of news and information, while behaving exclusive and unfriendly towards people sharing a differing view. By reducing opposing positions to caricatures of said positions they elevate their own position as the only reasonable or justifiable position.

To quote Douglas Adams -

“All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”

As pointed out earlier, NEWGAF isn't a hotbed of alt-right neo-nazis (as you seem to believe) but is instead more libertarian left-leaning, and rational in terms of how people look at and assess matters. I dare say given you've one foot in Reset that's perhaps lost on you as a concept.

This is no defense, I think Nobody_Important has a thick skin, but I find it very unpleasant how he is treated in many cases.

NI has already indicated elsewhere that he's unwilling to embrace a growth mindset, but would rather carry on his half-man crusade of feelings over facts no matter how badly he gets wrecked on the Iceberg of reason. It seems like a bizarre choice to me being a rationalist, but that is his prerogative. If you feel he's being unfairly maligned I suggest you make use of the report post function versus derailing threads about it with your pearl-clutching attempts at tone policing.

 

[saltyramen]

I got banned for talking about how Asian males are typically seen in the dating world as unconfident and unassertive. I'm an Asian male myself. If you take a step out into the real world and actually talk to women, you will hear the same shit echoed. Now mind you, this isn't me saying ALL Asian men are like this, but how they're generally viewed in the dating world and why on almost every dating site Asian men are the least desirable.

I don't understand how there's no nuance with them. And a billion posts replying how what I said is disgusting? I don't get it lol.

Also, what even makes people want to be like this? Is it just self-serving to feel like your moral compass is in tact or what? I truly don't understand why you can't even have a civil discussion about anything without getting banned. It's literally their way or the highway and their way is always correct lol. It's really actually some lunacy.

Actually the only thing that keeps me from thinking I'm not insane is the real world doesn't fit their ideal utopia and silly fantasies

 

[Musky_Cheese]

I got banned for talking about how Asian males are typically seen in the dating world as unconfident and unassertive. I'm an Asian male myself. If you take a step out into the real world and actually talk to women, you will hear the same shit echoed. Now mind you, this isn't me saying ALL Asian men are like this, but how they're generally viewed in the dating world and why on almost every dating site Asian men are the least desirable.

I don't understand how there's no nuance with them. And a billion posts replying how what I said is disgusting? I don't get it lol.

Also, what even makes people want to be like this? Is it just self-serving to feel like your moral compass is in tact or what? I truly don't understand why you can't even have a civil discussion about anything without getting banned. It's literally their way or the highway and their way is always correct lol. It's really actually some lunacy.

Don’t be salty. You know now at least. Welcome back. Stay awhile

 

[Golgo 13]

What is worse, is they are now allowing rhetoric against Whites...

A user posted...fuck all white people (no permaban) then another posted telling white people if they had a problem with that statement then to fuck off to Neogaf... all left alone by mods

That’s beyond fucked up :/

 

[saltyramen]

No cap, there are people in that same thread I got banned in taking offense to when people say “half asian babies are so cute” HAHAHAHA. What the actual FUCK bro. “Saying stuff like that is dangerous so me and my wife have talks about the dangers of having one”

Are you fucking. kidding. me.

 

[Airbus Jr]

No cap, there are people in that same thread I got banned in taking offense to when people say “half asian babies are so cute” HAHAHAHA. What the actual FUCK bro. “Saying stuff like that is dangerous so me and my wife have talks about the dangers of having one”

Are you fucking. kidding. me.

People are getting banned there for saying half Asian babies are so cute? Seriously?

Is there any particular reason for them to do that?

Wtf is wrong with these snowflake?

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

Are the so called far left actually far left? I'm not sure, they seem to be defined by a loss of objectivity, which has nothing to do with being farther to the left.

 

[chaos789]

A lot of ERA’s comments and judgements seem to come from ego. It’s easier to pass judgement online than it is to go out in the real world and actively fight for positive change.

 

[hariseldon]

There is no plain evidence towards this that I am aware of. It also is something quite natural, if the whole social justice oriented part of the left leaning audience moves towards another platform, then it is a pretty natural thing to happen that a right leaning bias will be observable. And within such a bias, it is also common place (and observable here) that people with outlier opinions get bullied.

If this place is as right-leaning as you say, and outliers get bullied, then I, as a lefty socialist bleeding-heart type who wants to do whatever can be done to lift the poor up.. I should be getting bullied right, left and centre surely? And yet I'm not. I get to have fantastic discussions with people from entirely different political standpoints and amazingly we find some common ground in areas where we disagree, and we find out a bit about why each of us got to the conclusions that we got to, and quite often our goals are pretty similar, we just disagree on methodology. Try engaging in conversation, give a little, take a little, and see where it gets you.

 

[hariseldon]

Also as a former Neo Nazi skinhead, who left that life 23-24 years ago, I can without a doubt tell you, no one here is a Nazi. As much as I detest Donald Trump and his policies, supporting them does not make you a Nazi.

Hope you don't mind me asking, but how did you get into, and then out of, that life? I've never had the chance to talk to someone with that history and honestly it is something that would be enormously educating for me (and probably others) if you could share something about it. Obviously I imagine it's also quite painful to share so feel free to tell me to piss off if you don't want to talk about it.

 

[hariseldon]

Are the so called far left actually far left? I'm not sure, they seem to be defined by a loss of objectivity, which has nothing to do with being farther to the left.

As I have stated previously, the social justice warrior movement is merely a creature wearing the left's skin. We must remove the beast so as to restore the left to its rightful place.

 

[Grinchy]

It's frustrating to see people who actually believe that this site is the same or worse than Resetera when it comes to being some kind of echo chamber.

If I made a thread on Resetera about how I think Ford never proved that Kavanaugh did anything wrong, the only possible outcome would be that the thread was locked and I was permabanned.

If I made a thread here about how I think Kavanaugh definitely did something wrong and Ford got screwed, there are multiple possible outcomes for how it played out and none of them would involve the thread getting locked and me being permabanned.

I don't know how anyone could overlook such a simple difference between the two sites. Resetera has mandatory/allowed opinions that you cannot deviate from. How is this site even remotely comparable to that?

 

[royox]

A lot of ERA’s comments and judgements seem to come from ego. It’s easier to pass judgement online than it is to go out in the real world and actively fight for positive change.

What ego can have people that had to build a forum as a safeplace for themselves?

 

[Scopa]

What ego can have people that had to build a forum as a safeplace for themselves?

The ego of believing they are normal.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's frustrating to see people who actually believe that this site is the same or worse than Resetera when it comes to being some kind of echo chamber.

If I made a thread on Resetera about how I think Ford never proved that Kavanaugh did anything wrong, the only possible outcome would be that the thread was locked and I was permabanned.

If I made a thread here about how I think Kavanaugh definitely did something wrong and Ford got screwed, there are multiple possible outcomes for how it played out and none of them would involve the thread getting locked and me being permabanned.

I don't know how anyone could overlook such a simple difference between the two sites. Resetera has mandatory/allowed opinions that you cannot deviate from. How is this site even remotely comparable to that?

Short answer. It is not. People are talking shit, and it is ironic that it is coming from those who claim to be banned on ReeEra on top of it.

Oh sweet irony.